We are starting a new series which should be tickling your brains. The All Familiar Crossword Puzzle. This puzzle is put in with the view that you understand the working of the cult we commonly call as The Pentecostal Mission. The words used for the puzzle are common usage in TPM circles. Please send in your answers as comments with appropriate ACROSS and DOWN numbers just as is shown in the diagram.
For convenience, please take a printout and fill in the puzzle.
Down;
1. Goes to Zion after sex with many people
Answer; Worker
2. Drinking fruit juices and milk shakes
Answer; Fasting
3. Cause of death for not treating illness
Answer; Divine Healing
5. State of material shortage
Answer; bondage
6. Tpm bunglow for saints
Answer; faith home
8. Leaving tpm and going to different church
Answer; backsliding
9. Period when brain is completely washed
Answer,: training period
10. Name of the meeting which completely violates 1 Corinth 14
Answer: tarrying meeting
Across:
4. Vain repetition of praise
Answer : RPD
7. Happens after affair is known to others
Answer: Transfer
9. Twisting old testament law to make money
Answer: tithe
11. Term used to elevate oneself over believers
Answer; Consecration
12. Getting due reproach of an affair
Answer; suffering
This puzzle,in a nutshell helps the new comers who decided to evict the bastion of their erstwhile TPM kingdom and the fence sitters too to get themselves liberated completely.
A novel way indeed to UNLEARN these evil practices of this CULT that bent upon to poisoning the minds of the gullible people.
Another best way of teaching the meanings of the terms of reference of these 13 point agenda as raised in ACROSS & DOWN( though 12 answers right ….but 13 answers in reality …Number 9 is figuring in both ACROSS& DOWN)
KUDOS to the designer/s of this excellent C W Puzzle.
The answers are below.
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@admin & his idle fans
How jobless and unproductive are you?
@ I am another TPM Lunatic….oops Fanatic
The Admin has been posting articles years before lockdown…but it’s your TPM Whited Sepulchres (Workers) who are jobless now…lol
Your White clads were busy prior to lockdown…with meetings, fastings, feastings, conventions, worker’s meetings, building constructions, transfers, visitings and zipping past in white coloured sumos and Ambassadors.
But now all that is frozen.
Your Whited Sepulchres would be now busy gossiping with their inmates and others through phone.
So dear Lunatic….oops Fanatic… please explore ways to keep your Whited Sepulchres busy otherwise…after this lockdown the Admin may become BUSY publishing the lockdown sexapades ..sorry.. escapades…..of your Whited Sepulchres.
@Liberated:
//after this lockdown the Admin may become BUSY publishing the lockdown sexapades ..sorry.. escapades…..of your Whited Sepulchres.//
Don’t be sorry, you are right. Even when they were busy with their “meetings, fastings, feastings, conventions, worker’s meetings, building constructions, transfers, visitings and zipping past in white coloured sumos and Ambassadors”, they could still find the time for illicit sex.
Now that they are “jobless and unproductive” due to the lockdown, how much more time they have for these sinful deeds. Yea, for sure these wolves are going to be exposed for their lockdown sexapades…sooner or later.
Apostle Paul writes to Timothy that “forbidding people to marry is a doctrine of the demons” (1 Timothy 4:1-3). What else can you expect from a church that preaches and practices such a demonic doctrine? Only sexual perversion and illicit sex are the fruits of such demonic doctrine.
No wonder this church brings forth only Lunatics….oops Fanatics.
@I am another TPM Fanatic
This corona pandemic in addition to exposing the powerlessness of your TPM god, has also done your TPM a favor, you and leaders have nothing to do in the current climate, they have lots of time at their disposal as they have…
no money to count,
no forex to change
no heads to lay hands on,
no conventions to travel to,
no patients to heal,
no new youth to sacrifice,
no children to molest,
no new doctrines to teach,
no places to visit,
no poor laity to feed
no families to destroy,
no marriages to break
no weddings to curse
no naive laity to prey on
no children to abuse
no youth meetings to brainwash
no tarrying meetings to disturb the neighbours
no bible studies to allegorise
no hands to grease
no incentive to buy new vehicles
no money to buy land
no funds to renovate
no medical colleges to dedicate
no pharmacies to bless
no new businesses to bless
no dead bodies to discriminate
no weddings to broker
and the list can go on and on…
There 420+ articles on this site. Since you and your dear TPM leaders have plenty of free time, please do yourself a favor by reading them yourself. If it is too heavy for your feeble mind, take prints of each article and put in a folder and present it to your chief pastors. They can read them and hopefully realize that the god they are serving is not from the Bible but from the pits of hell. It originated in the devious mind of a pervert named Alwin which is now being unashamedly propagated by your beloved chief Empty Thomas.
Who knows, The God of the Bible might have mercy on them and open their eyes and save them from the TPM delusion they are in. And hopefully in the process you will also be saved. May God have mercy on you.
But it seems they are not short of planning. Read the following text that was forwarded to me.
Joshua is asking the believers to come to church to give tithes so that he can buy a new pulpit and side table for $4000 dollars.
While everyone is struggling in their work, and facing a crisis, he is thinking of interesting ways to waste money unnecessarily.
The old pulpit and side table was good enough but Joshua is hoping that by all his “good works” the believers will forget about his misadventures in medan.
He’s hopeful that when he is given back his position in December, he can have a new side table and pulpit to preach with.
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Our saints never ask money to our beliver. They only make their request known to believer to pray for what their heart wanting.
One day our center pastor wanted new white phone. He having five lakh rupees in his shelf. But he not waste that money for worldly phone. He only told believer to pray to God, for five minutes daily , so that God should give him phone. Suddenly next week, one believer took pastor to sony showroom and ask pastor which phone he love to have. Our pastor put finger on one phone. Then believer gift that phone to pastor. Next Sunday, pastor ask believer to pray for good earphone.. Like that from faith to faith our saints marching.
That believer who give mobile to pastor, he become favourite believer of pastor. Whenever he come to faithhome, mother come running out to greet him with wide wide smile. She eagerly waiting for him to give some donation in her hand before he depart..
@Admin, is this picture of the new altar in Singapore’s tpm hq? appearance of it looks like nothing short of a catholic church altar, obviously though, thanks to our catechist, Paul Ramankutty’s orthodox background & Alwin’s copy of catholic church’s celibate doctrines, the altar had come in handy liken to a replica of the catholic church setup in a pentecostal cover up.
What is wrong with this pulpit? When there are so many poor churches in the world that lack basic amenities, is it not pride, arrogance, and callousness of TPM’s clergy that they make such demands?
When they exhibit such insensitivity during these hard economic times, it speaks volumes on the sacrificial ministry these guys claim to do! But people like “I am TPM Fanatic from Singapore” cannot comprehend the depth of this deception as their thinking is clouded from years of systematic indoctrination.
Feel sorry for the believers of TPM Singapore. It looks like these TPM addicts cannot survive without their weekly dose. TPM Drug lords like Joshua the playboy just take advantage of their addiction and he knows very well that these stupid people are just puppets who will dance to his tune as long as he is pulling the right strings.
The Chief pastors of TPM should be ashamed of themselves for their inability to touch this evil man despite all the evidence.
This is with regards to the point “NO FUNDS TO RENOVATE“. Look at this pic sent by one TPM believer showing how they have demolished the wall and is raising up higher walls during the COVID season. This is the Faith Home in Pallipad where the minister is One Jaison who is also a convention preacher.
Especially consider the height of the pillars…so huge it is.
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Looks like they are building a compound wall for a prison. The Gospel is all about proclaiming liberty to the captives and freedom to the prisoners (Isaiah 61:1). But TPM does the opposite. These harsh and exacting legalists love to see people bound and imprisoned with their man-made rules and regulations. No wonder they need a prison-like compound wall.
Looking like a royal palace in making
@ I am another tpm fanatic
Yes brother. You right. Very right. These people no job. They do no job all day. They give job to people. They businessmen. That why they have time to writing so many articles.
But they not know, that our saints also owner of multi billion dollar tithe factory. Our saints also no job. They into full time religion business. That why our saints habit of eating food on bed like lazy fellow. That why big belly of our saints. Tea food snack all coming to bed .
One day I going to measure average size of belly of all Ammachi and Appachen. I put reliance jio augmented reality glass and ask it to measure belly of our saints in inches. Then I give average size of tpm Ammachi Appachen and all our saints fat stomach.
Talking about belly measure, I remember a worker brother (he is no more now) who served in one of the branches of the Coimbatore center in the late ’90s. He was so obese, he used to stitch three lungis together to wear. I was used to seeing two lungis stitched together to fit some of the bulky saints, but this was a record!
//I put reliance jio augmented reality glass and ask it to measure belly of our saints in inches.//
But beware, your device’s operating system could crash unable to scale such an enormous dimension. You could perhaps change the unit to feet or yards instead of inches to safeguard your device.
TPM clergy has two gods…
The first one is MAMMON…the more you give the more you are respected.
The second one is BELLY
Philp:3:19
Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things
That’s why when the Whited Sepulchres come for visiting they expect good money and good food !
SO NO WONDER THAT ELINA GOES ON A MEASURING SPREE
A.W.TOZER,while writing on christian leadership,(Rut, Rot or Revival:The Condition of the Church, pages 165-167) lamented the latest techniques being adopted by various denominations giving more importance to having more adherents,more members,more numbers rather than holding fast to the sound doctrinal truths.
Brother Liberated has rightly brought it to the fore by mentioning these two gods–Mammon and Belly
Its particularly noteworthy that TPM invoke these two gods,so blatantly that they literally beg for alms (that one gets a feeling) when one hears the invitation to the congregation to come in cue for the prayer after the Sunday message was over.This practice was being followed in their local conventions too. Now to their misfortune COVID 19 has come timely and applied brakes to this practice.In Fact the scene was so pathetic to see in Malaysia and Singapore conventions also.
Tozer writes a prayer item while concluding a portion in his writing:.
” Lord. The emphasis today is on growth, bigness, size, and success. God help me never to modify or compromise to achieve that, but to tenaciously hold fast to my core beliefs and priorities. Amen.”
“Hold fast the pattern of sound words which you have heard from me, in faith and love which are in Christ Jesus. That good thing which was committed to you, keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us.—2 Timothy 1:13,14
Its the high time that TPM should stop invoking those gods,and come back to the Lord with a heart of repentance and reverence.
The question is this: Shall we modify the truth in doctrine or practice to gain more adherents? Or shall we preserve the truth in doctrine and practice and take the consequences?…
Hope this CWPuzzle helps Elina to use her good offices to put an end to this begging practice with her F.H.bosses.
“I am crying”
“I love”
“I am the best”
“I am the topmost”
This”I”factor only brought the down fall for the prince of the world as told in Isaiah14:13,14
Because we love her,my prayers go for Elina,that she should not meet the same fate of that prince in the joy of becoming an Apostle which was quite strange.The god of TPM would never confer any such title to her gender.Even in VOP magazine one could never read such “entered glory”news for such gender.It was reserved only for one gender.Definitely not to her.
However Elina, if you are blessed with any further vision from your god,please do share with us. We will rejoice with you.
Hello All tpm believers,
Today our god speak to me. He said ” Elina my child, you are Apostle paul of this era.” I crying with tears of joy. So wonderful god we have in our tpm church. He know very well our hearts desire to sit in top top reputed seats in synagogue. He know our saints get thrilled when they are called apostles. That why he equate me with Apostle Paul. That why I love our tpm god. He only intrested to give me all best best things. I am the best. I am the topmost.
Regards
Elina
@Elina
Thats great. Go and die with your pride along with your admin.
Thats the best thing you can do for your god.
Hello tpmfanatic
@ go and die….
That cursing brother. You telling me to die is curse. That not our saints teach to curse our enemy. Our tpm teach us to love our enemies.
Many worker sister have enemy worker sister. Many politic game happening in our tpm ministry level. But no one curse any other saint. All saint love each other. That you need to learn. That charchters our tpm believer daily develop by growing in Christ experience. Why you ashaming Tpm by such behaviour in enemy website? What they think about our true nature of cursing and not forgiving…. ?
Don’t show that spirit to these people. Kindly learn to hide such feeling in faith home walls. Such news should not come out. Ok??
@Iam a proud TPM fanatic…
Its ok if you don’t read any article on this website, but I encourage you to read this nice little story which should suit your simple mind…
https://www.stas-afke.com/blog/2019/12/15/the-imposter-donkey/
Maybe you can recognize someone you know there.
BTW Your comment is not only detestable but also demonstrates the kind of fruit you are bearing and which in turn shows whose child you are.
Hello “Tpm fanatic” you are caught in this forum. First read atleast 10 articles in this forum. Since you are a “TPM fanactic” I think you are short of eye power. Check with eye doctor first. I am sorry, you will die with blindness but not go to a good doctor to recover your eye problem. What shall i do. I am not able to tolerate you saying a word about the admin of this website. First do what i say. I repeat go thru the 10 articles in this forum. then start the comment session. If you blindly do comment on the admin of this forum. I challenge that cpm will kill you pathetically. You will die in shame. Better repent and be a human being first. Do you think we are jobless. First we are lifeless because of CPM church. I want one question to you. I am able to understand that you are from brianless cpm. Do you think that you are working very hard to earn money. The rice that you eat in this land (If In India) It is a mere Begging. Remember that. Don’t pose that you are a superior human being. The job that you do in CPM is a mere Begging” and you are a beggar. Be like a beggar. This forum is for gentle men and women. Not for beggars like you. Eating rice in this land is a big crime you are doing. Try to earn Rs. 1/- in a day and eat that food. You will release the pain. You have no rights to speak about “Jobs and Jobless”. Because you are a beggar. Your food is a begging bowl. that was given by so many.
I think “Extortion” is the profession these charlatans practise. Begging requires an element of humility and you will rarely find that quality in a TPM worker who is destined for Zion.
These consecrated crooks earn their bread by extortion in the Name of Christ.
Hey John you are just a joke..
It is very clear that you are jealous of the money in TPM.
Thats why you call as beggars.. silly fellow..!!!
Hello kid, i need not have to run..
It is you guys who have run from this church..
Ran like jonah from the will of God..
Hay “TPM Fanatic” I thought you are a blind, dumb, deaf, now I say you are a “FRAUD”. Some sort of criminal in CPM. I am not jealous of money in TPM. Since it is a beggar configuration. I need not like that also. I have not run from the CPM church. I dont like the CPM church after seeing the worst people like you.Once again you are some sort of criminal in white dress. Its our hard earned money that cpm eats. You are just a sample of CPM product. Any how lets wait till 2065.
Oh its your money..! Why you gave? Who forced you?
Its you who gave and now crying that they are beggars.
You are the fraud hypocrite. (your words conclude that)
That is why you are a joke, John…
@Iam a TPM Fanatic
When was the last time you worked and earned a honest dollar. You are just a hired hand, a wolf in sheep’s clothing, using the Name of God to fill your belly. You will not run from TPM because where can you go? what can you do?
The day you bent your head to TPM’s Chief pastors and that anointing came down from TPM’s zion, you sold your soul to Satan. You are a slave to Satan and I doubt you will repent because you love serving TPM’s god more than the God of the Bible.
But fortunately for you The God of the Bible is merciful and he will welcome you as His child if only you could repent. Can you?
Hay “I am a TPM Fanactic” you ran away from this forum. Where are you?. Afraid of evideneces provided in this forum. Not able to see the face of your pastors and sisters in CPM. I think you are feeling shame and ran away from this forum. None of CPM pastors are not able to type even one word in this forum. You know the reason its because of “Guilty”. They all were caught. Unable to run the business. CPM cant run the business hereafter. Cant run the business means till 2065 cant run. Understand. The admin of this website saved so many lives. Opened the eyes of englightment. He is going to be the blessed in this world. For his good work. Hay “I am TPM Fanatic” i thought you are a blind beggar. Now you are a deaf beggar. Tommorow i will follow you. I think you will become DUMB .
John
To say that “the admin of this website saved so many lives” sounds like blasphemy to me.
I believe Jesus Christ is the truth, the way and the life.
Am I wrong?
You claimed in an earlier comment that “This forum is for gentle men and women”.
I sense no gentleness in your language.
She is not wrong in her “perspective”. Being part of a dishonest organization that prides itself as the best, she has every reason to think others are worse. That is a FACT.
These ”EXTORTIONERS” are currently facing an immense problem from COVID 19,that had a telling effect on its vast magazine ministry net work of the BEAST’s S.E. Asian regional operations.
There were no issues from the EXTORTIONERS of S.E Asian region for the last six moths
Somebody can correct me if my statement was wrong.They can share me what was the last issue they read the following two mouth pieces .
1.The Pentecostal Messenger(the problem became acute particularly after late Bro.Bernard Singham who used to shoulder the heavy responsibility of this mouth piece,and after him right now there are no takers either to print or publishing of this mouth piece).I am hopeful someone from this region shall throw some light on this)
2.The Youth Herald ( severely mauled by the current Joshua problem).
3. However VOP is putting a brave face inspite of COVID 19’s hard blows.(AUG issue not gone out even by the very hour of this message)
There is no doubt that Voice of Pentecost is showing a brave face in India by printing the lifeless/unedited TESTIMONIES in its columns to hoodwink the public,but sadly its days are numbered.it will shortly follow suit the same fate of its S.E Asian mouth pieces. Already August issue was overdue ,but the postman has yet to deliver the August issue in INDIA.In a couple of days from now if the delivery does n’t happen COVID 19 gets the full marks for its heavy toll on this mouth piece too.
It seems they are stuck with Covid-19 and is giving bribes to the authorities to stop their establishment in IBR from being converted to a Covid Treatment centre. So the Chief knows its draining their funds and he has requested for prayers. Their business has gone for a toss.
Check the attachment (Somebody forwarded to me) in which he is lamenting that their traditions have got screwed up. Maybe the greedy fellow is rethinking of getting into internet ministries because his traditional model has been completely demolished.
But then what about the revelations and patterns their saints of yesteryears preached against the internet. Clearly these are opportunist Wolves in sheep’s clothing.
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I will not be surprised if these crooks will be fasting and praying for a vaccine.
Hey admin & NMSTF!!
you guys know nothing about whats going on in IBR HQS.
you blabber what your informers and gossipmongers say. And sadly nowadays they ae not rattling anything bcoz of lockdown. Is that why you are idle?
Then why jabber dumb things like traditions, vaccine, bribe, internet etc. without having any good knowledge about the happenings…
@Another TPM Fanatic,
Yes Sir, I know TPM’s chief parasites and their fellow parasites are on their deplorable celibate knees begging the god of TPM to save them from the pandemic.
It looks like TPM’s business model is under stress just like any Corporate entity. Since revenue has dried up, you must be thinking how to reduce headcount, sadly all your employees are permanent for life, so you cannot send them home. Maybe you should terminate some aged and the sick ones permanently, you guys have mastered that art in the name of divine healing, so it should be very easy.
Or maybe you should rent out your sheds to the government so that they can convert them to quarantine centres and you can earn some money legitimately. You quarantined your believers from the Truth and now you are facing The Truth and your chief pastors have become toothless just like your TPM god. All your unknown tongues are just empty noise which has no power in the face of The God of the Bible.
No annual collections.. oops conventions. Why don’t you embrace technology just like many other false churches in this world and start collecting money online. Maybe you are scared because you have never handled white money.
May God have mercy on you and your leaders and your believers and it is not too late for you to repent. May the god of TPM continue to bless you.
Singapore church is going through a spiritual crisis. While the situation is getting worst and there is no peace in the believers family. Inspite of all this CP AM is not at all bothered about the spiritual welfare of the believers and the workers. Instead he is warning all the believers to give the tieths in time by cash and not to transfer into church account or to send to other poor churches and not to help any poor believers during the difficult times. From this we can understand how the spirit of coverteousness is ruling him. If he is truly guided by the spirit of the lord will he be doing all this nonsence?
I beg you all to please pray for the church and especially for the leaders. If the shepard is not taking care of the sheep they will be left to the wolves.
This seems to be a remake of Ezekiel 34
Hi all…
Patric bro, Singapore SOG become worse than before. SOG not enquireing believers well being, how are they and so on…
Joshua is enjoying inside the faith home and outside visiting his GF. How he is going to live without visiting his GF’s?
Other side one of the branch north side closed. No money to pay rent for the hall and head quarters don’t want to help. HQ having in the bank 1.5 to 2Million dollar.
This is cry from north side branch SOG showing to believers.
HQ like to keep the money for renovations for wall, buying podium for Joshua and so onnn…..
Ezekiel 34 …. This is the state of SOG in Singapore, enjoying feast every day.
What else we are going to see ????
Joshua as usual he is doing hiddenly. For public he was Demoted… that is not true. Weak up believers.. pray fervently. God Must do something.
Rg
Anonymous
Fully agree with Admin bro that its Ez 34 in the making.
Brother Patrick, there is no peace in your belivers families as you all had idolised your TPM Shepherds and forgot the Shepherd who laid his life for you all.
Did you forget John 10:11-15, I am the good shepherd : the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
If you all are indeed guided by the Holy Spirit, you will know which Shepherd to follow. This choice is left to sheep to decide.
One of my best friend told me that Joshua Thiyagarajan is going to Boon Keng to meet his GF. But he told Past. Wee Wong that he is going to the shop. He has not changed at all. What is happening? It seems that the CP has allowed him to go and meet his Chinese GF.
Interesting, the chameleon is changing its colours to survive. Once the vaccine is out, the Chief pastors of TPM will be first in the queue to get their shots so that they can start travelling to their annual collections. They must be suffering from withdrawal symptoms as they cannot collect money now.
What a bunch of conmen, these bunch of parasites are.
It would be just a matter of time when they will request their stupid believers to do Bank transfers. Very soon one of their favourite Traditions…black money would be a thing of the past.
For Abraham and followers of Zion, its all about being selfish, getting the land healed, get sanctified, participate in revival (may be he is referring to tarrying meetings) and rapture. Thats interesting to know that Abraham Pastor thinks rapture is like a meeting where you choose to participate or not.
The perishing souls and community is not in the equation at all.
Pastor Abraham ” What have you done in the past to ensure the laity dont assemble for personnel needs or as routine. What have done to inspire people into loving Jesus. Have you not conducted so many meetings only as routine and to meet personnel needs.
Have not your colleagues preached that when you sanctify with fire, you will be blessed with earthly and heavenly blessings. Have you not called for healing and deliverance meetings expecting huge turnouts and collections.
Does not your deputy continue to spread Spirit of Whoredom and error and another Gospel.
Just like how we do deep cleaning after a post COVID patient case, Please do a deep cleaning amongst your Ministers first.
This COVID has been a blessed launch pad for the remnants to come out from traditional institutions and fellow ship as Christ commanded.
HELLO ADMIN!
I AM A CHRISTIAN BY BIRTH. I AM INVOLVED WITH THIS CHURCH FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS. WE GOT INTO THIS CHURCH AFTER BEING CONFIRMED BY THE HOLY GHOST.
I CHALLENGE YOU FOR A LIVE DEBATE. I HAVE READ MANY ARTICLES HERE, YOU HAVE GONE WRONG IN SOME CONCEPTS WHICH I LIKE TO DETAIL. AND THE SADDEST PART IS THAT YOU ARE POSTING THE ERRORS AND MANY BELIEVE IT.
I DOUBT THE FAIRNESS OF THE DEBATE IF WE DO IT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN EDIT ANYTHING I POST. SO LETS HAVE IT DIRECTLY.
SO WHERE DO YOU LIVE? It’s QUITE OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE A MALAYALI AND YOU DONT KNOW TO TYPE TAMIL BUT YOU ARE QUITE WELL VERSED IN ENGLISH. AND MANY OF YOUR CONTRIBUTORS ARE FROM KERALA, BANGALORE, CHENNAI ETC. WELL, THATS NOT THE POINT OF DISCUSSION.
SO IF YOU ARE IN KERALA, THEN I AM COMING THERE IN SEPTEMBER.
BUT IF YOU ARE BACK HERE IN US/CANADA, I LIVE HERE NEARBY. WE CAN HAVE IT.
TO CONTACT ME, EMAIL ME AT “–EMAIL ID TRUNCATED–”
EXPECTING YOUR REPLY.
DEAR CHRISTIAN BY BIRTH,
If you do not trust this site and expect us to edit your words, you are in the wrong place. You can pick up any of the articles and put your comments and we will respond.
We do not edit out the contents of anybody unless you are using offensive words. PERIOD.
Go ahead if you Choose.
Warm Regards
Admin
@Christian By Birth
Although the admin and I have exchanged brief skirmishes in arguments, I can vouch for the admin’s statement.
From my experience, he/she definitely does not edit any comments.
Appreciate his/her transparency in that respect.
Your suggestion of a debate is pointless.
Neither side is going to accept the other, so it would be a futile effort and may only result in more division and strife.
@KathyJennifer
Finally it looks like TPM has a Deborah to defend its lies. Its no wonder the men in TPM are all celibate.
I admire your challenge but doubt its motive. If you don’t trust the admin to post your comments, please take any article from this website and post your version of the truth on a blog, which you can so easily create. Please publish the link here so that the admin and his friends and your friends can access and in turn comment. In this way you are in total control. All the best.
Dear KJ
It is very clear from your comment that you have not read a single article in fromtpm. You are giving a lame excuse that you don’t trust Admin editing your comment. Utter rubbish.
It seems you are more interested to find admins location.
As a reader, whats wrong in asking who and whereabouts about the admin??
why you guys hide that?
@ I am TPM Fanatic
Asking isn’t wrong. The motive appears wrong. And why don’t you come straight to the point and tell us scripturally that the website is erring.
There is nothing wrong if anyone wants to know the identity or whereabouts of the Admin, and we don’t blame anyone for their prying nature.
After all, human beings are always curious to know every detail of others, even though it will be of no value to them. Insidious prying into peoples’ lives is so prevalent in our society today and many bloggers here are no exception to this.
But by the same token, please understand that there is no law mandating anyone to reveal their identity to the public in a blog or website.
It is Admin’s choice to reveal his identity or remain anonymous, and others can’t fault him for that. Likewise, it is your choice to identify yourself as “I am a TPM Fanatic” and no one blames you for that (though you could have chosen a better Pseudonym).
It should be clear to all that it does not add or subtract to the contents of this website whether Admin or others reveal their identity or not. Hope people will debate on real issues based on the contents of this website instead of diverting the focus to trivial matters.
@Iam a TPM Fanatic,
You are from TPM and you very well know that TPM never publishes the name of the author in any of your publications like the Voice of Pentecost/Pilgrim’s Journal/Joshua’s Conquests/Sunny’s Progress and so on.
You don’t even give the name of the song writers in your Service of Songs. The reason cited by TPM is that the TPM contributors will become famous and swell up with pride and then fall like Lucifer.
TPM always boasted that their ministry is hidden, the actual truth is that you were scared of being exposed for teaching the Gospel of TPM.
So please tell me what is wrong in the admin hiding behind the Cross while teaching the Gospel of Christ to a group of unfortunate victims of TPM’s heresies.
He shuns fame and fortune (note he has not monetised the site by restricting ads) unlike you charlatans who wait for any opportunity to make a quick buck.
BTW, can we have your name and the branch you are serving at so that we can nominate you for the “TPM fanatic of the Month” award.
Your chiefs will also be happy to know that you are accessing the internet and thereby defying their sacred orders but valiantly fighting a losing battle for TPM in this forum.
ABAS / NMSTF
The argument that TPM doctrines, songs and other material are published without attributing authorship is rubbish.
This is not a new thing and it has been from the very beginning.
However, whatever is published or sung is also done in public in front of hundreds and thousands of people.
So, that cannot be qualified as secrecy.
The only people hiding actually are the contributors and commentators of this website.
The accusations that you level are against specific individuals – Alwyn de Alwis, TU Thomas, Abraham Mathew, MT Thomas, etc. with faces, names and addresses.
However, the accusers are anonymous.
Perhaps more than the accused, it is the accusers who are afraid if their “truth” and identities are revealed.
The only reason I can think of why the accusers would continue to hide behind the cloak of online secrecy is because they continue to congregate with TPM in their respective places.
So, in effect admin, Liberated, Redeemed, Franklin, No More Slave to Fear and the rest of this gang are the true wolves in sheeps’ clothing.
If you were truly out of the “cult” as you call it, truly “redeemed”, truly “liberated” and truly “no more slave to fear”, then you would have nothing to hide.
You should be out there basking in the light of the glory of God’s word, proclaiming it from the rooftops.
Forget about face-to-face debates.
It is never going to happen.
Neither side has the courage nor standing to do it.
Dear Vik,
Now that @OpenTruth has revealed that admin’s name is Mathew Jo, why are you still troubled? Please go ahead and address me as Mathew Jo. Everybody has the option to choose an alias name and I have chosen it as admin. For you its the identity of admin which bothers you more than the doctrines which Admin exposes.
@ CATHY JENNIFER
I AM A CHRISTIAN BY BIRTH.
Wow… Christian by BIRTH…. You have preceded the Roman Catholics who belive in Infant Baptism…You accepted Christ at Birth. I am still searching for a verse…can you help with a verse from the Bible that supports your claim of Christian by BIRTH?
I AM INVOLVED WITH THIS CHURCH FOR MORE THAN 30 YEARS.
Please don’t call it (TPM) a CHURCH…its demeaning the BODY OF CHRIST i.e., THE CHURCH.
30 years in TPM… deluded by their false doctrines and hypocrisy. Congratulations.
WE GOT INTO THIS CHURCH AFTER BEING CONFIRMED BY THE HOLY GHOST
Why do you take the name of the Lord in vain? What about the people who follow Christ from other denominations in India and Abroad…. aren’t they not being led by the Holy Spirit ?
Jesus said that the Holy Spirit will lead you to all truth (Jesus) and not to man-made denominations.
Why are many people who were associated for a longer duration than “your 30 years” leaving TPM and saying that God led them out ?
I CHALLENGE YOU FOR A LIVE DEBATE.
First you prove that you have some standing on TPM doctrines and prove your worth… the Admin has been answering all the questions of the site readers whenever they had a query. Many have challenged but fizzed out at the last moment. I am sure you also belong to the same ilk. Remember GOLIATH challenging the ISRAELITES and DAVID. But poor GOLIATH died even before he could do anything. So don’t make hollow sound.
I have been reading the articles of this site and I have seen the Word of God expounded so well…unlike your TPM preachings.
I HAVE READ MANY ARTICLES HERE, YOU HAVE GONE WRONG IN SOME CONCEPTS WHICH I LIKE TO DETAIL. AND THE SADDEST PART IS THAT YOU ARE POSTING THE ERRORS AND MANY BELIEVE IT.
To start with…can you pick one article where the Admin has gone wrong ? Can u please detail it?
However the saddest part is you and your TPM group are following the man made doctrines of Alwin. And you believe that it will win you Zion and New Jerusalem.
I DOUBT THE FAIRNESS OF THE DEBATE IF WE DO IT HERE BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN EDIT ANYTHING I POST. SO LETS HAVE IT DIRECTLY.
The Admin, unlike your TPM bosses, never does such editing work…Check it out with atleast one set of debate and then judge for yourself.
SO WHERE DO YOU LIVE? ITS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT YOU ARE A MALAYALI AND YOU DONT KNOW TO TYPE TAMIL BUT YOU ARE QUITE WELL VERSED IN ENGLISH. AND MANY OF YOUR CONTRIBUTORS ARE FROM KERALA, BANGALORE, CHENNAI ETC. WELL, THATS NOT THE POINT OF DISCUSSION.
Actually the point of your discussion is that you want to find out who the Admin is. So kindly stop your Malayali-Tamil nonsense and stick to your point. You can make your Malayali-Tamil chatter with your TPM bosses as in TPM you need to be either a Malayali or Tamilian to become TPM CHIEF PASTOR.
SO IF YOU ARE IN KERALA, THEN I AM COMING THERE IN SEPTEMBER.BUT IF YOU ARE BACK HERE IN US/CANADA, I LIVE HERE NEARBY. WE CAN HAVE IT
Oh wow…very smart…now you want to find out if the Admin is a NRI or not ? You leave NEARBY to US and CANADA… Is it Pacific or Atlantic Ocean ?
Moreover its Covid times…just like your white clads who don’t meet their believers fearing Corona Virus…you too be careful !!! First let us know when you reach India…coz movement these days is not regulated as per schedule.
@ADMIN @LIBERTATED
1. I USED THE WORD BORN CHRISITAN TO MEAN THAT I KNOW SCRIPTURES WELL NOT IN THE SENSE OF REBIRTH/SALVATION ETC.
2. I CLARIFIED THAT I AM INVOLVED IN THIS CHURCH FOR MANY YEARS THAT YOU CAN BE SURE THAT I KNOW THE DOCTRINES WELL.
3. I TOLD THE TRUTH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDED ME. I WAS INDEED CONFIRMED BY THE WORD OF GOD AND WITH MANY MORE EXPERIENCES LATER.
4. FOR THE DEBATE, I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS FOR YOUR COMMENT. WHY DO YOU DIFFERENCIATE TPM DOCRTINE AND DOCTRINE OF CHRIST? TPM PREACHES THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST. I AGREE THAT SOME PREACH IT WRONG BY MISINTERPRETATION (LIKE MANY OTHER CHURCHES, THERE ARE BOTH RIGHT AND WRONG SIDES HERE), BUT THE WORKERS AND BELIEVERS DO STRIVE FOR THE RIGHT PERFECT LIFE IN CHRIST. YOU CANNOT SAY THAT AS A WHOLE THEY ARE WRONG JUST BECAUSE OF SOME JUDAS’ LIKE PEOPLE HERE AND THERE.
5. WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLWIN OR ANYONE BUT CHRIST. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SPEAKING TO US AND WE FOLLOW HIS LEADING. THATS IT.
6. WHY DO YOU HESISTATE IN DOING LIVE DEBATES?
7. YOUR SITE SAYS “REMOVING THE MASK FROM TPM”, BUT IN FACT, YOU ARE HIDING BEHIND THE MASK, NOT REVEALING YOU. YOU ARE JUST CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.
8. ASKING ADMIN’s PLACE IS A JUST A FRANK QUESTION ANY READER WOULD HAVE. YOU ARE TRYING TO BE TOO CRITICAL HERE. WELL, THAT SHOWS YOUR NATURE.
// FOR THE DEBATE, I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS FOR YOUR COMMENT. WHY DO YOU DIFFERENTIATE TPM DOCTRINE AND DOCTRINE OF CHRIST? TPM PREACHES THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST.
That is why I told you to pick up one of the articles and put your comment. We are here proving through and through that TPM is propagating a Corrupt Doctrine.. There are 422 articles and out of that around 350 are dealing with your doctrines and the rest are dealing with the fruits of your doctrines.
6. WHY DO YOU HESISTATE IN DOING LIVE DEBATES?
Nobody is hesitating here.This forum is open for you. If you do not like this forum, that is YOUR PROBLEM, Not OURS. Your questions and counter-questions will be answered here. But also be ready to answer on behalf of TPM.
Cathy Jennifer,
I would like to ask you the same question which I asked to Vik.
Do you think there are 2 categories of people inside the church as preached by TPM? is, Saints and Believers. Reply should be based on clear bible verses please.
@ Cathy Jennifer
1. I USED THE WORD BORN CHRISITAN TO MEAN THAT I KNOW SCRIPTURES WELL NOT IN THE SENSE OF REBIRTH/SALVATION ETC
Happy to know that you know the scriptures well ! BTW we are in the process of learning the scriptures. Like the Bereans we search the scriptures daily and alas we found the teachings of TPM simply heresies
2. I CLARIFIED THAT I AM INVOLVED IN THIS CHURCH FOR MANY YEARS THAT YOU CAN BE SURE THAT I KNOW THE DOCTRINES WELL.
Since you know the Doctrines of TPM…can we start with TPMs SALVATION BY WORKS ?
3. I TOLD THE TRUTH THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT GUIDED ME. I WAS INDEED CONFIRMED BY THE WORD OF GOD AND WITH MANY MORE EXPERIENCES LATER.
Ok agreed that the Holy Spirit guided you to TPM but can you tell which verse from the Scriptures confirmed you that you should continue in the Doctrines of TPM.
Can you specify what are the “MANY MORE EXPERIENCES” that you had ? Are those experiences like the one in Deuteronomy:13:2-3 ?
4. FOR THE DEBATE, I HAVE TO ASK YOU THIS FOR YOUR COMMENT. WHY DO YOU DIFFERENCIATE TPM DOCRTINE AND DOCTRINE OF CHRIST?
Yes we differentiate the doctrines of TPM (DoTPM) and the Doctrines of Christ because
a). The Doctrines of Christ was completely received in the First Century itself as in Jude:3
whereas the DoTPM was conceived and propagated after 1923 with various modifications enroute.
b). Gal:1:8 “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed”.
What more did Ramankutty Paul and Alwin have to offer beyond what St Paul preached ?
TPM PREACHES THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST.
TPM may preach 990/1000 truths but they belive in atleast10 heresies.
Sorry to say but TPM is summarised as in 2 Cor:11:13
“For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.”
I AGREE THAT SOME PREACH IT WRONG BY MISINTERPRETATION (LIKE MANY OTHER CHURCHES, THERE ARE BOTH RIGHT AND WRONG SIDES HERE),
There is no scope for preaching the Gospel of Christ wrongly, no not in any denomination.
1 Thes:1:5
For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
Are you saying the Holy Spirit will lead your white clads to speak the truth sometimes and speak wrong things other times ?
BUT THE WORKERS AND BELIEVERS DO STRIVE FOR THE RIGHT PERFECT LIFE IN CHRIST.
I can just quote a verse for the workers and belivers who follow the doctrines of TPM to attain the RIGHT PERFECT LIFE…
Romans:10:2-3
2For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
3 For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God
YOU CANNOT SAY THAT AS A WHOLE THEY ARE WRONG JUST BECAUSE OF SOME JUDAS’ LIKE PEOPLE HERE AND THERE.
Why do you guys always take refuge in Judas to justify your evil acts?
As soon as Jesus realised what Judas was upto…Jesus told him to proceed…He didn’t give him a “transfer” rather He followed Rev:2:2 (…and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars)
Did Judas preach heresies? Did he commit adultery? Fornication? Then why do you hang on to Judas ….who hanged himself!
What does Paul say about a person indulging in adultery in 1 Cor:5:1 (It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife ) ?
Did Paul blame it on Judas and ask the Church to turn a blind eye like TPM saints/believers? No
His solution for evil acts was ….
1 Cor:5:11 “But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat”
Let me tell you one thing….the fall guys in TPM are not Judas but TPM AS AN ORGANISATION IS JUDAS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
5. WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLWIN OR ANYONE BUT CHRIST. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SPEAKING TO US AND WE FOLLOW HIS LEADING. THATS IT.
Why are you distancing yourself from Alwin when the whole premise of TPM Zion/Jerusalem and Celibate ministry is the brain child of Alwin. Can you quote any verse from the (four) Gospels, Book of Acts or Epistles to prove Alwin’s Zion Celibacy doctrines ?
6. WHY DO YOU HESISTATE IN DOING LIVE DEBATES?
The Admin has made it clear. Period.
Still if you are interested in live debates to prove that TPM doctrines are right then you can give a try here…
https://youtu.be/C8bDOZk98vE
7. YOUR SITE SAYS “REMOVING THE MASK FROM TPM”, BUT IN FACT, YOU ARE HIDING BEHIND THE MASK, NOT REVEALING YOU. YOU ARE JUST CONTRADICTING YOURSELF.
I know TPM management is more perplexed and worried because they are unaware of the credentials of the Admin.
Well first come with the list of Authors of the scores of TPM doctrine books that are printed under the banner of TPM.
Moreover TPM is a contagious false doctrine virus so its better to TREAT TPM AFTER WEARING FULL PROTECTIVE GEAR … INCLUDING FACE MASK (like protective gears we wear to protect ourselves from Covid-19)
8. ASKING ADMIN’s PLACE IS A JUST A FRANK QUESTION ANY READER WOULD HAVE. YOU ARE TRYING TO BE TOO CRITICAL HERE. WELL, THAT SHOWS YOUR NATURE.
When you can zoom into Malayali-Tamil-Chennai-Bangalore lingo we are also obliged to be too critical.
@Cathy //5. WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN ALLWIN OR ANYONE BUT CHRIST. THE HOLY SPIRIT IS SPEAKING TO US AND WE FOLLOW HIS LEADING. THATS IT//
You say that you dont follow Allwin, but do you want to know the source of doctrines that gets thrown at you every Weekend. Just watch this video from 1:7:35 to 1:9:24.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ognroLjgvOo&t=2902s
Your deputy Chief Wolf himself is declaring the source of TPM doctrines.
Every single ordained clergy has instructions to follow and preach the same doctrines.
If you have time please do go through rest of this Doctrine of Devils.
Wake up to the fact that TPM sits on the corner stone of error and deception. It took me 42 years to realise this and its better to realise it now than latter.
@ Cathy Jennifer
Hiding behind Judas is equivalent to questioning the sovereignty of God.
The Psalmist has an apt reply for people like you who support the evils of TPM without exposing them
Psalms :50: 18 When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been partaker with adulterers.
@ Redeemed
Just watch this video from 1:7:35 to 1:9:24.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ognroLjgvOo&t=2902s
Please translate it in english what is wrong in it?
Nitin – there is nothing really wrong with the video.
Pastor MT Thomas credits the late pastor Alwin for his good work.
The speaker is not oblivious or ignorant of the fact that pastor Alwin was excommunicated from the church while he was the chief pastor for his conduct that was deemed wrong.
If pastor Thomas wanted to hide it, he could simply avoid naming pastor Alwin in his message.
However, he does not do so.
This irks our From TPM friends, because since their arguments against TPM doctrines is not getting any traction, they simply go after purported immoral activities.
(By the way, some of these activities have been evidenced here and elsewhere, so there may be some truths to the matter)
From TPM and its proponents have an obsession with celibacy, sex and communal living.
My own theory is that there are disgruntled and “liberated” TPM workers supporting this site and working behind the scenes.
This is entertaining and enlightening stuff.
It has had a positive impact on me and has helped me increase and improve my knowledge of the word of God.
Remember, Judas too had a purpose and place in the plan of God.
@I am a TPM fanatic….”It is very clear that you are jealous of the money in TPM.
Thats why you call as beggars.. silly fellow..!!!.
It is quite unbecoming on the part of the fanatics to write such words.Even a minimum civic sense could well be maintained as we are after all brethren in the kingdom of God.Decency and decorum got the heavy beating.
Its particularly noteworthy that TPM invoke those two gods—— Mammon & Belly——.
Quite often there is a blatant display that their actions literally reflect as though they beg for alms (that one gets a feeling) when one hears the invitation to the congregation to come in cue for the prayer after the Sunday message was over. Thanks COVID 19 had applied brakes for the SUNDAY gatherings. Anyway worldwide annual CONVENTIONS were the thing of past for this CULT.
@NMSTF….”Or maybe you should rent out your sheds to the government so that they can convert them to quarantine centres and you can earn some money legitimately. ”
………and and,and you forgot to add one more sentence brother–REVENUE SHARING:
It is all known fact that how the finances were generated/accumulated,and by whose efforts.
It is highly relevant under the present COVID 19 era that this TPM organisation,(sorry a big CORPORATE institution) should share all such revenue proceedings to all the believers community as well along with the clergy in the pro-rata basis .i.e 95:5 ratio (the pro-rata basis is arrived on the strength of each F.H.—- for every 100/11o members of each branch 5 members of clergy is taken as a count).
Suppose if IBR H.Q gets a monthly rentals of One Crore/Two Crore of revenue,they should bear it in mind that keep 5/10 lakhs for their clergy maintenance and the rest 95/190 lakhs should be equally divided to the believer families on the monthly basis. Ihe investment is after all the precious blood & sweat of the believers.According to the present figures there are some 998/1000 F.H in TPM institution
So the revenue sharing should be done on a PRO-RATA basis to all these F.Hs as long as
this COVID 19 remains on the globe.
I think if some one FINANCIAL EXPERT reaches out for any other interesting figures,it is welcome.
After all this is, my fair proposal to Sis. Elina to have serious thought about it and recommend it to her principals.
He/She who meets the friend in need is the real friend indeed!
Elina,please take up this challenge,as many of your poor believers families are suffering from famine already because of this COVID 19 effect.
PLEEASE ELINA COME TO THE RESCUE OF THE POOR AND NEEDY,THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST TO YOU.THIS WILL BE COUNTED AS A GREAT GIFT FROM YOU.
(If my figures are wrong please do correct them from your end, and arrive at your figures . your will have your special agent commission as a result of fruitful efforts,may be it may run in hundreds of lakhs who knows!)
So clinch the issue.Wishing you all the best.
@CATHY JENNIFER…………….. “WE GOT INTO THIS CHURCH AFTER BEING CONFIRMED BY THE HOLY GHOST.”
With this same statement I was too led into TPM fellowship way back in 1998.I was thus far led mercifully by my Saviour in all my goings and comings in for about TWO decades(in your case THREE decades). But never did I realise myself where was I going?
Whether the VOICE /VISION I had was really correct ?
Was I trapped by the same voice like you ‘ve heard it
It could be a proxy voice,who knows.
Did I ever give a trial?
How come I was under the strong delusion for decades together?
Was it really possible?
Here am I following?
There was no let up from me in strictly following it.
Let me briefly take you trough my life journey.
I spent my prime life of FAITH life with this TPM without realising I boarded the wrong plane which was leading me to a different destination though my boarding ticket was issued to the intended destination that I was assured.That meant “HIGHJACKERS” were piloting the plane.
To my surprise this journey was not the ONE I dreamt it in my initial days of my faith life.
But then why did I continue the flight journey all along?
I was blind folded in my journey till I came across this web site in 2017/18,where I came many revealing articles/ episodes that opened my proper intellect.This site really opened my spiritual EYES of UNDERSTANDING that I could bid goodbye to this TPM fellowship
My Lord reconfirmed me through His word Ps 124:1,2,3,4,5
” If it had not been the Lord……. verse 1
” If it had not been the Lord……. verse 2
“We have escaped as a bird from the snare of the fowlers,the snare is broken and we have escaped ! (I applied it for myself, then I re-read the psalm as I have escaped…..I have escaped)………….verse 7
Finally verses 6 & 8 gave me a lot of comfort and soothing effect.
After reading the majority of the articles of this site,I realised that all along I was in wrong footing.
All along the TWO decades,I was blindly believing this TPM fellowship leaving my family of two children and my wife.Spending my hard earned finances,I used to attend all the TPM INTERNATIONAL conventions spread across the globe.Nations like Nepal,S’pore,Malaysia were visited repeatedly to know the INS and OUTS of this TPM fellowship. Sri Lanka -KOKKAWILA convention has been my favourite hunting ground for 9 long years without any break! So mad I was,that every year DECEMBER 31st watch night service,my physical presence would be shifted from TPM native country to CPM Sri Lanka.
Can you believe me?……….9 years ! No break in between.
Was I under strong delution sent from the Lord.Not sure enough that I was in that state of delusion.
Then why did my Lord allow me to pass through this phase? Because I had to stand as a staunch WITNESS to Him .It could have been His divine plan indeed to have a thorough research study on this type of fellowship I was keeping .
By the by, do you wish to know the years that I attended KOKKAWILA conventions?
Did you ever have this kind of LIFE experiences in your THREE decade old walking with this fellowship?
Still I was not having proper perspective of this fellowship.Going blind and blind all along.
But still my Lord did not leave me about knowing the Biblical truths like RAPTURE,whether CHURCH would remain under TRIBULATION period ?What does Bible speak about it?
What does this fellowship talk about it?It says it will not remain in TRIBULATION TIME.
Like many of the gullible believers,I too was led astray to blindly believe PRE-TRIP doctrine that TPM fellowship was propagating to its believers.But thanks to this site which presented impartial view what the Bible talks.I ‘ve got the correct inputs by going through the many articles that this site has published.
POST -TRIB is what exactly the Bible is teaching with strong evidences.Many say,O.K its a debatable issue.Fine.Let us agree to disagree. Theres’ nothing wrong iit.
There are the few examples I cite for you.There were many lies that this TPM has been spreading all through its history sheet of 97 years of its existence.
This blessed site has brought them into light.You must be highly thankful to this site owner. You can go through the revealing articles that this site has brought into public domain.
I must tell you you are very fortunate to have gone through these articles if you had gone through them. If you had not gone through,fair enough,the kingdom of God as told in Matthew 11:12: “From the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and violent men take it by force.”
Jesus is talking to the crowd about John after John’s disciples ask Him if He really is the Expected One.
This fellowship where you are currently following, do you know that they usurp Jesus and claim themselves that Salvation is also possible through them also. A clear blasphemy..A blatant LIE.
Therefore I request you to check up yourself whether you are standing on the ROCK foundation or SAND foundation.When strong winds come,the SAND foundation has no answer to it.
COVID 19 is a sort of strong wind that is blowing away many week structures
Wishing you all the best that you visited this blessed site!
Well said EE, God Bless you!
///“We have escaped as a bird from the snare of the fowlers,the snare is broken and we have escaped ! (I applied it for myself, then I re-read the psalm as I have escaped…..I have escaped)………….verse ///
In my case as well, this was the song which was sung in my last TPM/NTC/UPC/NCPC Sunday service. Its more than 4 years now and they have been the best of my life.
Praise God for liberating us from the bondage of TPM….or shall we sing with the psalmist….
Praise be to the Lord,
who has not let us be torn by their teeth.
We have escaped like a bird
from the fowler’s snare;
the snare has been broken,
and we have escaped.
Our help is in the name of the Lord,
the Maker of heaven and earth.
@ replying to all the comments of Elina
It is obvious that ELINA the commentator is with the admin.
She is just a TPM beleiver like character framed by the admin team.
This reveals your deceptive work throughout the blog.
just as Cathy Jennifer said:
YOUR SITE SAYS “REMOVING THE MASK”,
But YOU (ADMIN) ARE THE ONE HIDING BEHIND..
“You people do not have courage to reveal about you in your own website but you proudly say we reveal all truths about this church & so on..”
Such is the height of your stupidity!!!
@ Liberated @Admin = Both are admin (we know that)
Liberated says “that he knows TPM management is more perplexed and worried because they are unaware of the credentials of the Admin.”
Dont think too much of yourselves.
You are just a piece of non-sense to them.
They have faced many giants more than you.. And won all those who have come against them directly and those who worked behind the screen like you guys.. Because God is with them and He fights for them.
You are just a dust before them. They will simply shake you off. You are still continuing this because they have not taken you seriously enough. All news you are getting from your informers are useless information just like them.
“Its true that you many of you have bitterness against people here and dont know what to do but desperatley want to take revenge. So you are hiding behind and working.
But Bad luck COWARDS!!!
Dont try to create sympathy by calling this as a threat. This is just the fact. Its you who have started it and it will be you who will fall in the pit you digged in.
@ I am another TPM Lunatic…oops Fanatic
@ Liberated @Admin = Both are admin (we know that)
Oh wow…is this your Eureka moment ? Then you can run like Archimedes and tell to your Chief Admin aka Chief Pastor about your discovery.
Liberated says “that he knows TPM management is more perplexed and worried because they are unaware of the credentials of the Admin.”
Dont think too much of yourselves.
You are just a piece of non-sense to them.
Oh is it ? A piece of nonsense warranted your Chief Wolf to use the portals of an International Convention to instruct its blind sheep to keep away from this site…
Sample this :
https://youtu.be/FXzDaa3KnDI
They have faced many giants more than you..
Yes Goliath may have faced giants before challenging David. We accept that we are very small but we say in all humility that we come trusting in God Almighty. God can use even a pebble to mutilate a giant. Thanks for reiterating that TPM is a BIG entity!
And won all those who have come against them directly and those who worked behind the screen like you guys..
Yes the god of TPM is Mammon. So those who come against them they overpower them with bribes. We are not fighting against them behind the screen… we are fighting them wearing the full armour of God…
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Eph:6:12)
Because God is with them and He fights for them.
Yes Mammon is their god…so he fights for them to save their clergy who murdered Kanagaraj Pastor, to save pedophiles, to save illegally encroached lands, to save their black money, to get permissions for conventions, to silence poor belivers family whose young girls are molested and raped by a Center Pastors nephew who is also a worker, etc
And Mamon has given you TPM people victory on all fronts. So go and do #thooo#thaaa##₹₹@&_@₹## before Mammon.
You are just a dust before them.
Yes we accept we are dust because God made man out of dust. But God has breathed His life into us (dust). Morover we remember this…2 Cor:4:7
But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us
They will simply shake you off.
This speaks of your pride and arrogance. Do you think that we are resting/idling on your white clads for them to shake us off ?
You are still continuing this because they have not taken you seriously enough.
Or is it because they are helpless and toothless ? Remember the gates of hell can never prevail against the Church of God. We are members of the Body of Christ. So reserve the arrogance for your white clads only.
All news you are getting from your informers are useless information just like them.
“Its true that you many of you have bitterness against people here and dont know what to do but desperatley want to take revenge. So you are hiding behind and working.
I thank God that TPM flock has some “Ahithophels” to give weird reasons against people truly speaking the Word of God in chastity.
But Bad luck COWARDS!!!
Well the word “COWARDS” best fits for your white clads who locked themselves inside their palatial bunglows aka Fake homes during the present pandemic period and didn’t even entertain belivers inside faith homes.
Dont try to create sympathy by calling this as a threat. This is just the fact. Its you who have started it and it will be you who will fall in the pit you digged in.
Take a chill pill… we dont give a damn to your threats. We go by the idiom “Barking dogs seldom bite”.
SINCE YOU WRONGLY THINK THAT @ Liberated @Admin = Both are admin
I dedicate the following verses for people like you who underestimate their opponents.
Joshua 7:3
They returned to Joshua and said to him, “Do not let all the people go up; only about two or three thousand men need go up to Ai; do not make all the people toil up there, for they are few.
Proverbs 1:32
For the waywardness of the naive will kill them,
And the complacency of fools will destroy them.
@Nitin
//What’s wrong with the YouTube video//
The pastor tells that we can’t have a direct connection with Jesus without a middleman (TPM). It seems like he has picked a lampstand for the eisegesis where the core stem is the middleman and the branches are you and me. (I just watched a for a few seconds and decided not to waste my time.)
Brother. This is a classic example of BRAINWASH. Anyone who has lived in the proximity of this poisonous doctrine for so long will lose their discernment…Very Sad indeed.
@Nitin, adding to what leadusintolight stated, MT states that Lord revealed the TPM doctrines to Alwin which was then transferred into 15 doctrine books by AC Thomas at the press they purchased.
MT is implying that when the Holy Spirit inspired the 66 books, Lord may have forgotten to add a few deeper details which he then thought to reveal through only Alwin.
After receiving the revelation from Alwin’s Jesus, the enlightened Alwin practiced edenic perfection with his co-sisters till he was fired. But his revelations were preserved, printed into 15 books and preached unto this day.
@Redeemed & leadusintolight
Thanks
But did MT say that these things were not known to apostles of Jesus Christ? I am really curious to know because we have been taught that tpm preaches doctrines which Jesus and Apostles preached.
Nitin – the irony of the matter is that those who disagree with TPM teaching continue to listen to it very carefully.
Rather than walk away, they have donned the mantles of Paul and the other apostles to save only those who continue to congregate with TPM.
They have no interest in anyone else.
Doesn’t that strike you are odd?
They have no interest in any other independent pentecostal churches or evangelists or other pseudo-Christian organizations.
A true expounder of the gospel would want his/her work to be far reaching to as many people as possible.
I believe Christ asked his disciples to go and tell the whole world, not just TPM “believers”.
i’ve whatsapp messages to prove the admin teams are crook. where can i post it please?
Go ahead and put up a Youtube or Facebook link for all to see…I am also interested to see. Don’t forget to share the link.
@ Open truth
How do you know whose on admins team ?
You don’t know who Admin is!
You don’t know who are in his team !
And you are claiming to have whatsapp whatever of admin’s team ?
You make few nut cases of your local, keep their name as admins in Whatsapp. Then you make them type something gibberish. And then you will say it is admins team?
Funny threat 😂
@Open truth
Thank you for speaking the truth… Appreciate your boldness.
Yes we are Crooks.
The meaning of Crook is “the hooked staff of a shepherd.” We use the Crook to batter TPMs false doctrines.
But TPM fanatics like you are Crooks meaning a person who is dishonest or a criminal.
I have secret watsapp numbers of many of your TPM workers…please tell me how to pass those numbers to your Chief Wolf ?
Actual crooks in sheep’s clothing are your white clad bosses…..”Who devour widows’ houses, and for a pretense make long prayers. These will receive greater condemnation” (Luke 20:47)
Hay “TPM Fanatic, Cathy Jenifer” you both are not CPM belivers first. Accept It. Becuase a cpm beliver who spend their life minimum 30 years will not speak like you. I am more than you. I am 50 years old beliver in CPM. Both “TPM Fanactic and Cathy Jenifer have read the articles in this forum properly. The admin have not just posted the articles. Posted all the attrocities and voilence happened in CPM with Proof. Its very simple, that TPM Fanactic and Cathy Jenifer dont have moral responsibilities. Both TPM Fanactic and Cathy Jenifer try to gain some moral learning. Even after seeing so much of evidence in this forum about the attrocities and voilence in CPM. Still if you people are hurting me and the admin is a pure Crime. When I read (TPM Fanactic and Cathy Jenifer) both the comments there is no justification. I am able to feel the blabbering in your comments. Some of the cpm pastors and brothers were in jail. Serving their punishments according to the law of land. Hay TPM Fanactic and Cathy Jenifer whatelse you want. I challenge that TPM Fanactic and Cathy Jenifer you are not good human beings. Two things you should understand (1) Doctrine wise CPM is not good. (2) Legal wise CPM lost its Morality. Dont go too much into CPM. I feel pity on you both. TPM Fanactic and Cathy Jenifer Try to contact a Physcatrist get medicines and get rid of mental illness.
@john
Hey John, never though you are so cheap..
first answer the question that was asked to you and then continue barking.
“You howled about your money, right?? Why you gave? Who forced you?
Its you who gave and now crying that they are beggars.
You are the fraud hypocrite. (your words conclude that)
That is why you are a joke, John…”
You are just a freak oldie who could not control emotions.. Pathetic..!!
It is you who should get rid of mental illness because you ran away from church or possibly chased away because of your character (as clearly seen here as a nuisance) and now you are crying for what you did..
Poor john, the only thing you can do is to howl against truth.!!
This shows the true spirit of every TPM Fanatic. They have absolutely no respect when talking with an older person. The Demon within them are raging when their nakedness is exposed. Good Show.
Waiting for you johnsons, franklins, dominics, josephs, naths, shajis, etc.
First a person should deserve respect for the respect to be given.
Your works and words prove your worth. utterly deplorable!
You guys are just cheer girls for the people of your kind.
Hello TPM Fanatic,
So as per your own rule “First a person should deserve respect for the respect to be given.“, your words condemn yourself.
If you think you are given a free pass, it’s not so. If you cannot talk with respect, you will be thrown out of this forum.
Dai ‘I am a TPM Fanatic ” I am a Hindu by birth. My friend asked me to attend the cpm church. At that time Pastor Paul was in Kelly’s. I was taught pay the tithes to the cpm church. In those days I don’t know that there are rogue’s like you in the cpm church. Is that the question to your answer is answered. Now I ask you the question. How you say that you are a cpm fanatic. Without having basic knowledge about the tithes. I am not barking. You are barking.
@Iam a TPM fanatic…
You should thank believers like John, whose blood and sweat gave you crooks like you a roof to live under.
You should thank believers like John for the food you so happily devour.
You should thank believers like John for the white lungi and Kurta you are wearing. Remember even your underwear is sponsored by the blood and sweat of poor believers.
You should thank like John for the vehicles you so proudly travel in. When was the last time you bought a ticket with your own hard earned money.
You should thank believers like John for the bed you sleep on and the clean bed sheets you so shamelessly use. Remember you did not bring anything with you when you signed up to serve your TPM lords.
Shame on you for mocking the hands which keep you alive, you sick servant of Satan.
You lie and deceive poor gullible folks just like your father. You do your father’s desire by roaming around looking for whom to steal, kill and destroy.
It is not too late for you to repent failing which you will be one of those about whom Jesus stated so vividly….
On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’
And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’
Finally if this Corona Pandemic continues, you will be on the streets looking for a job, so please learn something better than lying, killing and stealing.
@ I am a TPM Fanatic …
You made some comments in bad taste to @John
You said…
You howled about your money, right?? Why you gave? Who forced you?
Its you who gave and now crying that they are beggars.
You are the fraud hypocrite. (your words conclude that)
That is why you are a joke, John…”
You are just a freak oldie who could not control emotions.. Pathetic..!!
You TPM FRAUDS should be thankful to @John.
Brother John has very fond memories of TPM Chiefs/ Accountants/Incharges ….calling up John’s Father to handle Income Tax raids at TPM Adyar/ Irumbiliyur Headquarters as his Father was an Income Tax officer. His family knows very well TPMs money siphoning techniques. His family has paid huge amounts of money to TPM…there is much more to say.
So please @ Mr TPM Fanatic… don’t try to browbeat genuine readers of this site.
@Nitin,
//But did MT say that these things were not known to apostles of Jesus Christ? //
I dont recollect him saying that but if was the case you could have seen doctrines of divine healing, celibacy, hirearchy of pastors, zion, white dress etc in some of the epistles. But you dont.
So these are add ons from the devil himself to adulterate the SINCERE TRUTH.
When you are taught that they preach what Jesus or Apostles preached, suggest that you do what the Bereans did. As per acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they
received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the Scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
A smatter of words such as fire, jesus, holy spirit, zion, blessings from the pulpit doesn’t mean it came from Jesus.
Please understand the context and then try to read the scriptures to see if it is indeed the case.
Divine healing is a promise of God. Am I wrong?
Laying conditions down, the Lord promised to heal his people.
Celibacy is a matter of choice. If you don’t like it, don’t practice it.
It is not WRONG to choose to be celibate.
The apostles say that if one cannot control his/her urges, then let him/her marry. Is that not correct?
Hierarchy of pastors is an administrative affair. It has nothing to do with doctrines.
Don’t like it? Don’t accept it.
White dresses, grey suits, trousers and shirts – these are mere outwardly appearances which do not matter. You want to wear a clown suit? Go ahead. Your choice.
Zion – is there a question as to the existence of Zion? I am not sure.
Who decides who goes to Zion or any of the other mansions in the kingdom of heaven?
No pastor, “church” or website has the authority to do this.
God will decide.
Context matters indeed.
Dai “Tpm Fanatic ‘ whole world is watching you. Good Christian will know the pain how Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission gives pain to each human being. Every Christian apart from Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission knows how cheating and tuff fools are there pastors and sisters. Cpm only came in search of me. Not me. Cpm is the one who invites hindus to convert themselves into their church by their cunning words, false promises. I think your parents, pastors, sisters have not taught you how to analyze the problems. Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission will blindfold their belivers by teaching them “Divine healing ‘, and other false information.
Hello John Ebe..
Why don’t you share your testimonies…You say that you were there for 50 years. By that you can reveal many things out from the church like the admin..
Everybody in singapore, chennai, india, west will come to know those.
Dear all in this forum. Please make a note of comments by the one ‘Tpm Fanatic “. How he is disrespectful. Dear Christian’s we all have to know how worst attitude is from Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission. Listening to Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission church messages and prayer see how their belivers are so rude in this forum. Even Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission church pastors and sisters should know their belivers attitude and behavior. Cpm church pastors and sisters prayers are preparing big criminals and frauds it seems. World Christian’s should turn their attention towards this rogue denomination like Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission.
John – with all due respect, I find some of your comments disrespectful.
The tone is hurtful.
I sense your pain, but it is manifesting itself in anger.
That may not be healthy.
@ Cathy Jennifer @ I am a TPM fanatic @ I am another TPM fanatic….
No scriptural debate from you guys only trying to make a din here.
Have you guys lost steam ?
Dai “Cathy Jennifer, I am a TPM Fanatic, I am another TPM Fanatic” For your information. I have been in this forum since 3 years. There are so many people were tortured in Ceylon Pentecostal Mission. Cathy Jennifer there is a beliver in this forum asked to hold on the cock of the centre pastor during nights while massaging. Will you do that. I think you have not read that article. Thats why i mentioned your “mental’. There should be some justice in public. Ceylon Pentecostal Mission is a place where lot of crimes will happen under the white color in this earth. No where in this world christians were cheated and tortured. It is Ceylon Pentecostal Mission that came in search of lot of Hindus and other christian denominations to convert them into CPM brothers and sisters. CPM should have “standard Operating Procedures’. There is no such rules and regulations. As and when take money and spend on their own like Joshua Thiyagarajan. At last death is confirmed. That too death will be horrible. Horrible means suffering with diabetes loosing the leg, hands, eye power and die pathetically. This is the situation very horrible before death. In one word ceylon pentecostal mission will kill people in the name of Divine Healing. Recently a beliver in Ceylon Pentecostal mission died. No sisters came to sing a song. No centre pastors came. Enquired about it and found. Its an order from Irumbuliyur that sisters should not go outside. During this pandamic of corona virus. so many men and women pledge their lives and run for survival to earn money. But Ceylon Pentecostal mission sisters want them to be safe and live longer. CPM pastors and sisters remember that you came to this ministry to die for the sake of Jesus Christ. Not to save you lives. Your prayers from Irumbuliyur is of no use. Becuase your prayers never heals any diseases. So many innocent lives were sacrificed. The curse is so much that it is going to hurt your CPM church. Your cpm church is going to be worst church in the History of Christianity. Mark my words. Other christian denominations are not like cpm church. They preach jesus and allow to take medicines and love their families. CPM pastors and sisters keep your right hand on your heart and close your eyes and think that did you allow your belivers to live a good life in CPM. You have not allowed. Because you the “Tuff fools in this earth. Its high time that CPM church will be the worst marked church. TPM fanatic imagine if someone is beating you to death and you are able to see your life moving away from you by some of the goons. This happened our beloved pastor Kanagaraj. He was killed to death. But CPM facebook published saying Pastor kanagaraj died because of Heart Attack. So many were killed and silently sent to cementries. Here after dont speak any thing without knowledge.
Dai Matthew Jo alias admin alias redeemed alias no more fear to slave alias “list continues”
you are such a perverted / crooked person and you need youtube or facebook link to be exposed?
you are not worth that much, just a pile of human waste and your own platform is enough to expose your evil antics.
the way you have written articles in this website and commented with fake names, shows you are mentally disturbed psycopath and in bad depression.
make some provision in your comments section to attach pictures and i’ll expose all your evil antics.
let your readers and followers know your true colors
WOW..That is a great revelation. Finally, Mathew Jo is exposed. Clap!!Clap!!Clap!!!
And why don’t you like Facebook? Do you think they will stop you from uploading?
https://youtu.be/ftJBjtflsRM?t=9
Pastor Science Thomas of Frazer Town faith home Bangalore refused to conduct funeral service of a sister who passed away..Very old believers of this Church..He suspected that the sister had died of COVID 19…even though it was not so..The family also had a certificate from the private hospital regarding the actual cause of death…
However he refused to accept the same and did not conduct the funeral service , fearing for his life…It was later conducted by the centre Pastor..
This is the behaviour of the shepherds who have forsaken all and have come to give their life for the sheep..
There’s a pastor named “Science”? Really?
His Nick name is Science…. because he used collect all details from internet and speak about Galaxies..World war 3..Space and latest invention and scientific stuff…
Hay “Vik G” my comments are disrespectfull, hurtfull, pain etc. Shall i say something. CPM made me all this (disrespectfull, hurtfull, pain and many more…) It is my life i lost with the CPM stupids. I have all the rights to express in this forum. CPM did so much foolishness to so many. Please read the articles in this forum. No good human beings will tolerate the attrocities and voilence in CPM. If you are so disturbed, I think you are also involved in many crimes against the innocents in CPM.
@John,
Please don’t waste your time with Dr. VIK. He has been on this website since it’s inception and by now he has a doctorate in “What is wrong with TPM theology”.
Poor man tries his best to defend this cult and it appears that he has lots to lose if this satanic system goes down. Maybe his brother or uncle or grandpa was a minister in this cult and he just cannot accept that they were wrong.
He like preaching and if you can copy and paste all his comments, it will be longer than all the articles combined on this site.
Some people keep reading but they just don’t learn anything. I think we should all pray for this poor man so that he is delivered from this satanic CPM/TPM delusion.
BTW, he is the only one on this blog who is using hi true name – Vikramaditya.
He will surely read this and will comment because he loves to debate even if there is nothing to debate about.
Also I’m still waiting for his answer to my second question.
And he cannot empathise with you or any of TPM/CPM’ s victims because he has not experienced any evil from his CPM/TPM masters. Also he just loves this cult so much that he just ignores all the evil they teach and practise.
Hai “Open Truth” if you are a true person. Answer my question. Why CPM ignored the death of Pastor Kanagarj. Why Pastor Joshua Thiyagarajan enjoying with his Girl Friend. Why pastor Gunaseelan asking Robin Teju to hold his cock during night massage. Why sisters in irumbuliyur were tortured by working in building sites. Fraud “Open Truth” do you have any answeres to this questions or going to abscound. First you be holy and then ask questions devil “Open Truth”. There is a problem in your birth. Check it first. Answeres are important “open truth”.
Dear John,
Many of these TPM Fanatics put in comments with Fake email ids. I have stopped approving for people who send comments from such ids. From now on, It’s only after proper verification we approve their comments.
I did a check for this open truth guy and this is what I got.
550-5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please
try 550-5.1.1 double-checking the recipient’s email address for typos or
550-5.1.1 unnecessary spaces. Learn more at 550 5.1.1
https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser s6si8294601plr.309 – gsmtp
(in reply to RCPT TO command)
Dai “Vik G” supporting a crime is also a crime. CPM pastors and sisters do crimes in faithhomes. Seeing the crime and smiling in a room and just pass the time is also a crime. If you are true human being you should help the victim and try to prevent the crime. Better ask your pastor to change the name of your church to “Crime Pentecostal Mission”. Because lot of crimes are happening under the white color peoples home. Just because of Food and beverages from the “Crime Pentecostal Mission” you are supporting this crimes. Are you a human being. If a evidence was proved and one of your pastors and brothers were in Jail as per the law of land. Without even a shame you are still supporting your “Crime Pentecostal Mission. It is all for your 9′ inch stomach. Is this the way you live. Eating food just to cover crimes. VIk G you are forgetting that you are covering all the crimes happened in the Ceylon Pentecostal Mission Church. VIK G you speak as if you are virgin. You are not a virgin. You know what I am going to say. I need answeres VIK G. Answeres are important. Dont Just Abscound. Now the curse have started in CPM.
John – I will give you all the answers you need.
Email me on –EMAIL ID TRUNCATED–
As the Lord said, “Seek and you will find”.
By the way, I have not “seen” any of the “crimes” you are referring to.
I have only heard the allegations made and some evidence shown.
The question I have is that with SO MUCH evidence at your disposal, why has no one from this website filed a case against any of the “criminals”?
File the case, have it prosecuted and get the “criminals” sentenced as per the law of the land.
Although I have not measured it, the size of my stomach is grossly exaggerated.
9 feet long stomachs would require a wheel barrow to support.
Stupid “vik g’ I was pointing on the murder of pastor Kanagaraj. Two pastors who killed pastor Kanagaraj were already in jail. You are acting as if you know nothing. Because of stupids like you most of the innocents dying in the hands of criminals inside the Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission. This is called the heights of stupidness. Those who lost the virginity in their life will ignore the crime and act as if nothing is happened and continue to be holy. Just Ceylon PENTECOSTAL mission church pastors and sisters are doing.
Admin – why are you afraid of me sharing my email address with someone?
Are you afraid that I will have a frank, honest and open conversation with John?
Or do you want to be the censor between us?
John – my email address is –EMAIL ID TRUNCATED–
Our friend, Nath, here knows this and has exchanged emails with me.
Come on, admin! Have some courage!
We do not welcome who misuse the services for their selfish end. And you know what I mean.
Request you to respect the boundaries especially when you are in this forum.
Admin – how would sharing my email address with a fellow “believer” and having a conversation with him become “misuse”?
Perhaps there is some scriptural support for your statement.
You seem to be clairvoyant and able to discern every single person’s intent.
Previously I had shared my email address with Nath and he was able to reach me.
Why was it ok then and not ok now?
Are you afraid that your “friends” might find some meaning in my statements and arguments?
Apart from your “fear” of my “misuse”, is there any other reason?
Perhaps you should have a word with No More a Slave To Fear.
He may be able to help you with your “fear”.
Remember 1 John 4:18 – “There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment. But he who fears has not been made perfect in love.”
Or perhaps you want to always be the middle man between the “believers” and the “redeemed/liberated”?
I thought that is what someone accused pastor MT Thomas of preaching?
What makes you think we cannot upgrade our policies? We have upgraded it as follows
– Use of non-real email ids while commenting will be discouraged. We will verify email ids which is suspicious.
– Sharing of e-mail ids via comments are disallowed.
You have to abide by the rules of the site. PERIOD.
Suddenly @ Vik G is interested in interacting with @John personally. Is it because he came to know that John’s Father was an Income Tax officer whose services TPM took for helping them during IT raids ?
And that @ John is well versed with the atrocities of TPM…
it is obvious that our friend Vik is addicted to TPM and fromtpm.com.
The lockdown is making him spend more time @fromtpm.com than at the feet of his TPM/UPC slave masters.
Poor guy just cannot accept that his precious TPM/UPC pharaohs cannot be the mediator between God and Man.
We should all pray for his redemption so that he is Liberated from this CPM delusion so that he can also join the Redeemed, the Liberated and the Admin in shouting, I’m no more a slave to fear but a Child of God.
Till then, let us bear with him because he loves His Emptys to be the mediator between the Deceived and the Deceiver.
While we fromtpm.com sing ” Praise God, we are Redeemed”, he continues to enjoy joining the CPM faithful in singing “Praise CPM, I’m Deceived”
Dear All, Its a clear sky now. All the crimnals, frauds( Cathy Jenifer, I am TPM Fanatic, Open Truth, Vick G) abscounded. I think no more they will participate in this forum. This forum might taught them how worst their CPM principles . This website may be an eye opener for them. Unable to digest the truth. Its a Great Victory for the admin.
I vividly remember the Bridge Breaking Ceremony of my Sister. She was coerced into joining TPM ministry. I never saw much difference in my college going sister until after attending a Youth Camp in Chennai. I am sure in an emotional mood during the Saturday night meeting she lifted her hand when the Chief Wolf asked for Youths who want to surrender for the full time ministry. After the YC she was haunted by the Worker sister who accompanied her to the YC. At every point she made sure to hammer in the point that she is set apart for the great TPM ministry. I soon saw a change in her attire, in her demeanor. Soon I noticed that she was spending more time in FAke Home. She was continuously called for work in the FH. She was 24*7 monitored by the sisters. In the subsequent International Convention in Chennai off she was taken into TPMs ministry. During the Bridge Breaking Meeting the Center Pastor insisted us to call as many people just like a marriage. But he also insisted that more money should not be spent on food. The Center Pastor didn’t say much. But the Center Mother and Sisters came up with many demands. They insisted that Workers from nearby Fake Homes be called, Offerings be given to them and for every one in Center Faith Home. The Sisters clandestinely told my Mother that whatever gifts are offered by friends and relatives should be handed over to Center Pastor, which my parents did in all sincerity.
They preach that they leave their house without anything. But the suitcase of the new entrant has to be packed with dresses, towels, pins, starch powder, soaps, mugs, etc. Once all this was done the Center Mother came and told clandestinely that when we go to drop the new entrant in Irumbilyur we should give money to the following people…
1. Three Chiefs
2. Headquarters Mother
3. Training incharge Pastor
4. Sis Kumari
5. Sis Gresilda
6. IBR center pastor.
Clearly the whole sham of Bridge Breaking Ceremony is a SHAM. Moreover the testimony given by the new entrant during the Bridge Breaking Ceremony is clearly exaggerated at the behest of the workers Sisters. They whip up emotions with songs fit for the occasion which invigorates other also to follow suit.
Liberated – I hope your sister was also liberated or escaped.
I’ve never witnessed one of these bridge breaking ceremonies, but sounds like a gruesome affair with all the pomp and ceremony.
It’s a disgusting practice.
Not sure how long this has been going on for.
@ Vik G
How can she be Liberated when educated people like you still uphold them with your money and muscle. My family is not liberated from this cult TPM because their eyes are blinded. They are believing a lie called TPM.
Dear Brother/Sister Vik G you always keep harping that why some of us don’t reveal our name. Now tell me…won’t the tough TPM taskmasters humiliate my family if I happened to reveal my identity ?
From many of your comments I can make out that whenever someone expresses a negative activity of TPM you act smart and tell that you are not aware of such things… I don’t know your age but if you have a daughter, send her to ministry…then you will understand the pain.
@ Liberated……. “From many of your comments I can make out that whenever someone expresses a negative activity of TPM you act smart and tell that you are not aware of such things…
Well said brother Liberated, the Spirit of Christ has spoken these words through you.
Every word appeared in the comments section contributed from the hand of the active members of this site(who are they? The answer is there with them who might pose this question) filled with deep sense of melancholy(a tendency towards gloominess).
My heart goes with beloved brother Liberated for sharing your beautiful piece of testimony.
Heaven is also in the same page with you brother.
But for some people this site becomes a sight of entertainment while the others weep.
“For man does not know his time.Like fish which are taken in an evil net and like birds which are caught inn a snare ,so the sons of men are snared at an evil time,when it suddenly falls upon them”(Ecclesiastes 9:12),
But the redemption comes soon and we are set free….
“We have escaped as a bird from the snare of the fowlers,the snare is broken”Ps 124:7
That is the real tragedy dealing with this organisation called TPM/NTC/CPM/NCTC/……/…….
God has kept a day of redemption for all those prayers filled with deep melancholy.
My prayers go with you.