There is an old saying that “Great minds think alike, but fools seldom differ.” It is basically a sarcasm. “Great minds think alike” is what fools say to make them and the other fools feel smart. But in reality, they are fools who have come to the same conclusions. The true meaning of the phrase is in the second part of the phrase –“FOOLS SELDOM DIFFER”. This is what happens when fools visit fromtpm.com. They all begin to think alike. Without reading the whole website, they draw conclusions that this website is for mudslinging TPM. But bible calls such people fools. They refuse correction and hate reproof (Proverbs 12:1, 15:5, 13:18).
Whoso loves instruction loves knowledge: but he that hates reproof is brutish
Prov 12:1
Let the righteous smite me; it shall be a kindness: and let him reprove me; it shall be an excellent oil, which shall not break my head……..
Psalm 141:5
We have received an email. We have decided to give its response in the form of an article. This is done so that people may profit from the response. Here is the mail.
The e-mail from a reader
Dear Admin,
I am not for TPM neither am I from TPM but I belong to Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. A friend of mine ask my opinion of the write ups in the net and ask for my comments. After reading through the write ups Fromtpm.com I realize that as genuine Christian we would not go on a rampage like as written in all your articles about TPM.
Today its TPM, tomorrow could be my church the AG, Methodist, Lutheran and many other denominations.
My question is, “Are we building the Kingdom of God or destroying the name of Jesus amongst the Hindus, Muslims and Buddhist in our blind zeal without knowledge”?
I remember the verse in Matthew 12:26 “If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand?”
On the other hand the Bible states in Galatians 6:1-3 (NIV) “Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.
The various accounts posted by your team seems to be one sided but there is always two side to a coin which you have overlooked as a true Christian group and published only one side only. Praying as a third party that in this perilous times of Covid19 we would consider to build up the kingdom of God as Galatians reminds us in 5:14,15 “For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”“ If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.”
Hope this sincere findings as a fellow Christian will make us live in peace with one another and make this world a better place to live in.
Hope to receive honest reply from you.
God bless.
Our Response
Dear Friend,
Please do not try to sound neutral by saying that you do not belong to TPM. That is how all TPM Believers try to correspond with us. It is immaterial for us. Our responses are in the blue box.
Point 1
I realize that as genuine Christian we would not go on a rampage like as written in all your articles about TPM.
Dear XYZ (we have removed your identity, although we know it is not your real name). Our articles exposing devilish acts of TPM godmen are like a drop in the ocean. It is not a rampage! Rampage is what TPM workers have been doing from past 90 years (behind the walls of TPM). We have not uploaded videos, audio clips and many other things. TPM fraudmen have been hiding their true lives and projecting false image about themselves since decades. Do you have any idea of how strange truth is than fiction? Do you have any idea of how many people have been emotionally and physically tortured inside faith home under the disguise of punishment? How many have been killed and sexually abused? Do you have a problem with them who expose evil, but not them who actually do evil things? Why don’t you tell TPM workers to stop projecting themselves as larger than life, extraordinary men and women, and we would stop exposing their works of darkness! If they stop acting hypocritically then we will stop exposing their evil. Jesus exposed religious Pharisees who were hypocrites, but he didn’t expose those who accepted that they were common human being capable of sin. We would love to follow Christ. Those who follow Christ are true Christians. Here is an example of the hypocrisy of one of your saints. See this WhatsApp text of Joshua sending New Month Promise.
Even after getting caught and publicly exposed, he is still projecting himself as someone who received the Word of God, as a promise from God to people. What a hypocrite liar? Did he send a WhatsApp message of apology to all believers in wake of what has surfaced on the internet?
Point 2
You said, “I realize that as genuine Christian, we should not go on rampage… “
That is your assumption. Bible does not support your assumption. Bible asks us to rebuke Christians openly so that they sin not.
Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear (I Timothy 5:20).
11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light.
Eph 5:11-13
Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him (Lev 19:17).
Why do you think God in the Old Testament gave a commandment to stone sinners publicly? Why do you think God smote Ananias and Sapphira in the congregation? It is that others may fear. Listen to the words of Jesus himself,
15. Moreover, if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother.
16. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.
17. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Matt 18:15-17
In Joshua’s case, the victim sister had been asking him privately for three years to correct his stance and marry her as he was promising her for many years. Then she took the matter privately to in-charge worker sister (Sharon). Then she took the matter to Sister Kumari in IBR (one level up the hierarchy). When Joshua didn’t repent still, we wrote a private mail, asking for clearance from him (we wanted a private apology from him). Had he apologized we wouldn’t have made an article about him. We sent a copy to IBR also. It is only when TPM workers neglected, at local and headquarters level, we took the matter to the entire TPM church present in every part of the earth, on this public platform, in accordance to Matthew 18:17. You should note that the TPM church is not a local assembly. It has wide audience spread in various continents. The best way to speak to church members is through the internet.
Point 3
You said, “ “My question is, “Are we building the Kingdom of God or destroying the name of Jesus amongst the Hindus, Muslims and Buddhist in our blind zeal without knowledge”?”
You better ask this question to writers of the bible why did they write a written record of wrongdoings of its heroes? Start with Genesis and end with New Testament. Why did Moses write about the disobedience of Adam, deception of Eve, blaming they did on each other and serpent, murdering of Abel by Cain, Noah’s drinking wine and lying naked, Abraham’s lying about his wife, Lot’s fornication with his daughters, murmuring of Israelites in the wilderness, disobedience of Moses by striking the rock when God had asked him to speak to it, sins of judges of Israel, sins of Saul, David, Solomon, and rest of the kings who came after them? Why did God send prophets to Israelites to rebuke them of their sins and why did God ensure they wrote a written copy of their idolatry to be read by thousands of people for thousands of years? Why did Jesus rebuke Pharisees openly? Why did Apostles write about the woes which Jesus cursed upon Pharisees? Why did Apostle Paul write mistakes of churches in all his letters and New Testament books? Why does Paul mention that he rebuked Peter before all? Why did John Rebuke Diotrephes? Why did Apostle John write the shortcomings of seven churches?
You better ask all these bible writers whether they were building the Kingdom of God or were they destroying the name of Jesus among Hindus, Muslims and Buddhists? As per your rationale, we should remove these pages from the bible and the give it to Hindus and Muslims! Have you become wiser than God?
Ask yourself whether you are erring in not following Jesus and Apostles and all the writers of the Bible, when you try to hide the sins of these wicked men who make false tall claims before innocent people. Ask whether your zeal to protect the name of your organizations and churches is biblical or your own creation? Ask yourself whether you are building the kingdom of God or your own respective kingdoms, when you name your organizations as AG, Methodists, IPC, TPM, etc. etc?
Point 4
You said, on the other hand the Bible states in Galatians 6:1-3 (NIV) “Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.
As you said we should not be one-sided. We have already quoted a few verses in the bible where are asked to publicly rebuke them who get caught in sin. As we have told you, we first tried to one to one private conversation with the accused. Up to this point, we think we were following Galatians 6:1-3. However when TPM purposely neglected to correct itself, then we were forced to go to Matthew 18:15-17, & I Timothy 5:20.
Conclusion
Dear email writer (male or female or one who belongs to TPM or otherwise),
Do you still want to take a ride on the ship which is full of fools who hate correction and reproof? I hope after reading our response, you will stop behaving differently to biblical authors and the apostles of Jesus Christ. I hope you will start correcting Christianity (TPM, AG, Methodists, Lutherans, etc). This is how the prophets behaved in the bible – proclaiming evil works for people to correct. Only lying prophets speak honey-coated comforting words.
//Hope this sincere findings as a fellow Christian will make us live in peace with one another and make this world a better place to live in//.
When I read this Mat 11:34 (Think not that I am come to send peace on earth : I came not to
send peace, but a sword )..came to my mind.
TPM truly is a life of adjustment as this person claims.
Hope Joshua realises that the right hand of God which saves …shall also find out all His enemies and His right hand shall find out those that hate Him (Ps 21:8).
Good fitting response Admin.
Dear Joshua Thiagrajan,
The Center Pastor of TPM and an anointed man,
@ your text message
Which god has asked you to send the promise of this month to believers ?
Is it the same god who asked you to take stamina pills ?
Kindly let us know whether you want people to known more about the stamina pills? Is it ok with you if we put that evidence on website? Get in touch with your chief pastors and let us know soon. Or stop fooling people of Singapore, Indonesia and Hongkong about your teachings of divine healing. Don’t you realise how much you are affecting people of Singapore by asking them to refrain from medicines? Amidst this covid-19 crisis do you stil persist with your idea of divine healing, so that you can continue taking stamina pills, and people of singapore die without consuming medicine?
Dear Admin
What a befitting reply to the mail writer. There are so many fools like him riding on the ship full of fools. Only difference is, this person has come out with a mail and others are gnashing teeth on us among themselves. Some one said that, “It’s easier for God to change a sincere sinner than a hypocrite saint.”
I came across an audio of a preacher who was talking about cult and idol worship. He told that one can identify that a cult is doing idol worship by testing them in the following two steps:
1. Tell them something against Christ they will forgive and remain silent.
2. Tell them something about their idol and they will come out all guns blazing. ( In RC try telling something against Mary and in TPM try telling something against their idol- The white Clad Clergy , response will be same)
No wonder a faithful laity of TPM has taken the pain to call for HIDING THE ILLICIT DEEDS OF HIS IDOL. But where do these faithfuls disappear when so many DOCTRINAL ISSUES of TPM are raised in this site. But I am not surprised coz an average TPM Believer is more interested in gossips rather than doctrine and things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
Its a great war going on now indeed, a great spiritual battle —Whats more baffling is while Apostle Paul says that his fight was not meant with the flesh and blood ( FOR WE WRESTLE NOT WITH FLESH AND BLOOD—- Ephe 6:12),where as we are being forced to literally wrestle day and ight with our own spiritual brethren. We patiently pray and hope wise counsel dawns on them that they will eventually understand and reconcile to the facts and TRUTHS what this site has been delivering to them 24X7.
April 2020 Promise from Joshua …
April Fool …
This is a ‘April Fools’ prank (message) by Joshua to all the TPM members!
It’s also a mockery of the all the set social practices and of the outside world.
These guys are so much drunk with power (of money, property, position, connections, longevity in mission) that they are least bothered with consequences of any nature.
What is the difference between this guy and Kuldip Sengar famous for ‘Unnao rape’ case (refer – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuldeep_Singh_Sengar)? The only difference is the plaintiff is not murdered.
In our office, once a male employee asked for a female employee’s phone no. saying, “lets’ be friends”. The other day, on disciplinary grounds, he was sent out of employment. This is the level at which world treats sexual harassment. See how shamelessly and with confidence, Joshua sends April Fools message. Further worse is the TPM leadership’s response to the incident.
There are notice boards put at common places in our office, which states that even if a male employee’s looks (gaze) disturbs a female employee, she can complain to HR and HR will take prompt action. Now juxtapose with Joshua’s harassment/ cheating case; where is the justice for the sister?
In Proverbs 30:20, we meet an adulterous woman and experience her behaviour. TPM believers, please see the similarity with the above incident.
All of us, in certain part of our life, go through situations wherein we are completely helpless and desperately seek others’ help. Situation could be physical, mental, very personal, economical, social etc. As Christians, it is but natural to seek the clergy’s support during such times. This is how we have been brought up. In ‘Pilgrim’s Progress’, it is the Evangelist, the religious man who puts Christian (central character) on the path to the Celestial city.
In this kind of situation, instead of helping the believers, if the clergy takes undue advantage of the situation, whom should the believer go to?
Admin through ‘FromTPM.com’ is doing a distinguished service in bringing out the skeletons out of TPM graveyard. Also, this kind of incidences will definitely be happening in other TPM branches but which go un-reckoned as many believers are not strong enough to withstand the pressure (or even raise their voice). Particularly, believers from financially poor background, or where TPM clergy thinks that a particularly family is weak to oppose are the most vulnerable. Worst are the sisters in missionary; no one knows what they are going through?
If Joshua has so must guts to send the monthly message even after his face has been darkened, it means, he is already a veteran in surfing through such situations.
By veteran, I mean, he would have done the same with other female believers, worker sisters and escaped. He knows, “Even, this shall pass”!
All of us know the truth about Babas in India; Joshua, other TPM brothers and Pastors are no different from them. Let’s be careful, lest be sorrowful later!!
Stamina Pills !. What are these?
Quite a new revelation from this man’s own congregation.
Obviously this is yet another startlling objective evidence.
This is the humble appeal to the whole of SINGAPORE congregation.In view of this objective evidence that has surfaced out, think seriously your whole Clergy has been now affected with this virus (not COVID-19) because of this one person.This peculiar virus coupled with stamina pills is much more severe than that presennt virus that is invading the whole globe.
Therefore be mindful, be vigilant and be watchful, the whole S’pore laity will be affected soon.Even at any moment,the S’pore govt will come to know about this new virus. So before that happens take care of yourselves brethren.
May be this kind of appeal may not see the light again.
@//This is how the prophets behaved in the bible – proclaiming evil works for people to correct. Only lying prophets speak honey-coated comforting words.//(conclusion part of the article)
The above article clinically examined the claims of the anonymous sender who was replied with a befitting notes under blue box para by para without mincing any words. For example Point no 2,the befitting reply went like this:
//We sent a copy to IBR also. It is only when TPM workers neglected, at local and headquarters level, we took the matter to the entire TPM church present in every part of the earth, on this public platform, in accordance to Matthew 18:17.//
This is highly laudable reply from ADMN brother..
Now 4 months are passed and the 5 th month is soon to be entered since the article was published. Meanwhie very significant things happened.
On 18 APRIL ’20 Sis Kumari, the Voice of TPM at IBR,and on 15 th AUGUST’20 another Sis. Ruth(of S’pore f.h) left this world within the span of 4 months. Observe the dates very closely.
S’pore f.h is in shambles.Its clergy is under quarantine as reports say.
In spite of these latest developments,this BEAST is ‘LOOKING AHEAD’.it is giving a brave face to the outsiders.
It is very interesting to see that VOP of SEPT’20,just recd today,I found in the magazine last page caption” “LOOKING AHEAD”
But it has an unusual closing greetings.
”With love and prayers,”
Yours in His service,
PASTOR ABRAHAM MATHEW.
If one finds his tone and tenor in his appeal,there is a stoic silence he maintains as if everything is fine with his CULT.
Let him read Suniraash’s comments and other anonymous people who are pouring in this site.
Strangely AM asks for a prayer request in his concluding remarks: “Let us pray that God might prevent the tensions that prevail between China and the USA.The God of peace shall bruise Satan under our feet shortly”Looks like he wants to become a world leader
Quite strange appeal from his side!
What a great vision and future plans he has got.
In Matthew 23:27,the Bible says” Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men’s bones, and of all uncleanness.”
May I request ADMN brother to bring the other contents of the appeal so that the ‘whited sepulchres’ could be seen more vividly.
dear Admin.
Fantastic job u r doing exposing this cult.
My parents, unfortunately, are stuck in this bloody cult.
They do not listen to me or my sisters who advise them on the dangers of this cult.
I pray n hope they will be delivered from this cult and save their souls in the final hours.
I will gladly support ur efforts to take this cult to face the laws of the countries they operate in. My mobile number is +60113372 3401 (Malaysian mobile). Please whatsapp me and i will join this crusade to bring this satanic church to hell.