Not surprisingly, our TPM Fanatics have no reply to the questions raised in the last article. I still am waiting.
If there is any point that TPM and fromtpm.com agree regarding this vision, then it is regarding the identity of the woman and the dragon. However, after that position, we do not have any point of convergence with TPM. We do not even agree to the nature of the Church representing the woman. TPM Believes in a dispensational theory which has no support in the Bible. According to them, the Church Began in AD 32. We do not subscribe to that view. Click here to know why we do not subscribe to that view.
Who is the Church(The Woman)?
We believe that the Church of God is an assembly of Humans that are “called out” from ALL people that includes Jews and Gentiles. We also believe that the people constituting the Church includes people who are physically died and is resting in the Lord. For eg. I consider my grandmom, who died a few years ago to be an active member of the church of God, even though physically she is not with us. This huge entity of “called out people” who have physically died OR is present on the earth OR yet to be born on earth is called Zion and Heavenly Jerusalem.
As long as we think the church in terms of Organizations like TPM or Church Buildings, we will miss the point.
The Composite Nature of the Church- The Woman
This Heavenly Jerusalem and Zion are called by Paul as our Mother. He also says that we all are her children not by physical procreation but by adoption.
26 But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. 27 For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath a husband. Gal 4:26-27
This concept is reiterated in Isaiah and also Hebrews 2
18 Behold, I and the children whom the Lord hath given me are for signs and for wonders in Israel from the Lord of hosts, which dwelleth in mount Zion. Isa 8:18
Therefore, even though the woman is identified as a single entity, it is a composite entity of each one of us portrayed wholly into the Woman.
The Time Span of the Vision
Our Existence on this earth is to be compared to a huge “Team relay race”. There are those that have departed after they ran their part of the race. They are now standing in the witness stand watching our race. They handed over the Baton to us in this present age and if the Lord Tarries, we will hand over the baton to successive generations to carry forward.
Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, 2 looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb 12:1-2
On a spiritual level, we are seated in heavenly places(Eph 2:6)and we are in the presence of the Global Church of God. We are enrolled in Heaven.
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, 23 and to the assembly[a] of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, 24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood that speaks a better word than the blood of Abel. Heb 12:22-24
Towards the end of this age, the last batch of the Woman(The Church) will be on this earth running the last lap of the relay race. This last lap team is identified as the “Remnant” or “rest of the Offspring”
Therefore we have to understand that this vision as a very long video of events unfolding for many centuries since the Creation of Man. It is not a photographic snapshot.
The Pregnancy of the Woman and the Promised Man Child
We are told in the chapter that the Woman is Pregnant. We should, therefore, assume that the pregnancy of the woman is visible in the vision as a bulge.
2 and she was with child; and she *cried out, being in labour and in pain to give birth. Rev 12:2
In biblical terms, pregnancy is identified as the EXPECTED PROMISE DELIVERY(2 Kings 4:16, Gen 18:10). It is the period from “the point the promise is made to the time it is delivered“. As days pass by, the reality of the delivery of the promise becomes very pronounced. This can be equated to the pregnancy of a woman where everybody is aware that the day of her delivery is near, seeing the size of her belly. And this promise is regarding a special child which we identify as the “MAN CHILD”.
Let us go back to the place where the conception of the Promise (Pregnancy start) happened.
And I will put enmity between thee and THE WOMAN, and between thy seed and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Gen 3:15
After the conception in Gen 3, we can see various instances where the bulge of the pregnancy was visible. Some verses identifying the bulge of the pregnancy are as follows. These verses identify the Man Child who would come out in due time. Note that all these verses correlate to the Rulership(Rev 12:5) he gets in the form of the Rod of Iron(Sceptre).
- The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Gen 49:10
- Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter’s vessel. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. Psalm 2:9,12
- The LORD will extend your mighty sceptre from Zion, saying, “Rule in the midst of your enemies!” Psalm 110:2
- For to us, a child is born, to us, a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isa 9:6
- “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, whose origins are from of OLD, from ANCIENT TIMES.“ Micah 5:2
Clearly the Man Child with the Sceptre which was promised to come is none other than our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords. We also know that the word “Man Child“, is another Word for SON by which we identify the second person of Trinity.
This fulfilment of promise happened in due time. Note the wordings of Paul and it correlates to the delivery after a pregnancy.
4 But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, 5 To redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. Gal 4:4-5
Why God Became Man?
Even though Mother Heavenly Jerusalem have billions of children, the pregnancy and birth of this particular “Man Child” is the centre point of the vision. One Reason why this Child is referred to as “MAN Child” is to identify that this Child has a HUMAN NATURE. This correlates with the “Incarnation of God the Son” where God takes a Human Form and enter the human race BY BIRTH.
Even though you might have understood the scriptural correlation of Jesus being the Man Child of the Human Church. You might be wondering WHY? You might question the fact why did Eternal God have to be born to the Woman Entity.
For that, we need to turn to Hebrews 2:14-18
14 Since therefore the children share in flesh and blood, he himself likewise partook of the same things, that through death he might destroy the one who has the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and deliver all those who through fear of death were subject to lifelong slavery. 16 For surely it is not angels that he helps, but he helps the offspring of Abraham. 17 Therefore he had to be made like his brothers in every respect so that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in the service of God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For because he himself has suffered when tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.
In the above statement, we understand the need for God to become a man to partake in the human nature of the other children of Mother Jerusalem who is also identified as the Offspring of Abraham. Redemption of ManKind is only possible if God also becomes Man. Hence he had to be Born as a MAN CHILD.
Therefore, holy brothers and sisters, who share in the heavenly calling, fix your thoughts on Jesus, whom we acknowledge as OUR apostle and high priest. Heb 3:1
He became One with Us and was made One of US – THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS (1 Tim 3:16)
That is why in the Early Church, it was a creedal statement to believe the incarnation of God as Man. If anybody does not have that belief, he was considered to have the spirit of Anti Christ.
“And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ HAS COME(denotes his pre-existence) IN THE FLESH(Human Form) is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” 1 John 4:3
The Son of Man Concept – Man Child
In the Book of Revelation, John is identifying this SON OF MAN (MAN CHILD) as the Almighty God who will come in the Clouds of heaven to rule the Earth with his Rod of Iron.
7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Rev 1:7-8
15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. Rev 19:15
Now that we have clearly mentioned the understanding of the
- Her Pregnancy and
- the Man Child,
You should compare with the TPM interpretation of these things.
I was reading through a TPM Publication called “An Exposition of the book of Revelation” chapter 12 and had a great time of amusement at the way they are trying to rush towards their conclusion. As they had already identified the entities to prepare their pet doctrines, they are labouring hard in travail much more than the Woman, to bring out their interpretation of the Man Child. Check out the below screenshots and see how they are reasoning for a “Select Group(Their white clads)” where the scripture does not identify any of that kind. They are taking the definition of a Global all-encompassing church in Col 3:11 and saying that is the Man Child that comes out of the Woman.
Interestingly Rev 12:11 is martyrdom of the church people and has got nothing to do with the pseudo rapture they claim in Rev 12:5. But the TPM Theologians are so confused that they have to take the support of Rev 12:11 to even try to support their flawed theory.
Did you expect a better interpretation from a group of people who is hell-bent to replace Christ and Holy Spirit with themselves?
Do you now realise the Source of this interpretation that is in TPM? Yes, it is that of the ANTICHRIST.
If anyone does not love the Lord, let that person be cursed! Come, Lord! 1 Cor 16:22
to be continued…