Do you know TPM worker sisters in India cannot wear a half-sleeved blouse in Sunday meeting? Why? Because TPM rules prohibit them from doing so! According to their claims, the uniform of workers is so designed by revelation, that they leave not even an inch of the body to be visible, to become a temptation for others. Not even brothers can sit in meetings, with their legs visible an inch above toes. They consider this blasphemy to the holy presence of God if the human body part is visible during meeting hours. Now when the same sister is transferred to the United States or Canada, she is made to wear a skirt. That which is blasphemy to Holy God in India, it is excusable in the United States.

Take another example. A small brother cannot travel in AC train. Ac travel is a life of comfort and sinful. But a pastor can travel in AC train. It is not a sin in the pastor’s case. A sin for one is the norm for another. Take one more example. A pastor can use pictured diagram and charts to explain bible studies to people, but a junior cannot use them, because if any junior desires to explain himself with visual charts, he will be labelled as a proud fellow. The pastor will call him and say “See the pride in you! Do you want to become a celebrity?” He will be punished and prohibited from preaching from the next meeting onwards. Using chart diagram is sin for the junior minister, but the pastor can use charts and become the celebrity.

Do not have two differing weights in your bag–one heavy, one light. Deut 25:13

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East-West standards of measurement 

We have exposed double standards of TPM

We have also shown you their hypocrisy numerous times. However, one category of double standards measurement which needs emphasis is the difference between east and west rules of TPM. Double standard rules of perfection for people in India and western nations need to be brought to the notice of the general community.

Sin in IndiaThe norm in the USA, Canada etc
If you have entered TPM ministry, and feel like obeying 1 Corinthians 7:9, you will be charged with the crime of violating consecration. You cannot marry. and continue a married life in TPM.In the United States, you can marry and also you can bear children in the faith home.
It is sinful, unholy for workers to let even an inch of body parts, arms legs, visible to human eyes.Sisters wear skirts in the USA.
No flowers, no decoration. It is abominationFloral decorations are part of their weddings and funerals etc
Clothes must be white. Coloured clothing means you will not get raptured. Man being married cannot wear a coat or blazer for his own marriage. His marriage will not be solemnized in coat and blazer.Even chief pastors wear jet black clothes. They can dress like supermodels of Raymonds in suite boot and tie.
Much boasting is made about wine given in single cup during communion. They say it is one blood and all must drink from the same cup.In the US and other countries, each individual is given a separate cup to drink wine during the Lord’s table.
Sisters lead song. Believers cannot raise a voice above the sister’s choir.Believers choir leads worship through songs.
Pastor sits facing the audience on the podium (raised platform). He cannot sit with normal believers.Pastor sits in the front row with his back against believers. He gets to face believers and on the podium only during the sermon time.
Saturday night fast is a compulsion. A sign of a true believer is one who attends tarrying meeting and keeps fast on Saturday night.No compulsory fast on Saturday nights.


In the book of Micah, God questions children of Israel saying, Shall I consider them holy who use double standards of weight and measurements (Micah 6:11 paraphrased)? Double standards are an abomination in sight of God (Proverbs 20:23). A person with a double standard of measurement has two different measuring stick for the same thing. He weighs one kg of flour as 1 kg sometimes, and 2 kg at other times. Such people are not considered as holy or pure in the sight of God. TPM ministers fall in the same category. Rich and powerful can wear anything, can do anything, can murder, can do sodomy, can do witchcraft, can go to the doctor and so. They will be given grace and forgiven. The Poor and weak of TPM society will, however, be given no relaxation. They will be surely punished for transgression to TPM commandments. A pig from the rich will be swallowed, but flies of the poor will be filtered by these blind guides (Matt 23:24).


  1. A timely EPISODE for further exposing the double standard of this frauds.
    One type of scale was used for EX-NAGPUR centre pastor who is presently in Secunderabad centre for his alleged production of doctor’s certificate in order to extricate himself from the criminal cases and to hoodwink the COURT JURY, But at the same time another scale was used for another pr. JACOB WILLIAMS for whatever crime ( which was hidden) he committed against a believer bible reading sister in TONDIARPET branch, that he was openly asked for pardon before all the church gathering in that branch. This is another clear cut example of the double standard being followed by this fraudulent organization. This truth is very well known within TAMILNADA circle.The stanch supporting believer group of JACOB WILLLIAMS did not allow this truth to come out. But anyway TRUTH is TRUTH that comes as a LIGHT, no darkness can hide it.If it is hidden with a mask the glow may be stopped but when once the mask is removed the LIGHT glows again.
    This site has been repeatedly exposing the WITCHCRAFT activity within walls going around with the very names exposed like JYOTHI RANI, but little was done except the name changing activity of the beast.I shall be obliging to send a video if the READER community wish to watch it . more than two million have crossed which has become viral (more than two million have crossed )to the whole world that TELUGU muslim converted woman from KHAMMAM christian church (by name Sister SYDA BEE ), Heaven is now rejoicing as I pen these news to this site that Sr. SYDA BEE has definitely glorified the name of GOD the ALMIGHTY more than all of us ,leave alone these Centre Mothers/Elder Sisters of this MISSION SOCIETY CHURCH. Sr SYDA BEE is considered more humble and honest in the sight of heaven when she was seen reciting the the whole of 31 chapters of PROVERBS of BIBLE. With what kind of tittles/honours( like Ginneys book of records or whatever or nobel peace prizes, limca book of records) we can honour her?Even if she is honoured , it will be counted still less only. That is the power of the WORD OF GOD.A poor educated lady recites HIM,HIS WORD non stop for almost 84 minutes!!!!!!

    • Did JW finally join back ? Came across some comments / messages that he joined back and went / going to Srilanka with Pr Jeyam .

    • Eagles eye,
      I’m from Khammam, I didn’t get what exactly you conveyed about who is Syda bee and what’s her act I want to let my parents know about these and can bring them out

  2. That this beloved Sister SYDA BEE is considered more humble and honest than the utterances of these sisters who claimed to have gone to hell and watched the horrible things in it in their trances.

  3. Well our fraud Jose Gilbert seen gyrating to this action song video by some eastern students or believers at Banglore about double standards of worship…Selvaraj also used to do these kind of antics…

    • Look at the face of pastor or elder standing before mic. So arrogant look on his face. There is no smile, no grace, on his face.

    • Praise lord, At least Junior Pastor is joyfull for the song with his smiles. Such people can change the system. Must be a hospital staff/students fellowship. Praise jesus for wonderfull worship by the students.

  4. @Bunny says: April 4, 2019 at 3:38 pm
    Dear Eye’s Eye could you please share the link of Sis. SYDA BEE.

    Sure Bunny dear ,will do that,so happy to see this request

    from you

  5. Admin, Excellent comparison between Zion East and Zion West. It is important that the hypocrisy and double standards of TPM/NTC/NCPC/UPC are always kept in the limelight to allow the readers to make their own judgement. The TPM bakth will close his eyes and get on with their TPM worship but the seekers will rethink their positions and hopefully by the Grace of God will be saved from this delusion.
    The leaders of this cult are endowed with a forked tongue just like their father, Satan, the father of all lies. Their success depends on how well they can deceive the masses using the Word of God. They have been doing this for the last 90 years and they will continue to do so as long as God allows them.
    In the process, they are leading thousands of lazy men and women to hell fulfilling the desire of their father. TPM’s doctrines are built on the dreams of a liar and pervert, Alwyn and his successors, the chief pastors have shamelessly continued selling his lies. These are shameless false shepherds with only one goal – the preservation and expansion of the kingdom of TPM. What they don’t realise is that they are just expanding the kingdom of their father, the Devil.
    The Lord’s brother Jude describes these false teachers and their eternal destination in his epistle,
    Jude 1: 8-16 (NLT)
    8 In the same way, these people—who claim authority from their dreams—live immoral lives, defy authority, and scoff at supernatural beings.[c]9 But even Michael, one of the mightiest of the angels,[d] did not dare accuse the devil of blasphemy, but simply said, “The Lord rebuke you!” (This took place when Michael was arguing with the devil about Moses’ body.) 10 But these people scoff at things they do not understand. Like unthinking animals, they do whatever their instincts tell them, and so they bring about their own destruction. 11 What sorrow awaits them! For they follow in the footsteps of Cain, who killed his brother. Like Balaam, they deceive people for money. And like Korah, they perish in their rebellion.
    12 When these people eat with you in your fellowship meals commemorating the Lord’s love, they are like dangerous reefs that can shipwreck you.[e] They are like shameless shepherds who care only for themselves. They are like clouds blowing over the land without giving any rain. They are like trees in autumn that are doubly dead, for they bear no fruit and have been pulled up by the roots. 13 They are like wild waves of the sea, churning up the foam of their shameful deeds. They are like wandering stars, doomed forever to blackest darkness.
    14 Enoch, who lived in the seventh generation after Adam, prophesied about these people. He said, “Listen! The Lord is coming with countless thousands of his holy ones 15 to execute judgment on the people of the world. He will convict every person of all the ungodly things they have done and for all the insults that ungodly sinners have spoken against him.”[f]
    16 These people are grumblers and complainers, living only to satisfy their desires. They brag loudly about themselves, and they flatter others to get what they want.

    I wish and pray that they repent.

  6. It’s not even man cannot wear even coloured suites for wedding in the east and “can” wear in the west. It’s more like MUST wear. In fact if believers are asked to do any ‘ministry’ in the TPM churches overseas like singing, playing music, ushering etc., they MUST wear suites or at least nice shirt, dark coloured pant with a tie otherwise they can’t do ministry.
    Even for any uniformed display of TPM church “parties” in the west like children performing for singing, the dress code these TPM frauds give is “it has to be light coloured shirt and dark coloured pants (preferably black) for boys and black skirts for girls. Most cars they own over here in Australia in the faith aka fake homes are either black or dark coloured blue etc.,

    When I confronted the brother in charge of why these double standards (who actually just arrived overseas from wearing the white jibba in TPM India to wearing black raymond suite and tie, hush puppies shoes, and carries a recent model of iPhone on landing in Pacific TPM church), he plainly said “we have to live like how they say ‘ in Rome you have to become a Roman”. Well, I can’t find the reference for that anywhere in the Bible.
    It’s a mockery, and it’s pathetic that some gullible believers and equally arrogant ones like Vik G keep a blind eye to all this

    • Verghese –

      I am not blind to this.
      I’ve actually seen senior pastors in the US wearing colored clothes.

      Never really been interested in checking the source of materials for the TPM workers’fashion, but I will take your word for it that it was a Raymond suit and Hush Puppies shoes.

      I actually understand why there is a difference in the dress codes between east and west.
      There is actually no hypocrisy as you claim – just common sense.

      I could write a whole page on it, but it would be indigestible for you.
      Plus – if I explained it to you and you actually understood it, then that would take the fun out of arguing with you. Wouldn’t it?

      • oh dear Vik, please write a whole page so that it will enlighten all the readers. Maybe I’m missing something having lived and attended TPM in four continents.

        • Oh no!

          I am not worthy of that honour.

          But mostly because it would take all the fun out of the argument.
          (Especially, if Verghese and the others get their head around it).

          If you’ve lived on four continents and still haven’t figured it out, then there’s no amount of writing that will enlighten you my friend.

          I’ll just go back to “repeating my ptls” for you…

      • Dear Vik,

        Don’t you see that this is the double standard that we are discussing? Is it common sense in the west to wear coloured clothes, whereas it is evil to do so in the east?? Give me a break. Of course, clothing styles and the kind of clothes vary in different geographies. But to condemn it and shaming others for wearing something that is not to your preference is wrong. If you need to reinforce some order, set a decency code across the organisation( this means all over the world!!). Let everything be decent and in order!! But above all, treat everyone as your brother in deed and not in word only!!
        Paul puts it so succinctly in Colosians 3: 9- 14
        9 Do not lie to one another, seeing that you have put off the old self with its practices
        10 and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge after the image of its creator.
        11 Here there is not Greek and Jew, circumcised and uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, free; but Christ is all, and in all.
        12 Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience,
        13 bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.
        14 And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony.

        • Hi Kumar

          Thanks for your comment.

          I do not believe that there is a double standard.
          But this audience is not receptive to such explanations, so I will not get into an argument about clothing.

          However, I do agree with you on one thing – NO ONE should be shamed or ridiculed because of what they choose to wear (as long as it is reasonably modest and not tempting).

          I recently had very strong words with a TPM worker and told him that I feel very strongly about him scolding a young boy in our congregation regarding his hairstyle.

          Now, the worker may or may not like what I said.
          But, it is my duty to voice my objection in a respectful but firm manner.
          The rest is up to him and his conscience.

          I do not believe that the Bible strictly prohibits jewelry or alcohol either.
          There are verses that make references and suggestions to stay away from these things and its open to interpretation.

          However, St. Paul does ask us to not do anything that would defile our the “body” which is the temple of God.
          I believe firmly that Paul was not just referring to the earthly body, which will turn to dust at some point, but also to the spiritual body that should be in the kingdom of heaven.

          As much as the rest of the anti-TPM brigade on this site seem to paint me as a “fanatic”, “diehard”, etc, I like to look at things logically.

          When I do not agree with something, I will raise it with the right people at a time and place of my choosing.
          Till then I pray for grace and wisdom to understand better.

          (BTW, this group will praise when they hear something they like and curse when its not to their liking. They are not capable of objectivity, which is quite evident from the tone of their posts and comments.)

  7. Bunny dear, some stunning updates on Sister SAIDA BEE————–Hope you ‘ve understood her nonstop TELUGU recitation of 31 CHAPTERS FROM THE BOOK OF PROVERBS-A really master stroke indeed for about 81 minutes !!!!!. We all have to put our heads down before her.!!!! God bless her for her achievement.
    What amazes me more is that while a 5 std educated middle class sister who ekes out her living by running a small hotel, why not the TPM sisters /mothers who claim to have submitted themselves to the Lord’s ministry, match Sister Saida Bee in byhearting the precious the Word of God?
    What hinders them from learning the word of God byheart when they ‘ve plenty of time at their disposal in the F.Hs
    ——————————————————————————————————— —————-
    The following matter is collected from the video clipping itself.
    Sis.Shaik SARAH ( SAIDA BEE)
    studied only 5th Standard. She is a converted christian from a muslim family. She received salvation in 2006 and has been participating in active ministry ever since. She had already learned by heart and recited the Book of Psalm 119 Chapter also.

    సహూదరి షేక్ శారా (సైదా బీ) ముస్లిం కుటుంబం నుండి 2006 సం||ము లో రక్షింపబడినారు. కెవలం 5 వ తరగతి మాత్రమే చదువుకొని సామెతల గ్రంధం మొత్తం బైబిల్ చూడకుండ 1 – 31 అధ్యాయాలు ( 915 Verses ) WOMENS CONFERENCE BONAKAL లో చెప్పినారు.

    సహోదరి 119 వ కీర్తన అనగా మొత్తం 176 వచనములు కూడా చెప్పగలరు.త్వరలో ఆ విడియొ VIDEO ను కూడా అప్లోడ్ Upload చెస్తాము

  8. Another feather in the cap for this present EPISODE is, it was said that when pr. Wesley Peter passed away in BRIXTON.UK ,there occurred some considerable delay in bringing his body back to INDIA.Then the CLERGY explained to their bhaktas that there was query from UK immigration authorities why did this church use hospital medicines,and the doctors in U.K could not certify the body in time ,and the whole believers in UK had a tough time in convincing the authorities in the UK govt in finally releasing the body for airlifting it IBR H.Qtrs and with an assurance to them that the process would not be repeated in future.But look at the another embarrassing thing happened.
    Late Pr. Stephen’s body underwent the similar experience. No one knew when would the body arrive to IBR H.Qtrs and there was a total confusion as to how to plan for jorney arrangements to attend the funeral service.
    So would the CLERGY apply the same yard stick in NAGPUR ,INDIA to Shamsunder who produced a doctor certificate that he was hospitalized for so and so period?
    So what happened to their U.K doctrine of not using the medicines for their FLOCK?
    Do the U.K readers get my point of view?
    Can they throw some light on this?
    This double standard is totally perplexing.
    Whom are they deceiving?
    They can deceive the world ,but can they do to the EYES of the Lord?

    • Eagle’s Eye – Allow me to throw some light on this as you requested.

      As someone who has dealt with English law, I can tell you that
      1. The UK has very strict laws regarding the certification of death.
      When a person dies, doctors are not obliged to establish the fact of death, but do need to certify the medical cause of death.
      Anyone, such as a family member, can declare a person dead and note the date and time of death. The doctor’s responsibility is to certify the cause of death by issuing a medical certificate of cause of death.

      A coroner will usually carry out an enquiry if the cause of death is unknown or if it was sudden.

      2. Repatriation of a body out of the UK requires
      – a police report, in case of accidental or unnatural death.
      If the doctor who certified the cause reports that it was caused naturally then in most cases this is not required. If a family member is not around to confirm this, then it may take some additional time to ensure that there has been no foul play.
      – consent letter from next of kin for transportation, duly attested by a notary. Again, if no family member is present, there may be additional paperwork.

      Since pastor Wesley was a British citizen and the body was being repatriated to India, it would have caused additional delays in convincing British authorities of the reason for doing this.

      Given that they would have had no medical history on file for him, it would lead to complications and hence the delays in getting the body back to India.

      I’m particularly interested in this case, because I was actually present in London at the time and as far as I can tell everything was done by the book.
      So, no conspiracy to defraud you or anyone else.

      You said “look at the another embarrassing thing happened”.
      Why were YOU embarassed about it?
      You hate TPM, right?
      So, if TPM faces a problem, why are you getting so worried?

      • ,,,this makes it even worse…Vik the articulate is also an legal expert but is completely brain washed by TPM. How can this be? It does not take an imbecile to know that the doctrines of TPM are from hell and we have a supposedly educated (or is it literate) man defending this cult.

        Oh! how the mighty are deceived. No article from can open your eyes, Hope and pray that God will have mercy on you and your family.

        • I really wish you would come up with a simpler name than “No More A Slave To Fear”.
          It would make it so much easier to just call you “Jack” or “Jill” or something with one or two syllables.

          It’s quite coincidental that you called me “brainwashed”.
          If you could witness my last conversation with my local pastor, you would agree that I am anything but “brainwashed”.
          In fact, he warned me of the dangers of being “brainwashed” by everything I hear and read.

          He suggested that I read the Bible and meditate for clarity.

          As I drove past the gate, I noticed that signboard at the top of the building.
          It said “The Pentecostal Mission”.


        • I am no legal expert, but have dealt with legal matters extensively in my career and was trying to “educate” my friend, Eagle’s Eye as he was quite “embarassed” by what happened.

          I actually pray and hope that my eyes are opened by God – not by any person, organization or website.

          I pray the same for you too.

      • Wesley is an English Citizen, that is interesting, I thought these saints stay only two years in a fake home. Wonder why a super saint is not abiding by this rule?? or is it only for the saints of the lower degree in this cult?

        The more you dig in, the more you realise how devious and deceptive these king pins of TPM are? I have heard many a TPM saint holler from the pulpit that we are pilgrims so wonder why someone like Wesley would like to become a citizen in an alien country unless there were some material benefits obviously.

        • I once asked wondered about that citizenship question too and asked about it.

          The reason was simple and rooted in 1 Peter 2:13:
          “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme;”

          The laws of different countries (and in this case, the UK) require it.

          From verse 15 onwards, St Peter advises:

          15. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

          16. As free, and not using liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

          And finally, Peter says:
          17. Honour all. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honour the king.

          A lot of honouring going on here…

        • Wow, that is a convenient twist of our Vik.
          Which British ordinance forces you to take up citizenship? Why does TPM insist on their clergy take up citizenship when they have this unwritten rule of transferring people within 2 years. Is it because he was irreplaceable?
          Biblically speaking, the elder of a Church assembly should be from the local assembly(1 Tim 4:14, 1 Tim 3), Not some clergy imported from a foreign nation. But any way which Bible? Sorry, TPM’s bible says that the Elder has to be celibate and should be called an Apostle or a Saint.

        • it is so convenient, isn’t it? one can so easily quote a verse from the Bible to defend the hypocrisy of these saints.

          I will give it to you, you are truly a die hard TPM fan. You are well trained.

    • Hi..
      I am from Secunderabad..

      Want to know about Pas. Shyam Sunder’s episode at Nagpur.. It must have been few years now since this episode, cos after Nagpur he was in Jammu for few years.

        • Hey Roy , ” You said, nothing gonna happen ”
          But you are unaware that somethings have already happened…Many have left devil’s organization of tpm..

          And all those name are written in book of Life of lamb slain before foundation of the world, will surely come out of deceptive tpm.

          You keep harping nothing gonna happen, nothing gonna happen..500 times

        • Just answer me one thing , is there no JESUS in tpm?

          I am not supporting any organization

          But you cannot totally deny that everything is wrong and Jesus is not at all there, right?

          Why don’t u speak to the leaders?

        • @Roy
          @ is there no JESUS in tpm?
          What do mean ? Do you mean that the kick-dancing environment and the love bombing prophecies of tpm are proof of Jesus? Are you referring to tpm taking name of Jesus to brainwash people with counterfeit teachings a proof of Jesus? Don’t false prophets also take name of Jesus? Do false prophets speak not a single word from bible?

          Are you referring to fruits of flesh like murder, sodomy, hypocrisy, despising others, exalting their own group as only true church, sheep stealing, sodomy, and discovery of cigarette condoms liquor bottles in faith home, a sign of Jesus in tpm? Or are you calling lifestyle of tpm in which they make juniors as your cook, driver, laundrymen, waiter etc as proofs of Jesus in life of Tpm workers ? Or are you calling tpms white coloured clothes as sign of Jesus? May be you are referring to charity work that tpm does with orphanage and old age homes for widows a sign of Jesus. Ah.. but tpms ministry is Holiness and not charity work.. is that sign of Jesus ?

          @ why don’t you speak to leaders
          Your leaders keep reading the contents of this site
          Have they corrected anything untill now?

        • Hi Roy,
          Is there no Jesus in tpm ?

          Imagine the person whom you think as Jesus in tpm, and who talks to you as “my child my child” is not Jesus but a voice that decieves you ? Isn’t it possible? How will you judge the voice of God from voice of devil? Both voices can say my child , my child. Both voices can say thus saith the Lord, both voices can say that I make all things New. Both Moses and magicians were able to turn rod into snake? How do you distinguish Roy ? Have you ever noted that the context of bible verses and verse used by voice that says you my child differs ? For example; in bible when Spirit of God says, I will make all things New, He is refference to making of old earth into new eternity; but when the voice in tpm speaks I make all things New, the context is your job, your marriage, your health, etc etc..

        • Please make it some real conversation and don’t think I will be speaking from one side I am neutral.
          I don’t say all thing which are written in this site are wrong neither is everything right even u people know

          Ok tell me how come tpm people cast out devils?

          How come Jesus speaks to certain people through dreams and vision ok leave prohecy ( if u listen to some believers prophecy u can understand it is there words but not all , this even u believe I believe)

          Is there no soul saved from tpm ever?

        • How can you ever be Neutral when you started off by calling us Liars? So stop throwing that Baloney.

          Then stop dreaming son. Nobody casts out demons in TPM. The reason why it does not work is given in Matthew 12:26.

          Now Leave alone casting out demons, they cannot even heal a fly. Want more proof? Check out the Chennai convention healings. They need to stop doing this drama and get to their knees.

          As far as Dreams and visions are concerned, please check out this link.

          In TPM salvation does not occur by their teachings. If you are saved, you are at risk of losing it because it makes you depend on humans than Jesus for salvation. Need more proof? Open your English Hymn book and read Hymn No. 385. You can know that the TPM Clergy claims to be saviours.
          Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:12

          If you are following TPM Doctrine, you are straight away heading to destruction.

          You may read these articles too.

        • Roy,
          Even Mulsim Babas and many hindu exorcists casts out devil.

          Casting demon out in Mulsims – check link below

          Exorcism in Indian temple – check link below

          Exorcism in Buddhists – check link below

          Exorcism in Roman Catholics – check link below

          Jesus said, If I cast devil by Belzebub then by whom does your children cast it out? (Matt 12:27)

          Hence casting demons out is no proof of Jesus in TPM. There was one times of Jesus himself who casted demon out but he wasn’t follower of Jesus Mark 9:38

        • @admin
          //// How can you ever be Neutral when you started off by calling us Liars?

          see there are certain instances which have been mentioned in this site are partially right as per my knowledge and in one instance u have mentioned that tpm preachers preach for 1 hour so what exactly should be the preaching time???
          didn’t even Paul preached long ????

          I know that there certain songs which even i think doesn’t glorify GOD.

          don’t think i have never raised any questions.

          but speaking on the back is it right?? why bothers u people?? have u people committed any crimes in the past which hinder you to go before

          and regarding the healing in Chennai convention you cannot certainly say nobody gets healed seriously

        • //see there are certain instances which have been mentioned in this site are partially right as per my knowledge and in one instance u have mentioned that tpm preachers preach for 1 hour so what exactly should be the preaching time???

          In case you did not understand the point. It’s about wasting time when you do not have any counsel from God. Its always better to let it pass by if you are not given any message. In fact, it also could mean that the message is already given to someone else, but the TPM Protocol does not allow sermons to their “Believers”. 1 Cor 14:26. This happens because they think that their official protocol is to be followed even by the Holy Spirit. Two people We can guarantee that you can be put to sleep by their useless sermon are the Chief Pastors of TPM including Stephen and Sunil (Mathew Abraham). Be truthful and tell me what have you received from their sermons?

          //but speaking on the back is it right?? why bothers u people?? have u people committed any crimes in the past which hinder you to go before

          Who is speaking on the back? We have spoken straight to their face and now We are publishing as we could not speak to each one separately.
          Moreover, we want people to know of this wicked doctrine and how many are deceived by TPM.

          //and regarding the healing in Chennai convention you cannot certainly say nobody gets healed seriously

          Why don’t you do one thing? Give us a medical report of some serious sickness of any participant who was confirmed sick before the meeting and then was confirmed healed by some good reputed non-christian doctor. Should not that put all arguments to rest?

  9. The Pentecostal Mission is One of the worst organisation in India. Wondering why Government Of India still idle and supporting this type of “toughest fools’

    • Loading Sarcasm…
      John – they have bought the government with the crores of money that they have. So nothing to worry about.
      Sarcams Ends.

      • keeps me wondering why an articulate vik is still addicted to TPM????

        Maybe he is the classic illustration of the difference between educated and literate???

        • If I was addicted to it, I’d be here every day having fun commenting.

          Difference between “educated” and “literate”:
          Educated: having been educated
          Which I am, by the grace of God.

          Literate: able to read and write
          Paid a lot of attention in English class, hence so.

          To quote Alexander Pope,
          “A little learning is a dangerous thing;
          Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring”

          Who also wrote: “To err is human, to forgive divine.”

          I forgive you for your errors!

        • Thanks Vik for the pardon, greatly appreciated,

          It’s sanctification season in TPM now, please go back to your fasting and vain repetitions, maybe TPM’s gods will give you some new revelations in the coming days and you can come and share it with the readers here.

  10. @ Bala
    “I’m from Khammam, I didn’t get what exactly you conveyed about who is Syda bee and what’s her act I want to let my parents know about these and can bring them out”

    Bala dear, I am so happy to hear that your are from KHAMMAM. Then you are the better judge than I to talk about Sister Syda Bee. who has been making waves in the gospel front nowadays!

    You said you didn’t get what exactly I conveyed about Sister Syda.
    Please refer to the context that I ‘ve made in this comments section of this EPISODE.(the very first comment). Then you will understand it. The video of Sister Syda Bee’s recitation of 915 verses of total 31 chapters of PROVERBS non-stop in 81 minutes is just an amazing revelation to me that I put my head down because I could not able to emulate her even though I claim myself as far far better educated than her setting aside the denominational barriers. God doesn’t count it at all.
    She is the child of God of par excellence now having accepted Jesus as her Personal Saviour and having taken water baptism.You are the better judge than I to probe and investigate the truth from her.The You Tube presenters may/may not be correct, A personal talk with her shall establish the truth what I wrote about without knowing her.You can correct me rather share the news to this site for a better edification of the CHURCH of God, But over all we must be thankful to ADMIN brother for giving his space free for us

  11. TPM Is 100% Deceived and live in deception. Listen carefully below video till end. He says TPM is replica of Roman Catholic and do not marry in TPM.

    Below verse says more clear about TPM church and how they behave and blind believers. Isaiah 59 5-8

    5. They hatch the eggs of vipers
    and spin a spider’s web.
    Whoever eats their eggs will die,
    and when one is broken, an adder is hatched.
    6 Their cobwebs are useless for clothing;
    they cannot cover themselves with what they make.
    Their deeds are evil deeds,
    and acts of violence are in their hands.
    7 Their feet rush into sin;
    they are swift to shed innocent blood.
    They pursue evil schemes;
    acts of violence mark their ways.
    8 The way of peace they do not know;
    there is no justice in their paths.
    They have turned them into crooked roads;
    no one who walks along them will know peace.

    English version of Today’s church worship

  12. Dear Admin and visitors of this website,
    Could anyone please suggest a Fellowship/Church to my cousin who is staying at: “Canopy Crest, Kogilu Main Rd, Maruthi Nagar, Kogilu, Bengaluru, Karnataka, 560064.”

    He recently moved from Vizag to above mentioned place.
    Your valuable suggestions will help him greatly.

    Thank you,

    • @Bunny,
      See if he/she can pay a visit to Christian Fellowship Church which i see ( as per google map ) is just 7 mins drive ( 4kms ) from Canopy Crust .

      Christian Fellowship Church
      Paradise Enclave, Bellahalli,
      Kannur – Kogilu Road (Airport Link),
      Bangalore – 560 064

      • @Dear I Love Jesus,
        Thank you, I’ll ask him to visit that place.
        The reason why I asked all to suggest a Church or a fellowship is, that my cousin is a Roman Catholic believer, only from past few months he is getting closer to God and reading scriptures without any lens. This website is the real reason for that, implicitly it is helping even Roman Catholics and other denomination believers too.

        When I first come across this blog, articles on tithing, Church, Law of Hermeneutics, cult, double standards, hypocrisy and many more provoked my thoughts and answered many questions which are mentioned in my personal prayer. From then I started sharing these articles to my friends: TPM as well as non-TPM.
        I really thank God for ‘Fromtpm Team’ & people who are engaging in the comment section.

        As he(cousin) is away from home and friends, I felt that a ‘Bible believing fellowship’ may strengthen his spiritual life and help him to learn basic Christianity. We both are new to christendom and our family members are still Hindus, many basic qustions on water baptism, Trinity, salvation and historicity of Bible, fellowship, worship, etc always boggle our mind and everytime, 1 Peter 3:15 reminds us to be prepared.
        Please pray that God may leads us to the right place/fellowship/theological place to learn more of Him and serve Him selflessly.

        Thank you,

        1 Peter 3:15
        But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear;

        • Bunny – thanks for quoting that verse.

          I found it very useful, especially where St. Peter adds the condition that it should be done with “meekness and fear”.

          Thank you, again!

        • it is impossible to wake a man who pretends to be asleep…Vik, my sympathies are with you.

      • Pls do not get into CFC cult..
        It’s a one man army, proud filled, partiality treatment place . I know many friends who are insulted by their so called elders , disrespecting, seperating , are very common there..

    • Hi Bunny,
      I second the recommendation from I Love Jesus. I would also recommend The Crossroad Bangalore which is situated in Kothanur (8 km from kogilu) which is my home church. Both churches have solid Bible based teaching but neither is charismatic. You couldn’t go wrong with either.

    • Hi Bunny ,

      I have a friend who was delivered like you from Roman Catholic Background. They have regular fellowship in their house. You can contact him in his mail id :
      He and his entire family was delivered from RC.

      Surya K

  13. @Roy says: May 6, 2019 at 3:36 pm
    Just answer me one thing , is there no JESUS in tpm?

    I am not supporting any organization

    But you cannot totally deny that everything is wrong and Jesus is not at all there, right?

    Why don’t u speak to the leaders?
    A very interesting query indeed!

    An answer was found in this site itself. But one needs to be patient enough to dig through the GOLD MINES’ that this site has been presenting to the whole of Christian community as such.
    Go to an ‘EPISODE ‘ of this site that was titled “Understanding Mind Control in TPM – 2
    (October 3, 2017 – by admin – 147 Comments.) ,one can get an appropriate answer to the above query.

    Anyway here is an extract I ‘ve drawn from it.
    “You are designated and called as “a Believer” . At the same time, they call themselves as “the Servant of God/Saints/ Apostles etc“”. Continuous application of these terminologies in TPM, makes your mind gradually accept the fact that you are a person at a lower level for GOD. They push themselves over you in your sub-conscious mind in such a way that you accept your inferiority to them. That is why many “Believers” go to the “Saints” to get their needs Prayed to God. They have no confidence that their prayers will be heard by God. They come to some sort of realization that their prayers are very ineffective to yield results. That is the precise reason why the “Believers” testify that their needs were met by the “prayers of the Saints”. This is a great deception in TPM. For a TPM Believer, The Clergy have made themselves the mediator and replaced Christ from his position.
    I fully support this particular EPISODE and wish to underline two statements made by this site……….”..

    “1.This is a great deception in TPM. ”
    2. “For a TPM Believer, The Clergy have made themselves the mediator and replaced Christ from his position.”
    So whosoever is having doubts about this CULT orgn ,can get their doubts cleared from the above EPISODE I cited .

  14. @”Amway Marketing and Pagan practices in TPM”
    April 3, 2017 – by admin – 35 Comments.
    To all the doubting THOMASES of the readership of this site.
    As I was digging through the GOLD MINES, I ‘ve just come across the above Titled ‘EPISODE’ with 35 invaluable comments is another a gem of this site.
    This is an open invitation to all the new readers and silent peep through-ers to have a frank opinions regarding this CULT orgn.

    There is an excellent theological matter on the book of ENOCH and the reasons of its removal from the KJV — was discussed and debated at length between the two senior contributors of this site : Bro. RICHARD & and Bro. DENZEL JOY. I wish to thank them for bringing out their frank opinions so openly for the benefit of the readers. These exchange of opinions regarding the relevance of book of ENOCH, nowhere you find the websites.Quite invaluable matter was imbedded in this particular ‘EPISODE’

  15. @ predestination

    //Even Mulsim Babas and many hindu exorcists casts out devil.

    There is no other person who can caste out demon except Jesus or by His name (Philippians 2:10).
    Please read Mathew 12 : 28
    28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I drive out demons, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
    Jesus uses spirit of God to drive demons from the above. So we as His disciples will drive out demons by the spirit of God as Jesus did !
    Mark 16:17,18
    17 And these signs will accompany those who believe: In my name they will drive out demons; they will speak in new tongues; 18 they will pick up snakes with their hands; and when they drink deadly poison, it will not hurt them at all; they will place their hands on sick people, and they will get well.”
    Here Jesus tells us that people who believe in Him will caste out demons. Then how can driving out demons happen in Hindu, Buddhist, Muslim temples. There might be deception that devil is caste out but it is not total relief from demon possession. Can you see any evidence of permanent relief from demonic possesion other than through Jesus ? All other exorcisms of other religions are deceptions.

    In Mark 9:38 that person uses Jesus name ! Are they using Jesus name to caste out demon in other religions like Islam, hindu, buddhists etc ? Then how can you tell demons can be caste out by people who do not believe in Jesus ?
    38 “Teacher,” said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.”
    39 “Do not stop him,” Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us.
    Are hindu, muslims, buddhists does miracle in Jesus name as per Mark 9:39,40 ?
    As per my understanding only Jesus name can drive out demons fully. All other ways are just pretending to caste demons.

    When the unclean spirit has gone out of a man, he roams through waterless places in search of rest; and finding none, he says, “I will return to my house which I left.” And when he has come to it, he finds the place swept and clean. Then he goes and takes seven other spirits more evil than himself, and they enter in and dwell there; and the last state of that man becomes worse that the first(Lk 11:24-25).

    As per this verse only people get diseases , evil spirit possesion when they enter in to sinful act again. That is why Jesus ask not to sin any more. ( eg.)Luke 8:11,John 5:14

    • @Surya
      I agree Surya that it must be deception, when Hindu, Buddhist or Muslim exorcists cast demon. And that was my point in replying to ROY. The context was question raised by ROY. He asked how does TPM workers cast demon, so i asked him how does other religious exorcists do exorcism? How do Catholics exorcists carry demon expelling activity. My point was that “should demon expelling activity become a proof that I should see in Catholics and believe in their teachings? Or by looking at Muslim exorcists I should believe in what Muslims teach ? Or should i look at TPM exorcists and believe them as men from God and start believing in message they give?

      • I understood what you meant to convey. From my experience to identify the person following Jesus will exhibit Christ love(John 13:35). People in TPM can never love one another. I never knew the bible fully when I left TPM. It is mainly due to a harsh behaviour of a elder sister towards me I started kneeling in prayer and asked Jesus to reveal me. Then only I found this site when I was searching for something related to TPM. Doctrinal issues I understood through the holy spirit and this site too. John 10:10 gives the character of devil which is found in many workers of TPM. The elder sister was so much torturing me for years I was very obedient to her. But she crossed the limits and her attitude was like separating my husband. I started to cry in prayers. Then Jesus opened my spiritual eyes. So best part in understanding a follower of Christ is to look for fruits of spirit rather than sign and wonders.
        Even pas . Manasseh is a liar. I did not speak in tongues or received holy spirit but he lied that I spoke in tongues when he laid hands on me. I was confused at this moment.



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