TPM members (workers) believe that they are Apostles. They also say that they preach the same doctrines which Christ and his Apostles preached. So it’s time to see what Christ and the Apostles preached. Thereby we can verify TPM’s doctrines. Let us begin by studying the gospel preached by Jesus himself.

Observing the Pattern of Gospel Preached by Jesus

In John 8, we read that they brought a woman before Jesus. She was caught in adultery. They tried to test Jesus and asked him, what should be done to sinners? How did Jesus respond? He preached the Gospel to them. He was writing on the ground. And then when insisted, he replied.

He told them, “he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her (John 8:7).” Then he began writing something on the ground (probably some verse out of scriptures likeno one is righteous not even one [Psalm 53:3]’ or ‘Who can bring what is pure from the impure? No one! [Job 14:4]’ or probably from Ecclesiastes 7:20 that there is no just man upon earth that sins not).  And we find that none of them could cast a single stone at her. The crowd accepted that they are all sinners (as she was). None of them dared to lift a single stone at her. They realized that they are not better than the sinful adulterous woman. This was the first part of Christ’s teaching. The first part was to make everyone believe that they all are equal before God – sinners and worthy of punishment.

Next, Jesus preached the gospel to them by saying, if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins. (John 8:24). So observe, first he preached them that all of them are transgressors of the law. Then, he asked them to believe in him to be saved from the punishment of death. The third and most important thing he did was, that he based his teaching on the Old Testament. He wasn’t giving something new to them which the scriptures in the Old Testament hadn’t spoken. He was making his words grounded and rooted in the testimony of the Holy Scriptures. He said, “Your father Abraham, he desired to see my days, and he saw it and he was glad” (John 8:56 paraphrased).  So the point is that Jesus preached the gospel to the sinners to believe in his name, by rooting his doctrine in the testimony of the Old Testament Scriptures.  

When he rose from the dead and it was time to send his followers into the world, he opened their eyes to see how the Old Testament was written about him. We read, “Beginning from Moses and all prophets he expounded unto them all scriptures things concerning himself.” We see that Jesus was not making them believe in the supernatural. He didn’t say that what you have witnessed is alone proof and evidence that this thing is from God.  But he was making their belief to be grounded in what is clearly written in scriptures (Old Testament).

This is exactly opposite to what we find in contemporary Christianity and especially among TPM circle. TPM believes that the New Testament is altogether a new thing, which people in the Old Testament were not aware of. They teach that saints in the Old Testament will go to third-grade eternity called new heaven, while they themselves being unmarried will occupy the highest of heaven on account of higher-order ministry that they are doing. So TPM’s teaching is not based on the faith of the Old Testament prophets. It is not based on witnessing of Old Testament saints. It is something New, not preached by Jesus, apostles and old testament.  Let me give you a few more examples.

Observing the Sermons of Peter

In Acts 2, we read about the first sermon preached by Peter. Peter stood up, and lifted up his voice and convinced his audience that they have crucified Jesus with their wicked hands. The Holy Ghost pricked them in their hearts that they are sinners. Then they inquired, “What should we do to be saved?” And he responded to them by telling them to believe in Jesus to be saved. So again we see he is convincing them of being sinners and then asking them to believe in Jesus. He always sourced his inspiration from the Old Testament scriptures. He says David foresaw Jesus and his tongue rejoiced and his heart was glad (c.f. Acts 2:25). And David spoke about Jesus in psalms that “you (O God) will not leave thy Holy One to see corruption (Acts 2:27).” Peter says David spoke about the resurrection of Jesus (Acts 2:30-31).

So again we observe that while preaching sinners to believe in Jesus’ name, Peter made the Old Testament as the basic foundation of his gospel. He was as if saying that I am NOT teaching you some new revelation; rather it is grounded and rooted in the testimony of the Old Testament. So the 3000 members added to the Church that day, had their beliefs rooted in witnessing of the Old Testament. Apostle Paul, therefore, wrote, “Build upon (the church is built upon) the foundation of Apostles and Prophets, Christ being the CORNERSTONE (Eph 2:19-20).” The church is established on belief in Jesus (the cornerstone) preached by Old Testament Prophets and New Testament Apostles. That is what we are also trying to do in the Venom removal series.

Studying Sermon Patterns

Now ask yourself, how is TPM church established? What does the TPM church believe? Which Jesus and which gospel and what teachings do they preach? Do they believe that the saints of the Old Testament taught the same things which they are teaching? Or do they believe that Old Testament saints were absolutely in dark concerning the new things taught by TPM leaders?

Observing the Second Sermon of Peter

In Acts 3, we read the second sermon preached by Peter after healing a lame man. Peter preaches at the porch of Solomon, that they have denied Jesus Christ convincing them of their sins (Acts 3:14). Continuing further he says, by faith in the name of Jesus, this man is made whole. So he was preaching them their sins and belief in the name of Jesus. And how does he establish his teachings? He says, “Moses truly said to our fathers, ‘A prophet shall God raise like unto me. And every soul which will not hear him shall be destroyed (Acts 3:22-23 paraphrased).’” Further down he says,All the prophets that followed from Samuel onwards have spoken about these days of Jesus (Acts 3:23-24 paraphrased).” Thus we observe Peter grounding his gospel in the testimony of the Old Testament. He was making the testimony of Moses and all prophets to establish people in the church and the kingdom of God that he was building. And then we read in Acts 4:4 that the number of people who were added to the church (who believed the testimony of the Old Testament) grew from 3000 to 5000.

Sermon of Peter at the house of Cornelius

We observe that while preaching the gospel to gentiles, namely Cornelius, Peter used the testimony of Old Testament again. He said to his audience that,

“All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

Acts 10:43

So again we find the weight of the testimony of the Old Testament is used to establish the new members in the church and the kingdom of God.

The Sermon of Paul

In Acts 13, we read the Apostle Paul while preaching the gospel to Gentiles, criticizes Jews for not paying heed to the testimony of prophets in the Old Testament. He says,

The people of Jerusalem and their rulers did not recognize Jesus, yet in condemning him they fulfilled the words of the prophets that are read every Sabbath.

Acts 13:27

Read the Gospel preached by Apostle Paul to the church of Romans. He first convinces that all mankind is sinful (Rom 3:9). Then he preaches the gospel of faith in Jesus by the testimony of the Old Testament (Genesis), of how Abraham was declared just (Rom 4). So again we find the same pattern, viz., to make witnessing of the Old Testament to what they taught and preached.

Conclusion

Isn’t this why Paul says, that church and the teachings which the church believes has to be built upon on testimony of Old Testament [confirmed by apostles of New Testament] (Eph 2:20)? Then why do TPM and other counterfeit sisters of TPM, believe in new revelations and traditions of humans, which has no witnessing in the Old Testament? The teachings of the Holy Spirit were the same throughout the mouths of Old Testament prophets and New Testament Apostles of Jesus. And this is in stark contrast to the new revelations in TPM. The Pentecostal Mission claims that the revelations of the New Testament were not known to Old Testament prophets. This makes them put the Old Testament in the lower cadre of heaven and themselves in higher cadre – viz., their new revelations! God open your eyes.    

32 COMMENTS

  1. TPM ministry and some of its interpretations of the scripture are a bundle of contradictions. There is a lot of hypocrisy and selective application or non-application of their own rules and doctrines. We need to fast and pray for the ministry and the Lord to send some more Old Testament Elijahs to heal this ministry. They have a song in NTC song book which says that. If the Old Testament saints are considered a lower class, and some of these hypocrites are higher class then they will feel sorry on the day of judgement.

    Also, this is a chance for the TPM chief to speak to his coworkers or junior clergy about many of the bad practices and do further reformation. Already we notice some form of reform happening based on the inputs they find in this site. So, we people in addition to providing our concerns we need to fast and pray for all the wickedness in the ministry.

    One of the issue being that of not allowing members to take communion or have funerals in TPM meeting halls for some believers who have been receiving medical care. This is a practice that has been applied inconsistently. It has been brought to TPM top clergy’s notice that many of the so called TPM “servants of God” do take medications or some form of medical care secretly. Before or after their death this secret comes out at some point or other. Either this practice of selectively not allowing the funeral of believers who were found to have received medical care to take place at the FH Meeting hall should stop or if applied it should be applied to the so called TPM “servants of God” and non-clergy who are relatives of the top clergy as well.

    In some parts of India and some of the other countries, this evil practice is not followed at all.
    Recently the mother of the chief, Mrs. Annamma Mathew passed away and apparently she was under the care of a physician and she was hospitalized a few times as well during her lifetime. Her funeral was held at the meeting hall in the NTC facility at 3344 N. Lincoln St, Franklin Park, IL 60131 on March 7, 2020. If the same unwritten TPM law or written and not disclosed to public or one of the false doctrines was applied to the mother of the chief then her funeral should not at all have taken place at the NTC meeting hall. She herself was a medical practitioner who has worked in hospitals in the past in Malaysia and other countries.

    One person, a center pastor passed away in December 2018. His was based in Trichy when he died. He secretly (like the David Raj who passed away in Cuddalore recently) and unsuccessfully tried a cataract operation or some medical treatment that involved some surgical procedures. Soon it was found by others. He was involved in certain other evil practices in different places with different women and unfortunately the “re-sanctifying the tainted saint” process did not work fully in his case. It may have worked for a few hours or few days or weeks and then it stopped similar to the failure of the re-sanctification process used for M Joshua Thiagarajan. This person’s funeral was also conducted in the TPM hall. If the procedure of disallowing believers funeral who died or been to hospital is followed consistently with everyone including the so called “servants of God” then the funeral for the person and most of the so called TPM servants of God who have taken medications or some form of medical treatment in their deathbed or before should have been performed in their bedroom or living area instead of FH meeting hall. If the same yardstick applied to other innocent members are applied to the clergy, their body can be taken directly for burial from their living quarters instead of bringing it to the FH meeting hall.

    Shyam Sundar got a medical/fitness certificate (this may have been taken to avoid a court appearance as well) with information that states he was under the treatment and medical supervision of Dr. Mrs. Suman Prasad, a Gynecologist and general practitioner (practicing out of Suman Hospital, 81, Christian Colony, Mecosabagh, Nagpur – 4) for Viral Fever from October 19, 2014 to October 27, 2014. If Shyam Sundar were to die one day, will his funeral be allowed in a FH meeting hall setting or should it be held in and around his sleeping room and then taken directly for burial?

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  2. “We are oft to blame in this, – ’tis too much proved, – that with devotion’s visage, and pious action we do sugar o’er the devil himself.” – William Shakespeare
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    Our story begins as these stories often do with a young up-and-coming religious man. He is completely single-minded and has no regard for the society and its people.
    The more power he attains the more obvious his zealotry becomes. From a young common lad who grew up in TPM to a youth leader, this man is completely equipped with all the doctrines that TPM has to offer.
    It is at this point of our story that he turns into a spider. He’s a man seemingly without a conscience, for whom the end always justify the means. He has been appointed as the youth leader and has direct interaction with the youths. He is an amazingly gifted orator but like many good orators in TPM his knowledge over the subject of the Bible stems from his experience and doctrines of The Pentecostal Mission.
    This man, Jobey Philip, of whom many TPM clergy and believers have dear ideas about his lifestyle indeed seems to be a pious man, if not a saint equal or better than the TPM ministers, has very dangerous and deluded ideas about the Bible and how a youth must lead his/her life to be ‘perfect’.
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    Mr. Jobey will not find it difficult to bash somebody in public, be it a youth meeting or social media who disagrees with him over any subject matter, especially of that of TPM doctrines.
    Permit me in lieu to narrate a few incidents why I speak highly of this person.
    1. Discourages education: It is not an uncommon occurance to hear among religious fanatics that everybody must read only their sacred scriptures. We see this among the Hassidic Jews (ultra-orthodox Jews), TPM fanatics, 7th day Adventists and many more. This man also preaches that we need not put much effort into our education because it is worldly. We should only put a fraction of our study time into this ‘worldly knowledge’ because soon this world and its knowledge will pass away. It is not a surprising thing to see why he discourages education. It is not because he knows that youths will grow their way out of his false teachings, but because when they don’t understand something he knows that he wouldn’t be able to answer them, ergo its best to keep them away from things that you are not smart enough to understand.
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    2. Hypocrisy: Getting angry at a person and calling it the zeal for God is not spiritual, it’s lame and it is hypocrisy. Allow me to give three examples two prove this:
    2.1. During the preaching time he uses his latest Apple iPad (about which, it will be discussed soon) to jot down important points and take notes. But if anyone else uses his phone to even open the Bible he snatches it from them or insults them after the meeting is over.
    2.2. It was very common for him to talk about how he stalks other believers on Facebook and talk about their personal life during the youth meeting and how it is wrong for them to do what they do. He strongly urged his youths to quit using Facebook while he himself used it to stalk believers and bitch about them in the youth meetings.
    2.3. He condemned every believer who either bought a new house or a new car. He used to say, Jesus didn’t have a home to lay his head nor his disciples, so it is not a good idea to purchase a new house or cars. There are two things that are wrong with his propositions: believers while living on this planet need vehicles and a shelter to commute & raise a family, and Jobey himself used to buy all the latest gadgets (especially Apple products). By his own logic he mustn’t buy new gadgets let alone using them during the sermon.
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    If asked why he don’t lead by example by not doing the aforementioned acts, he says you need to be spiritually mature to use phone/gadgets during meetings, be on Fb and buy new stuff. What he implied was since I am the only spiritually mature man, I am eligible to use them, not you!
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    3. Turning young people against their own parents: There are many people who dare not speak ill about anyone’s parents especially in front of their own kids. Not because of fear, but because basic courtesy and manners dictates them. It is a universally accepted cultural norm of a civil society. But it seems that Jobey does not belong to that group.
    He used to take his youth meetings after the sermon for one hour. Sometimes his meetings used to exceed the allotted time limit by 10 or 15 minutes and that’s absolutely fine. It is also absolutely fine if a certain believer father wants to relieve his son from his youth meeting even before it gets over. And when this father wants to relieve his son when his youth meetings have exceeded the time limit, the youth leader is obliged to allow him to leave. But this one time, when this happened, he insulted the father before his son and the whole youths. The poor young lad stood there dumbfounded needless to say angry and upset.
    There was this one youth who used to make clean, funny YouTube videos for views. Before uploading it on the internet, he used to show it to his parents and only with their approval he used to upload the. Jobey’s response to the boy and his parent’s approval was rather hysterical. He said, “Your parents are not real Christians.”
    There were one more than one instances when because of his teachings, many youths fought with their parents because their parents were not holy enough for them, their life advices and choices seemed to be sick to their own children. Lo and behold, Jobey was successful in passively brainwashing them with TPM’s core fundamental lies.
    I don’t wish to demean him in any way but it is imperative to reveal his true face and ideologies because he has a platform to directly influence and manipulate the youths. Teen age is a period when people are struggling to understand their bodies, minds and the world around them. So with these kinds of people who have a charming speech make only things worse. We cannot keep them in a safe space, so the best thing we can do is to make them strong, equip them with true knowledge and notify them about false doctrines and their teachers. False preachers are not only the ones who are pretending to be the shepherd, they are among the sheep too to manipulate them.
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    “And thus I clothe my naked villainy
    With odd old ends stol’n out of holy writ;
    And seem a saint, when most I play the devil.”

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    • Good one Hebrew friend! If it is ok, can you please tell me which part of TPM’s Kingdom is this St. Jobey Phillip reigning. Must be in the US?

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        • @Admin, that is interesting, a young believer in TPM given so much power. Must be a rich believer’s son or a candidate for the inglorious celibate ministry or shall we say a lamb ready to be slaughtered at Molech’s celibate altar.

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    • You know, as much as i hate him for being the human equivalent of a disposable feminine cleansing product one might use on a summer’s eve, it was because of Jobey, that I came to know about the bewitchment of TPM. So in a way, thats a silver lining!

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      • I was going to say that this guy sounds like a real piece of work.

        But I guess there was a silver lining in it for you.

        So, in the end it worked out for you?

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  3. @Anonymous
    You have ended your elaborate narration of this CULT practices by questioning Shyam Sundar’s future funeral.
    What kind of truth you wish to establish or rather propagate by putting your query of funeral services of these CULT managers particularly after reading so many (420 )episodes and articles brought out by this website ?
    You’ve read so many umbilical and evil practices being followed by this CULT. FH s.
    What lesson you ‘ve learned by reading these episodes all along?
    If you wish to tell the world of believers that F.H hall conducting the funeral services is some thing to be sought after extraordinarily act, to be desired by anybody — may your wish be limited to your own surroundings.I have n’t read any ONE article from those 420 articles published by this site subscribing your lofty idea of F.H hall conducting funeral rites!
    It is natural those cars will continue

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  4. with reference to Anonymous comment,
    Corrigendum: It is natural those cars will continue—–To be corrected as– It is natural those acts will continue.
    Anonymous,there will be no surprise in these F.H activities.They keep continue their unethical acts of uplifting some and downgrading some.One rule for Clergy though they consumed medicinal tablets and underwent medical care,and at the same time apply another rule for poor believers who underwent hospital operations.
    Finally all your narration epitomizes only one thing,if the dead were given a decent chance of conducting funeral rites in the F.H hall of this CULT, it would be treated as something SUBLIME act.Is that you want to surmise?
    Rethink your own thought process once my dear.

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  5. Very good article, Admin & Team!

    The USP of all cults are their exclusive doctrines which have been revealed to their leaders and our own TPM is a classic example. Alwin and his chief monks propogated a lie and for years, this lie is so faithfully being marketed by the Thomases and Abrahams without questioning, shows how deceived they are.

    Our friends in TPM preach everything except the Gospel of Christ. I have sat through weeks of Bible study about the Gates of Jerusalem and the Temple of Solomon and about the Tabernacle but I have not heard them preach or teach the True Gospel of Jesus Christ.

    Thinking about it now, what a waste of time it was. Praise God I’m no more under the influence of these mad men.

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  6. @אבן-העזר…..:”as much as i hate him for being the human equivalent …….”

    That is why never hate the person but hate the devilish spirit in him,including the adulterers,fornicators,as long as you live in this world.You never know when that person gets saved and by whose prayers.That will be a mystery.

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  7. Hello everyone
    @ article The third and most important thing he did was, that he based his teaching on the Old Testament. He wasn’t giving something new to them which the scriptures in the Old Testament hadn’t spoken. He was making his words grounded and rooted in the testimony of the Holy Scriptures. .

    Old Testament saints not know anything about 144,000 virgin. They have zero knowledge of seven steps of salvation. That fact no. 1.

    So today I saw vision. All old testament saint in heaven looking at shock saying why not such deeper truth revealed to us? Why such mysteries were kept hidden till 1923?

    Adam eve saying to God, you told us about covering our nakedness with skin of lamb slain, – that’s ok! But you hide from us that we should live like brother sister, to go to Zion! That unfair. Wat if we lived like brother sister with super Holiness ? Today we two would be in Zion all alone. No baby born to us. No world coming out of us. No Joshua. No MT Thomas. Nobody in Zion. Only I Adam and my sister EVE ruling from Zion. But you hide this truth from us and revealed to tpm saints on 1923. That is unfair.

    Abraham crying, you called me out of my father’s house. I left my home, my father, my mother. But why you putting me in New earth and Tpm saints in Zion?

    David also crying saying to god, was not I who captured Zion from Jebusites? Why then you throw me to New heaven and give my city of Zion to tpm saints ?

    That vision of heaven I see today.

    Very tense environment in heaven because our tpm church loved by God more than gates of Jacob.

    Thank you very much.

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  8. @admin
    How do you evaluate both Old Testament saints and New Testamaent saints washed by the blood of Jesus on the same level.
    Be it is upheld by TPM or not, but one thing for sure is that O.T. saints will not receive the same place in eternal kingdom of God than the N.T. saints who has accepted Christ His savior.
    This is based on the following verse:
    “Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. Matt 11:11”
    Whats your opinion on this admin & team?

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    • @Johnson Singh
      Does the Verse you quoted say that OT Saints are lower than the NT saints? If it says so to you, it just means that you have to remove the TPM lens yet from your eyes of understanding.
      To me, what Jesus said was that The greatness of a person in the kingdom of heaven is NOT based on your greatness in this Earth or the greatness of his BIRTH. It’s as plain as that.
      Now for your consideration, please meditate on these scriptures.


      …all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. Rev 13:8


      Remember your congregation, which you have purchased of old; the tribe of your inheritance, which you have redeemed; this mount Zion, where you have dwelt. Psalm 74:2


      22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 to Jesus the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel. Heb 12:22-24


      He(Moses) regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward. Hebrews 11:26


      “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” Hebrews 13:8.


      It had a great, high wall with twelve gates, and with twelve angels at the gates. On the gates were written the names of the twelve tribes of Israel. Rev 21:12

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    • @Johnson, How does it matter which place in Eternity does OT saints ( Great cloud of witnesses) goes to.
      When a bride gets engaged to her groom, she is least bothered about where she will be taken for honeymoon. She is only happy to be with her Groom. She knows that as long as she is with her Groom, any place is bound to be the best.
      Similarly instead of worrying which level of heaven or kingdom gets assigned for you, why don’t you worry about loving, trusting, having faith and getting to know the Bridegroom intimately.
      When you do this you will notice that your eternal perspective changes.
      You will see that how self centered and selfish are the thought process of TPM clergy. They want to be in the best, the most exclusive and pearly gates which others should not have access to without a relationship with the Groom. This is JUST OPPOSITE TO WHAT CHRIST WANTED AND LAID HIS PRECIOUS LIFE FOR.
      Even Jesus said to mother of Zebedee’s children that but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
      If it is so, I suggest that it is better to avoid arguing on genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law ; for they are unprofitable and vain.
      But rather let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith ; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

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  9. A very well written article!!! I agree with you as Jesus had said “For I tell you that unless your righteousness (“Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.” Isaiah 4:3) surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers (all our righteous acts are like filthy rags; Isaiah 64:6) of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:20″

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  10. Dear Johnson Singh

    Matt 11:11 simply means that no matter how saintly a man born of women is (be it John the Baptist or anyone), he cannot enter into heaven unless he is reborn as born of Spirit. A son of Adam is flesh and flesh cannot enter heaven. The other way to say Matt 11:11 is that , “except a man be born again , he cannot see Kingdom of God (John 3:3).” This in no way means that God didn’t give new birth experience to Old Testament saints. That is tpm assumption, just like Pharisees assumed that Abraham could not have believed Jesus. When Jesus told them that Abraham believed me, they were doubtful and asked Jesus how could Abraham believed Jesus, as Jesus was not even 50 years old , while Abraham was born 2000 years before days of Jesus? They assumed (like tpm) that Abraham and OT saints cannot experience new birth as they were born before Christ.

    How come Peter said in his sermon that David was speaking about ressurection of Jesus, when there is no clear verse in his writing that tell us the new testament readers that David knew about death and resurrection of Jesus (Acts 3:31)? It only means we assume things about Old Testament. Unless Holy Spirit enlightens our eyes we will be like Pharisees and tpmites for whom Old testament is like veil.

    Please answer me following;
    1. If Abraham didn’t not had new birth experience then how come we see him sitting with new testament church ? See the verse below (Matt 8;11)… Notice the verse does not say Abraham will be given place to sit along with church, but it says gentiles coming to Christ (obviously by new birth), will be given chance to sit with Abraham. This obviously means that to Jesus, Abraham was greater than gentiles from east n west. Jesus says they will get chance to sit with prestigious man like Abraham, but Jews will be cast out.

    Matthew 8:11
    And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven.

    So what is your opinion on the above verse, as both Abraham and gentiles will sit together in heaven? How come Abraham enters heaven without new birth? To me this means that if Abraham is in heaven sitting alongside with gentiles ( coming from east west ), then it only means that either Abraham had new birth or that Matt 11:11 is not true. And Matt 11:11 cannot be untrue. Therefore God somehow gave new birth experience to Abraham.

    Let me show you that bible clearly says, that Gospel was preached to Abraham.

    Galatians 3:8
    And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

    2. Do you think God never heard the prayer of David when he prayed ” Create in me a clean heart and renew right Spirit within me (Psalms 51:10). Or did God gave a new heart n new birth experience to David?

    3. How does writer of Hebrew says things about Old Testament heroes in his chapter on faith of OT saints (Heb 11), when we cannot read anything in Old Testament? To me, only means much is known to God which we cannot read with our naked human eyes in Old Testament. All you doubts are based on your assumption of what you read in old Testament. But both old and new testament has clear indication that people in OT knew about Gospel salvation Jesus faith justification persecution heavenly city new birth and so on…

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  11. @Elina..”Very tense environment in heaven because our tpm church loved by God more than gates of Jacob.”
    You ‘ve nicely woven the story of Adam & Eve,Abraham,David etc.etc..and finally dethroning Joshua & MT from Zion .
    but while your were concluding, you made a big mess of it .
    “Very tense environment!”
    Why was it so?
    Just unthinkable a bit.
    You are sending wrong signals to your reader community that your TPM heaven consists of tension ridden things always.No peace,no joy,no love ,& no faith in your dream heaven.
    What kind of vision you ‘ve got. That’s the problem with you guys.

    “Where There Is No Vision, The People Perish” – Proverbs 29:18
    Therefore correct your vision statement,for your own good ‘am advising you
    First of all any heaven is not a place of tension filled environment.
    Do you ever find time to read GALATIANS5:19-21 in F.H life?If not just meditate those lines.
    “19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

    20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, sedition, heresies,

    21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revelings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

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    • @EE @Elina @adminfromtpm
      Hey admin!!!
      Why you guys playing these cheap games?
      Being on the same side, exhibiting yourselves like one criticizing the other (Who knows?? all the above may be the SAME PERSON(admin)… like many other commentators on this pathetic site…)
      It looks like a drunkard blabbering the previous night and correcting himself the next morning.

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  12. @ Johnson Singh,
    Why do you think O.T. saints won’t go to the same place as N.T. saints? You mean Old Testament saints are sinners because they were born before Jesus. That means your elder brother or sister in your family is bad compared to you. Therefore God is ashamed in front of them.

    Hebrews 11:16, Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

    God is not ashamed to be called their (Old Testaments Saints) God. Do you think God will have the same opinion about you and your white clad TPM frauds?

    Romans 14:9, For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

    Here Paul is very clearly saying Jesus is the Lord of both the dead and the living contrary to the heretical TPM teachings. Here dead means Old Testament people.

    1 Peter 4:5-6, 5 But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead. 6 For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to those who are now dead, so that they might be judged according to human standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit.

    Oh, TPM fanatic, shed your TPM lens as Admin suggested and read the Bible to understand it, then God will bless you.

    Moreover, what do you understand by saints? Do you think they are white clad TPM frauds? Can you show me a bible verse exclusively pointing to saints as separate category and believers are different category?

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  13. @אבן-העזר, your comment..’You know, as much as i hate him for being the human equivalent of a disposable…”

    For your info, if you do hate them that much, I would suggest that you choose your words carefully before using any form of words to describe or make reference or comparison to any genders. Its not right nor is it respectful to our readers here.

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    • If your readers are mature enough to understand the ‘Sex-ploits’ of Joshua, then I think they are also warranted to understand that I was calling him a douche. It has nothing to do with any gender. And frankly, I think I did a favour to call Jobey the “D” word by camouflaging it with the words I used to describe it.

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      • Did this person have any elder brother by the name of “Ebey Philip” who is no more? Is his dad one of the Malayalam interpreters in the 80s/90s and possibly later also in that place?

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  14. it had everything to do with gender discrimination by making a direct reference to a feminine product, as you had commented above. Joshua was exposed in playing the hypocrite & hiding his sins while exploiting the Singapore tpm believers. You are being insensitive with your remarks of making unnecessary references. Remember that the word of God says to hate the works of the Nicolaitans but never hate the person..(Rev 2:6) & also to treat “Older women as mothers, younger women as sisters, in all purity.(1 Tim 5:2)

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  15. Gospel of fromtpm
    Spread hate, vengeance and enmity
    Created more weeds and destroy the good crop as harvesting is near.
    Well done and you will be rewarded accordingly

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    • Yes you are somewhat right Bro.
      Isn’t a good thing to spread hate, vengeance and enemity against the counterfeit doctrines, non-scriptural traditions and enemies of the cross of Christ.
      On being a weed or good crop is all in your hands to decide.

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    • @I am TPM Fanatic from Singapore…well said, I think fromtpm.com would take your comment as a compliment.

      The most critical step in a battle is to “Know your enemy”. Unfortunately discernment is a virtue which is absent in most TPM believers and the ones who have them are no more in TPM but fromtpm.

      Hope one day your eyes are also opened and you are set free from TPM’s bondage into the glorious liberty that is in Christ Jesus! May God have mercy on you!

      BTW, looks like TPM’s Sinsex is trending southwards, and you might be feeling the pinch of reduced collection or shall we say harvest.

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    • @I am TPM Fanatic from Singapore:

      Your name says it all. Don’t be a fanatic for TPM or any other church, but be a fanatic for Jesus and His gospel.

      If exposing the corrupt life of your pastor is “spreading hate, vengeance, and enmity” according to you, then so be it.

      If you are under the illusion that your pastor Joshua has nurtured some “good crop” in the Singapore fake home which this website is attempting to destroy, you are perhaps not applying the Bible as the standard for your judgment.

      Please be informed that this website is exposing and destroying weeds like Joshua in Christendom to save the “good crop” as harvest time is very near.

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  16. really? speaking truth & exposing wickedness in the churches is equivalent to spreading hate?..@tpm fanatic, you are surely looking at everything from the tpm lens as we had been mentioning from the start, if only you could read & understand the message & gospel of christ in its true light, you would see that truth & love goes hand in hand, esp true in the context of these days of harvest, before its too late, let one & all examine their consciences before He comes in his glory to judgment wickedness.

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  17. @”Spread hate, vengeance and enmity
    Created more weeds and destroy the good crop as harvesting is near.
    Well done and you will be rewarded accordingly”

    Wonderful sarcasm of the highest order!

    Did you not understand my friend why did the Lord has permitted to close all your 2020 year round calendar schedule of your convention meets that go through out the world that wherever your CULT spread its wings?
    Where were you when this TPM CULT propagated its false theories and un-biblical doctrines
    that SALVATION is not necessarily possible only through Jesus but through them?
    This is the greatest crime that your CULT managers have committed and they ‘ve never repented for it.
    Do you know they hoodwink the innocent believer group of young and old by publishing the un biblical stuff of SUNDAY SCHOOL syllabus books and the wrong testimonies in the VOICE OF PENTECOST magazine its favorite mouth piece like SAMNA of shivsena and thus make them prey for all its ill conceived doctrines of 7 steps of salvation?Where was it written in the Scriptures about this 7 steps of salvation??Could you please enlighten me?

    Did you ever read the false theories of DISPENSATIONS spread by the TPM CULT managers?

    If you think this is the gospel of TPM,be it so,God will bring justice to every act of this CULT one by one.

    Did you ever ponder over in the end times of 20 th &21st centuries especially in the church age — “Why is God going to send a strong delusion?

    My friend, the Bible makes it very clear why God is sending a strong delusion in the end times: “They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness”
    (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12).
    God sends a strong delusion to those who choose not to believe the gospel of Christ. Those who take delight in mocking and rejecting Him, He will condemn.This is being manifested all over the world right before eyes, thanks be to gospel of TPM being spread right from 1923 onwards.
    Now it is reaping its fruits for all its efforts my dear friend.
    Wait for some more days.More judgement scenes will be there to witness right before your eyes.
    So whats’ the solution for all these ills?

    “Repent,and come back to the Lord ” before it is too late.
    This is the gist of all these 421 EPISODES that you find in this website.
    In fact you must be grateful to this site which is magnanimous in letting your sarcastic views known in these columns.

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