Jacob Williams

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  1. I am the brother in law and friend of jacob ,I know Jacob as a child,firstly not five three went to the ministry,two sisters and jacob went to the ministry,sister freeda died 2007,in a small place in Andhra called madanapalli,he died in faith was a great soul winner ,even sister susheela though she came outside the ministry,then workers of Bangalore honoured and got the burial done in the church in Frazer town,jacob was also present there,wonderfull testimony of her work in uk and around was shared in the funeral service.
    Now that Jacob is out he has got his own reason ,he is not blaming the church for this,sis jyothi pastor johnson,other are made causes by people,jacob spoke to me and made things very clears he will remain in faith as a believer, continue to be with God s church.
    He who has called is able to keep to the last,fase news is a crime against God and the church,lets abstain from all this,praise the Lord

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    1. @Edison
      Hi Eddy,
      Nice to hear from you mate, someone close to Jacob and hence should be the truth.

      I have been told that Jacob was asked to leave. Is this correct?

      Also can you please shed some light on why exactly he left so that we can put all the rumours to rest.

      It is great to know that he will continue in the TPM faith. Can you please explain why someone would give up Zion? Isn’t it worth it or is it all a lie? If it is a lie, why is the church banding this heresy and destroying the precious lives of young people like Jacob and Susheela.

      Today it is Jacob, tomorrow it might be one of our own children, is it worth it.

      Also since Jacob and Susheela left the ministry, where are they going to end up in eternity? TPM will say that they have fallen from grace. We have been always told that ” If you take your hand off the yoke, you are doomed”. It would be great to hear your views on this as you are close to Jacob and will know his thoughts about this. It will help everyone including any aspiring youth who wants to join the great ministry. It will also help disenchanted people in the ministry who have joined without really being born in Zion to quit in a nice way.

      This also puts a question mark on the ordination ceremony of TPM’s chief pastors. The anointing from Zion does not always work, does it? So is it all a drama and a con job or is it demonic? This means that TPM’s god has butter fingers and he drops a few or the TPM chiefs who bring the anointing from zion on these candidates during the selection process are going against the will of TPM’s god and letting some failures to pass the test. I’m confused and hence all these questions.

      Looking forward to your answers for the edification of all readers here.

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    2. @ he will remain in faith!
      Really? According to scriptures Jacob is backslider. He left ministry. Any person putting his hand on plough and turning back is not worthy for kingdom of God. Like 9;62

      If we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful expectation of judgment, and a fury of fire that will consume the adversaries. Hebrews 10:26-31

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    3. Nice to hear from you mate, someone close to Jacob and hence should be the truth.
      I have been told that Jacob was asked to leave. Is this correct?
      Also can you please shed some light on why exactly he left so that we can put all the rumours to rest.
      It is great to know that he will continue in the TPM faith. Can you please explain why someone would give up Zion? Isn’t it worth it or is it all a lie? If it is a lie, why is the church banding this heresy and destroying the precious lives of young people like Jacob and Susheela. Today it is Jacob, tomorrow it might be one of our own children, is it worth it.
      Also since Jacob and Susheela left the ministry, where are they going to end up in eternity? TPM will say that they have fallen from grace. We have been always told that ” If you take your hand off the yoke, you are doomed”. It would be great to hear your views on this as you are close to Jacob and will know his thoughts about this. It will help everyone including any aspiring youth who wants to join the great ministry. It will also help disenchanted people in the ministry who have joined without really being born in Zion to quit in a nice way.
      This also puts a question mark on the ordination ceremony of TPM’s chief pastors. The anointing from Zion does not always work, does it? So is it all a drama and a con job or is it demonic? This means that TPM’s god has butter fingers and he drops a few or the TPM chiefs who bring the anointing from zion on these candidates during the selection process are going against the will of TPM’s god and letting some failures to pass the test. I’m confused and hence all these questions.
      Looking forward to your answers for the edification of all readers here.

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      1. This system of replying will go on,i want to make clear Jacob due to his sickness and his own reasons,went and spoke to chief pastors,left with responsibility,had he been selfish he had believers backing him in thousands to approach chief pastors to take him back,but he dint do that he told them to follow the workers advice and not create any problem. In the ministry I have known people stealing money and leaving the ministry,or taking some sisters and getting married,i know Jacob was asked many believers if he wanted financial support,he dint take from them even after leaving the ministry. I would like bring to knowledge of some people calling Jacob a backslider and son on,if u have seen the history of many honest workers whi left the ministry ,are doing wonderful ministry in india and abroad,Tpm is not only the place to serve the Lord,if you want God will open many ways. Please abstain from messaging irevalant messages,i also want to also state Tpm is not only the gate to Zion,when u serve the Lord with following his spirit and truth doing Gods will is enough. Praise the Lord hope to see positive messages not baseless ones

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        1. Hey Eddy,

          Many thanks for taking the time to reply however you have not said anything even though you appear to have said a lot. These questions are not baseless but very relevant and you have an opportunity to do the right thing by answering the questions. I can understand if you admit that you don’t know the answers but calling them negative and baseless is not right.

          You can continue in denial just like all the gullible ignorant TPM believers who are being led down the garden path by the TPM false teachers.

          Why don’t you for once in your life stand up for the Truth? What has TPM done but destroy the lives of so many youth with their false promises about Zion. Don’t you see the pain in Jacob’s life and you might have seen the same in Susheela’s life? How many more young people should die or waste their precious lives for this satanic false religion before you will make a stand.

          You can be a coward or stand up for Christ. It is your choice.

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      2. our lord told samuel to anoint saul as king.later he himself felt sorry for making saul as king.then he choose david as king.then what about the calling of saul?.can you find fault with god.don’t blame the church and the leaders .

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        1. You are assuming that God “annointed” these people. Sorry darling…. You are too far from the truth

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        2. @Wesley, I would accept your inference if you can convince me using the Bible that the God of Samuel and the god of TPM are the same.

          I can point you to 260+ articles on this website to prove to you that Samuel’s God is not TPM’s god.

          I lived in the same delusion as you are in right now but the God of the Bible in His mercy saved me. I wish that one day you will know the same God.

          I know a TPM pastor who shares your name and I pray that he will also be delivered from this cult just like Jacob.

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        3. Very true but how about people who left for good and doing better ministry outside ,your Saul was a backslider,if you know Jacob well you would not tell this,dont be judgemental about what u don’t know,Pastor Jacob will continue the ministry ,only time ahead the Lord directs will tell the future course,pray for people.

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        4. I totally agree with Edison, cant brand JW as a backslider. He will be used by God in his domain not in any silly man made domain like tpm or pmt or mtp

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        5. @Weseley
          @calling
          This (calling) is tpm jargon.
          Bible says if any man desire office of bishop he desires good thing. Let him then be husband of one wife….etc etc…

          So it clear all those who themselves want to serve are encouraged in bible, however in tpm they are supposed to prove their calling to chief pastors . It is in this refference NMSTF raised question about ordination, showing you that tpms “ordination” or “calling” cannot be from God, if people forsake ministry.

          Coming to Saul. I would say Saul had calling to fall. Lord expresed people that he is not happy to appoint King, even before God asked Samuel to annoint Saul. How can he be with whom God is not pleased grab reward from God irrespective of what God wants.

          If you want to use any such analogy then use apostles not kings. Judas iscariot backslider and prophecy of his fall was already prophecied in Psalms.

          So the point is that if God appoints someone for some place, it is not faithfulness of the person but faithfulness of God that makes him reach that eternal destiny. Otherwise salvation would become salvation by works and not by grace.

          In short tpms calling or ordination for Zion is proved wrong wgen tpm ministers like Jacob leave tpm ministry. It shows God has not called tpm Minister’s.

          If God has called us then he will perform it and finish it. You and I cannot change it. Doesn’t God says I will have mercy on whom.i will, when Moses prayed to God to take his life instead of Israel. Isn’t that reason why Paul says, it is not of him that runneth or walketh but of God that sheweth mercy?

          Tpm theology is surfacial and Armenianstic.

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    4. Are you really his bro in law.. ? see we have no otherway to check the authenticity.
      Have you read the other scandals from tpm , whoever reads that atleast get a bit of doubt on their current journey with tpm ..

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      1. Hey Hannibal,

        I was part of the Church in Bangalore, know Jacob’s family members closely and I can confirm Edison is his Brother in law really.

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        1. And anyone who knows that Edison is Jacob’s brother in law can use the name Edison to post here claiming to be his brother in law.

          Funny how the anonymity works here.

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    5. Dear Edison, I recently got delivered from TPM after reading the atrocities done by them. This site merely confirmed my suspicions. I was born and brought up in TPM and was a stern believer till 25th October 2018. I had always looked down upon other churches, but now I know the truth that we are all the church of Christ and not “only” TPM as they teach us. Now that I’m a member of another church, I can see what love between believers is…what fellowship is. I thank the admins for his work that is saving so many souls from this awful pit known as tpm. I hope this site does it’s work and many more people will be delivered. If anyone is getting saved from tpm in Abu Dhabi and don’t know which church to go, please do message here, I will get back. May God bless us all

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  2. a truthful and a faithful saint of god was pas jacob

    i am sixteen years old and i know pastor since by birth pas served lord in thiruvottiyur faithhome when i was born pas was an great example to all youths he had so much zeal for the lord . the fault which was implied on pastor was fake pastor is a true zion nothing can stop him entering into the kingdom of god PASTORS LAST SUNDAY MEETING IN TONDIAR PET WAS WITH THIS THEME VERSE (heb:12:18) And this one word touched me individually a lot ( WHO IS A SAINT? one who is least among all the people) really pastor was an example to these lines . it is really sad that tpm mission had lost such a wonderful pastor from the ministry because of some zelous people (One of a beliver from tondiarpet faith home)

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    1. Christy nice to see some good words from a small girl ,I am proud to be the childhood friend and brother in law of pastor Jacob,sometimes I feel sorry about our administration,pastor joseph vijayan,pastor sam and many other are doing wonderful ministry,sad thing is Jacob is still with his worker dress and adamant he doesn’t want to do other ministry,he wants to remain in this faith,i pray the Lord guide him.
      I believe our God is not unrighteous or neither is Jacobs labour will never go vain in the Lord,he has gone through lot of hunger and suffering in Nagaland and other northeast places,may the Lord intervene in a mighty way.

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      1. //sad thing is Jacob is still with his worker dress and adamant he doesn’t want to do other ministry,he wants to remain in this faith,i pray the Lord guide him.

        Why don’t you think that it is the Lord’s guidance that he is adamant in remaining in TPM?

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      2. It is sad to hear that Jacob wants to continue in the “TPM faith” which implies that the reason for quitting is not based on doctrine but maybe due to personal or health reasons. Only regeneration can save a TPM believer from this delusion. Hope one day the God in His mercy will help him realise that the exclusive TPM faith is very much different from the simple Christian faith.

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        1. Only in that white garment…..he will be who he practiced himself to be…his brain couldnt accept the truth…that what God expects vs wat there man made doctrines converted him into something which definitely what God not intented to be…

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      3. What does this mean ?
        Is it Pastor Jacob is willing to join back and Administration / Top Leadership wont budge ?
        or Top leadership ready to take him but Pastor Jacob not keen on joining back ?

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    2. God bless u use the teaching of pastor Jacob and live and example to many youth ,I am The bil and friend of Jacob,he is a true example of stature and nature of our Lord Jesus Christ,may God guide him he is now in Bangalore safe

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    1. Praise God! problems and differences in opinion are there everywhere… let’s not judge and pass any verdict… God is the supreme judge and His judgement is true…let’s not say anything which brings dishonour to others…. whoever is the moderator of this group… Just a request… if you find anything offensive to your beliefs or understanding please pray about it instead of writing this way…no one is perfect in this world including you… please remember this before passing any comments

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        1. Like the Mormons calls their book as bible, admin and his followers started referring this site as their golden book for reference. Kudos!

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        2. @stephen,
          Stop behaving like an Idiot.
          People refer to the pages of this site not because it is holy or anything like that. People refer to pages in this site as it has the same information which the writer needs to convey. So instead of typing the same thing again, it helps with pointing to it.

          And in case you have issues with some pages, you should be able to challenge the contents. Why is that you are not able to challenge them? Is not that because you are naked there?

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      1. @Charlotte,

        If no one is perfect, then why are you calling theses frauds “SAINTS”. Please correct yourself before making derogatory comments.

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        1. Who did u referred has frauds,its foolish to call all frauds,just for some frauds can’t call all frauds

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        2. @Edison,
          I do not think it is wrong to call the entire Lot as Frauds as It fits the definition. Check the highlighted part of the attached definition.
          As the Entire edifice of the TPM Clergy Exists for the sole cause of their fraudulent Zion and Their Superiority over believers, they are Frauds by intent or at least by association.

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        3. @Edison,

          Majority of the TPM workers are honest sincere humble TPM saints but from the Bible’s point of view, they are all spiritual frauds and are not christians as they are teaching lies in the Name of God .

          It is very hard for TPM believers to accept this because we are all under the impression that TPM is christian and the Body of Christ. Unfortunately since TPM adds to the Gospel with its additional doctrines based on the dreams of a pervert and heretic, Alwyn, it is a false religion. Leaders of this false religion are therefore frauds be it Jacob William or any of your other leading stalwarts like Emptee or Alwyn or TU or Ac or PM or Don or Michael or any of the other leading saints of TPM/NCPC/NTC.

          Our God is merciful and is willing to forgive if only the current popes of TPM humble themselves and discard the false teachings and start leading this organisation according to the Bible.

          More than 90 years have passed but none of your chief shepherd saints were humble enough to correct the course of this ship. So TPM is a false religion and all the leaders will definitely meet their leader, Satan in his zion where they will reign forever beholding his pretty face and composing new songs about their zion and singing them with their usual zeal praising themselves.

          You, my friend are educated and you still have time to save yourself and your dear family by becoming a Berean and checking if what TPM teaches is according to the Bible. Start with the Sunday school syllabus and you will realize how deep this deception is and how meticulous have the TPM founding fathers designed it to ensure that you are enslaved from your early years.

          Now you are not helpless here, use this website and start reading each article with a neutral view and you will realize how you have been duped for so long. Save your money and more importantly save your soul and your children’s souls.

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        4. Makes me to remember my college days syllogism.

          All men are fraud
          TPM are men
          TPM are fraud

          All TPM are fraud
          All TPM are men
          Franklin is a man
          Franklin is a fraud

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        5. You need to learn more about theorem solving, Son. Let me work out that for you


          Only One doctrine is Right and the Rest are Frauds
          The Right ones will have Biblical support in Exegesis
          All the Others are Fraudulent
          TPM does not have Biblical Basis
          Therefore TPM is Fraud.


          As TPM is fraud
          Franklin Exited out of TPM.
          He is no more a TPM Fraud

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      2. Charlotte , The difference of opinion is so much that, I have to skip my relatives home, Due to this difference of opinion lecture. Had to change my car gospel songs to particular songs due to difference in opinion. Cant wear good clothing due to difference of opinion, Cant tell problems to get prejudged due to this difference of opinion, Cant tell the bible in the way I understand, due to this difference of opinion. Cant buy any other color due to the difference of opinion. The Believers I know due to this difference of opinions were very happy when other opinioned guys suffer. And it goes on… The difference of opinion is creating a mental torture coming from my opposite opinionated source ! Got it, Some where the line has to be drawn ! Its against the anti bible principalities. Vain words of Judging others in HIS Name ! God will judge the people who call His name in vain ! It belongs to HIM.

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        1. If you don’t agree on the rules and regulations then please don’t be in this fellowship… go to other place where you can have freedom and liberty to live as per your wishes.. I don’t think anyone is forcing you to come to TPM…

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        2. @Charlotte:
          I came out of TPM in 2001, not because I didn’t agree with their rules and regulations (as you state in your comment), but because I found out that their rules and regulations were man-made and contrary to the scriptures.

          For instance, I did not find any scriptural support for TPM’s following rules:
          1. Other Christians saved by the shed blood of Jesus cannot take part in their communion. Is it the Lord’s table or TPM’s table?
          2. If any of their believer’s son or daughter gets married to another saved/believing Christian in a different denomination, then the parent (TPM believer) will be punished (cannot take part in their communion or various ministries for 6 months).
          3. If you take medicines, your body will become corrupt and you will not be raptured at the second coming of Christ.
          … and the list goes on and on… If you can provide support for TPM’s rules with correct scripture references, please do so.

          If we love our brothers and sisters then we will carefully point out their flaws/sins. Remaining silent in the face of ongoing rebellion against God is like piling wood in the arms of a man standing in the middle of a burning house. This truth should make us zealous to speak out, to be in accountability groups where doctrinal flaws of a church (TPM or any other church) can be addressed, and to build relationships where we don’t just talk about the weather but we dig into every facet of Christianity to help each other.

          Many places in the New Testament speak to the value of correction. James commands us to warn brothers wandering away from the faith (James 5:19-20). Paul tells us to caution those who ignore his teaching (2 Thess 3:14-15). The author of Hebrews warns us, “Take care, brothers, lest there be in any of you an evil, unbelieving heart, leading you to fall away from the living God” (Heb 3:12). It’s a loving thing to point out the doctrinal errors of a church and warn the fellow brothers/sisters about the impending danger. This site is merely pointing out the errors (to put it mildly) of TPM to their innocent and gullible members. This is not wrong and the scripture supports/encourages this. Please don’t be peeved by this.

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  3. @Edison,
    When No.1 & No.2 are frauds, the entire group is fraud only.
    Mathew 7:16, “You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
    In this year Chennai Convention, No.1 fraud Abraham Mathew during the general body fake show said around 20-25 fakes (TPM workers) died since last TPM fake show at Irumbuliyoor. You know at least that many number die every month. What more proof you need to establish the fraudulent attitude of these people for the beyond repair brainwashed like you.

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  4. To all my friends who is irrated looking at my comments… I’m not going to comment on your opinions as I don’t want to come down to that abusive level… I see a kind of frustrated bunch of people who had bad experience with few servants of God or believers and tagging everyone as bad or whatever vocabulary you used… it’s not right… I have come across few believers and so called pastors from other churches who don’t even follow the basic law or commandments from bible and they call themselves pastors… based on this I can’t refer all believers and pastors of other churches as bad… because I know there are many pastors who live according to the word and give their life to Lord… I thank God for those people… I ignore those who do wrong… why should I abuse, accuse others… Jesus never did anything against to those who persecuted Him or never even spoke with abusive language (like above) looks like you have taken more burden than Jesus… let God bless you with Christ’s nature… God bless

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    1. @Charlotte
      You are making some interesting points..But you seem to be like the typical TPMer who would not want to talk on any point. Just brushing it here and there for namesake.


      // I have come across few believers and so-called pastors from other churches who don’t even follow the basic law or commandments from the bible and they call themselves pastors

      What we are saying is that the same is the case with almost all of TPM Pastors. If the other church pastors violate command “X'”, TPM Pastors Violate “Y and Z”.
      That is what we are exposing in this Website.


      //because I know there are many pastors who live according to the word and give their life to Lord… I thank God for those people

      So this is your certificate of TPM Pastors. Can you name a few with empirical data to prove it?


      //Jesus never did anything against to those who persecuted Him or never even spoke with abusive language (like above) looks like you have taken more burden than Jesus

      If you are referring to Franklin Calling TPM Ministers as Fraud, that is not an abuse. It is a fact.
      Now for your Jesus Command, just read the following verses.

      You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Matt 23:23

      He replied, “Go tell that fox, ‘I will keep on driving out demons and healing people today and tomorrow, and on the third day I will reach my goal.’ Luke 13:32

      “It is written,” he said to them, “‘My house will be called a house of prayer,’ but you are making it ‘a den of robbers.’Matt 21:13

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    2. @Charlotte

      When I was in TPM I also used to suffer from a condition called “cognitive dissonance” which prevented me from listening to any other point of view(even if it was true) other than what TPM had indoctrinated in me since my childhood.

      I think you should check what it means and you will understand how deeply you are entangled in TPM’s web. Just google it and you will find some interesting articles addressing this syndrome on the net and also on Youtube. You can find them on fromtpm.com but I’m not sure if you would believe that since you think that fromtpm.com is against TPM.

      In fact, fromtpm.com is TPM believers’ best friend as it working so hard to show them how they are being misled by a group of elitist deluded mob, who in their whitewashed, celibate, self righteous garb are not only stealing your hard earned money but also devouring your priceless precious souls.

      Hope one day you will realise this and as so many who have been liberated have done, you will also send in your story of freedom from TPM’s bondage.

      Pray that God will have mercy on you and give you the spirit of discernment.

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      1. No more a slave to fear,why can’t u reveal ur identity ,the name above mentioned proves your fear to show your identity and you preach like a saint condemning saints in Tpm,your coment is totally judgemental and baseless,you have not met real saints in Tpm I agree there are some workers like u mentioned,wheat and tares grow together God will Judge at his day,no damn human got to judge a church chosen by God.
        When the Cpm got the name changed to Tpm ,some pastors revolted as they travel back they met with and accident and died,Cpm is there in kerala but has not grown,sadly only become smaller God is judge Tpm is God chosen church,no one can dare do anything to it,you don’t like leave but dont coment unnecessary things about a church of God.

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        1. hey eddie , why you are here in the first place .? as there was a circular claiming not to visit this site , not to use watsap ..by your fraud saints why you still peeping here .?

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        2. Hey Eddy, my friend.
          I’m a wretched nobody who was once enslaved in TPM but now saved by the amazing grace of God. I was once lost in TPM but now a part of the true Body of Christ because in His mercy, he saved me from the deception I was in. Today I’m no more a slave to fear but a child of God because of His Amazing grace.

          My identity will not save you but the Truth will.

          Why don’t you address the most important issue here – your identity. Are you a TPM believer or a child of God because you cannot be both at the same time. You are saved by Grace or by works. You cannot be saved by both. TPM is a false religion, my friend, and you are deceived as I was once upon a time.

          Save yourself and your dear family before it is too late. TPM’s false teachings will take you to the wrong place in eternity. All I’m pleading you to do is become a Berean and study the doctrines of TPM and see how devious and false they are.

          Instead of sliding that envelope containing your hard earned money into the slimy hands of these liars, go take your family for a well deserved holiday and open the Bible and do a thorough study of TPM using the articles fromtpm.com and the Sunday school syllabus. It will save you from the bondage you are in.

          My dad and your dad, the wonderful late Thomas uncle made a mistake, we can correct it and free our present and future generations from this slavery. I will pray that God will have mercy on you and open your eyes to see the Truth and the Truth will never fail in saving you.

          BTW I’m not ignorant of TPM as my family was enslaved in this cuIt for four generations and I know all your so called saints and they are all great TPM saints but in the eyes of the Bible, they are all liars and false teachers which makes them an abomination in the eyes of the Lion of Judah. It is sad but unfortunately the truth. It hurts me and that is the reason I feel sick of these leaders who are continuing to lead these precious souls down the path of destruction thinking that they are doing the will of God. Many of them know the truth but they are intentionally suppressing the Truth to protect their position and power, scared of their future or too comfortable in what they are doing.

          About my preaching, if the sovereign God had not intervened in my teens, I would have also ended up as one of your TPM saints, just like our friends – Jacob, Wesley and the Immanuels. Thank God He never allowed me to be trapped in this cruel profession but kept me away, otherwise I also would have ended up being a liar and a hired hand.

          Think about it, the co founder and the author of all the exclusive doctrines of TPM, the late TPM St. Alwyn ended up on the streets as a drunkard surrounded by hoodlums. You are following his teachings, does it take a Einstein to know that these teachings were lies and from hell. Now your beloved new St.Empty is praising this charlatan and misleading the TPM faithful saying that Alwyn the pervert got his revelations from God. What does that make Emtee , a saint? No my dear Eddy, St. Emtee and all his predecessors were the servants of Satan because none of them stopped preaching and propagating these lies and in the process deceived thousands of innocent souls over so many decades.

          Their destination is secure in eternity, with the father of all lies. The question is where are you and your children heading for? It is not too late, be a Berean.

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        3. @Eddy,

          You said that the CPM members were killed in an accident because they rebelled. Why did our friend Immanuel die in an accident? Was he is also rebelling from TPM and starting KPM (Kannada PM)? Why do all your saints die young? Very rarely you see anyone reach 70? Are they all rebels?

          Please do not think that The Almighty God is out there protecting TPM. He is not, He is just allowing it to flourish just like all other similar cults – Mormons, JWS, SDAs and many other charismatic cults. He will save his sheep from these cults in His time. The question is, are you a sheep?

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        4. @Edison
          //When the Cpm got the name changed to Tpm ,some pastors revolted as they travel back they met with and accident and died//

          Your above comment is very discourteous and it reveals the sorry state of your heart, the extent to which you have been indoctrinated and enslaved by this cult! I know a few TPM workers who have died in road accidents, but I will not be quick to judge that they died because of their sins or rebellion against God.

          When I read your comment, I am reminded of two New Testament events from the Bible – the massacre on the temple mount (Luke 13:1-3) and the collapse of the tower of Siloam (Luke 13:4-5).

          In both cases, Jesus warned His audience not to assume that the victims of those tragedies had been judged for their evil. It’s always a temptation to assign sudden, unexplainable deaths to the judgment of God in response to sin. Jesus says it is a mistake to automatically attribute such tragedies to the vengeance of God. Whether it is a man-made tragedy (Pilate’s slaughter of the Galileans) or a naturally caused tragedy (the fall of the tower of Siloam), it is wrong to assume that the victims are somehow worse sinners than everyone else and thus deserved to die.

          Death can come unexpectedly to anyone, irrespective of how righteous or how sinful they are. Sadly, Christians, non-Christians, theists, atheists, TPM workers, other denominational workers, etc. all die in unfortunate circumstances due to road accidents or weather incidents or epidemics or other natural/man-made calamities. When such tragedies occur, we should resist the temptation to assign guilt to the victims, as if they had received God’s judgment.

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      1. Not all..Turn your pages to Hymn No. 385 In English TPM Hymn Book. And you will find people who are holy that they can bear the iniquities of others.

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    3. @Charlotte

      The difference between all other churches and the owners/writers of the articles on this site is that this site contains the actual, true, infallible and ultimate interpretation of the Word of God.

      The admin asks for empirical data to prove to him that some pastors are good, so that he (the admin) can give his personal seal of approval.

      In addition, the admin and his cohorts have been given a commandment from heaven itself to audit the financial records of TPM and its branches, measure each and ever TPM worker by their yardstick and deliver a verdict on their worthiness to be called servants of God.

      They have also been given orders to judge the poor TPM “believers” and accuse them of foolishness as has been done across the pages of this site.

      So, be careful what you say.

      You will be judged.

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      1. Anybody who has read 2 Cor 8:20-21 in context will never utter this nonsense.

        20 We want to avoid any criticism of the way we administer this liberal gift. 21 For we are taking pains to do what is right, not only in the eyes of the Lord but also in the eyes of man.

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  5. Everywhere the non TPMites or ex TPM are going, all are fraudsters as everywhere fraud is there. If you do not go to any church or don’t go to any church as pointed once by admin, is also fraudster as you cannot claim yourself to be holy.

    Look at Jesus and walk guys. Looking at people, will make you fall like all these people have fallen and trying to make others to fall.

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    1. Where did you get all these nonsense from? Admin is a SAINT as are the rest of the Blood Bought Christians. Admin is part of the Holy Nation (1 Peter 2:9).

      But Admin would never be part of the frauds who call themselves Saints to the exclusion of Others.


      If you are looking at Jesus, Do you approve of his actions and words in Matt 23?

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    2. @Kelly
      //Look at Jesus and walk guys. Looking at people, will make you fall like all these people have fallen and trying to make others to fall.//

      There is nothing wrong with looking at people (Pastors or Elders) as long as the people (Pastors or Elders) we look at are followers/imitators of Jesus and His Word. Apostle Paul writes “Imitate me, just as I also imitate Christ” (1 Corinthians 11:1).

      You are right, if anyone looks at people (TPM ministers), they are sure to fall as the people they look at do not exhibit the character of Jesus in them. That’s why this site warns others to stay away from TPM ministers, lest they fall and make others fall too!

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      1. @ABAS

        To follow what you quoted the apostle Paul as saying in 1 Cor 11:1, are we to “imitate” admin and his friends because they “imitate Christ”?

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        1. @Vik G
          //are we to “imitate” admin and his friends because they “imitate Christ”?//

          Sure, you may imitate them, since you acknowledge that they imitate Christ. Thanks for the compliment.

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  6. @Getzy Sharon,
    You seem to be a eunuch, hermaphrodite, transvestite and so on…
    Since if you are a man or woman, you too come under the category of FRAUD according to your own interpretation.

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  7. I feel somewhat that this site has a smell of satanic church. Looks like they are holy blaming others and making others to fall. Let the Holy spirit guide everyone. Praise God…

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    1. Nobody invited to peep at our site. Why do you keep coming again and again to this site? If you think that we are trying to make people fall, you should not come. This forum is only for the fearless and Sincere ones.

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      1. Mr admin you can’t say anyone not to peep or why u come and visit your site,as as admin u should clarify people doubts,we set a standard by our reply,this kind of reply and coment shows our standard this reply of your is not done

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        1. Oh really? Why don’t your TPM Saints answer the questions we raise? When we ask the questions, you guys shamelessly tell us to get out of TPM. This is what I call Double Standards. Expecting others to comply when you have no intention in complying.

          In this particular context, the person Kelly is saying we are pushing people to fall. He/She has not ascribed any reasons for that. Probably it is just a TPM Clergy version. Therefore I asked as the admin, to take care of his/herself so that by peeping into this site should not be the reason for the fall. This is in line with Romans 14:23

          Last time you asked NMSTF to reveal his name. Why don’t you ask that to the TPM Clergy who publishes many books without the author’s name? First, look within oneself before commenting on others.

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        2. @Edison
          The following is what was preached last week in Tondiarpet. At least NOW, you guys need to open your eyes and see how the organization is valuing the services of your Brother in Law. For them he is just a cowdung now.
          Whatsapp Message follows


          தண்டையார்பேட்டை விசுவாசியே, நாம் பட்டுள்ள காயத்தின் மேல், இன்னும் அம்பை பாய்ச்சி, வேதனை உண்டு பண்ணுகிறதை இன்று நீ உணராதது ஏன். ஊழியர் லூக்கா யாரை துஷ்ட ஆமான் இனி உன் வழியில் வருவதில்லை அவன் முழுதும் சங்கரிக்கப்பட்டானு, யாரை சொன்னார். எஸ்தர் 7:6, வசனத்தை சொல்லி யாரை ஆமான் என்றும் எவளை எஸ்தருக்கு ஒப்பிட்டார் சிந்திச்சியா. பாவிகளா அப்படி மாம்ச பாவம் செய்யாத ஒரு பரிசுத்தவானை அபான்டமா பழி சுமத்தி அவரை ஊழியத்தை விட்டு அனுப்பியதை நியாயமாக்க பாக்குறீங்களேடா. 3 முறை அல்லேலுயா சொல்லிய மூட ஜனங்களாயிட்டீங்களே. நாம ஒன்று சேர்ந்து போராடியது, சபையையும், ஊழியத்தையும், ஊழியக்காரர்களையும் பாதுகாக்க என்று ஒருவரும் லூக்காக்கு சொல்ல மாட்டீங்களா? நாம போராடி ஜெயம் பெற்றதால் தான் அந்த சூனியகாரி இங்கில்லை. அந்த தைரியத்தில தான் இன்னைக்கு லூக்கா வந்து இவ்வளவு சத்தமா அப்பாவியை துஷ்டன்னு விளக்கி திசை திருப்ப பார்கிறார். வேதத்தில் எஸ்தர் யார்னு தெரியாதா உங்களுக்கு. நம்மில் எத்தனை ஞாயிறு பள்ளி ஆசிரியர்கள் இருக்கிறோம். அந்த வேசிப் பெண்ணை எஸ்தருக்கு ஒப்பிட்டு பேசிவிட்டாயே லூக்காஸ். அந்த பெண்ணே பாஸ்டர் ஜேக்கப் மாம்ச பாவம் செய்யலைன்னு சொல்லி விட்டது உனக்கு தெரியுமா?நீ எவ்வளவு கத்தினாலும் நீ பாஸ்டர் ஜேக்கபுக்கு இணையாக மாட்டாய். உன்னை போல பல பொறாமை பிடித்த ஊழியர்கள் தான் பாஸ்டர் ஜேக்கப் வெளியே அனுப்பப் பட காரணம். பாவமறியா இயேசுவை கூட பொறாமைகாரர்கள் தான் பழி சுமத்தி சிலுவையில் கொன்றார்கள். வேத வசனத்தை உன் தேவைக்கு திரித்து பேசி, தவறாக போதித்து ஜனங்களை ஏமாற்றலாம், ஆண்டவரை நீ ஏமாற்ற முடியாது. உன்னை நீயே பரிசுத்தவான் என்று கூறிக்கொள்ளாதே. சபையே பயப்படாதே, கர்த்தர் நம் பக்கம், அவர் நீதியின் தேவன். சூனியக்காரியை துரத்தி ஜெயம் கொடுத்தார். வசனத்தை சொல்லி, சாபம் விட்டு, பயம் காட்டுவான் பொல்லாத ஊழியன். பயப்படாதே. நம்மை பிரிக்க சதிசெய்வான். உறுதியாய் இரு. பிசாசு வல்லமையாய் கிரியை செய்கிறான். நம்முடைய கர்த்தராகிய ஆண்டவர் கிருபையும், இரக்கமும் உள்ளவர். உன் மீதும், உன் குடும்பத்தின் மீதும் மிகுந்த அன்புள்ளவர், காப்பார் பயப்படாதே. ஆமென். ———– தண்டையார்பேட்டை விசுவாசிகள் எல்லாருக்கும் ஷேர் பண்ணுங்க.


          But it is not a surprise that the brainwashed believers of Tondiarpet is swallowing it.

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        3. //தண்டையார்பேட்டை விசுவாசியே, நாம் பட்டுள்ள காயத்தின் மேல், இன்னும் அம்பை பாய்ச்சி…//

          No wonder TPM is very strict on the use of Whatsapp, FB, Internet and other modern communication tools, lest their members will be exposed to the truth and may initiate a revolt against their leadership – a very unmistakable and distinguishing characteristic of a cult.

          Hope this Whatsapp message reaches many TPMers and shake them up from their lukewarm state. Still the callous ones will mockingly advise the others to leave if they can’t follow their cult rules. Lord, have mercy on these people.

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      2. And nobody invites you and your friends to come and “peep” in at TPM.

        “Why do you keep coming again and again to “ peep in at TPM?

        “If you think that” TPM is “trying to make people fall, you should not come” and peep.

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        1. I don’t have to peep..I am in the midst of them. In fact, I cannot get away from them because of the circumstance I am in.

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    2. That’s what you wish!
      You wish that all you read were not true. Unfortunately it’s all true. It takes a lot of courage to get out of this cult. Most like you find an excuse and blame it on an unknown entity.
      Check in Google about what’s a cult and then come back to read all the articles again

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    3. @Kelly:
      //I feel somewhat that this site has a smell of satanic church//

      Your ‘feelings’ don’t determine if a forum is satanic, but it is determined by the Word of God (scriptures). Don’t be naive and heap accusations without basis. Quote scriptures to prove that this forum is satanic – you may do that by picking up any one article from this site and prove that it contradicts the Bible.

      You should spend less time ranting and raving about this forum and spend more time actually studying the articles on this site before expressing your criticisms. Or else, it is better to stay away from this site, as your biased opinions don’t benefit anyone including you.

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    4. Smell would disappear if the skeptics become like Bereans (Acts 17:11) .
      Verification and Validation should be the thumb rule.

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  8. //@Edison
    The following is what was preached last week in Tondiarpet. At least NOW, you guys need to open your eyes and see how the organization is valuing the services of your Brother in Law. For them he is just a cowdung now.
    Whatsapp Message follows//

    English translation is few sentences please…. much helpful.

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    1. Paste the full tamil script in Google translate and use the “read loud / Listen ” option in Tamil side .

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    2. Denzil u are moron and you talk rubbish ,use words like cowdung this clearly shows u don’t know Jacob,u just are a dumbo just peep into this web and speak rubbish remove the cowdung from your head and speak logic.
      I had to reply to this manner because u sounded like this.

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      1. @Edison,
        You should understand the context of the words. The context was based on a Tamil whatsapp Message where Jacob was compared to Haaman in the book of Esther.
        By Cowdung, it means the way they treated Jacob who served them for so many years. It does not mean that admin or Denzel considers him like that.


        தண்டையார்பேட்டை விசுவாசியே, நாம் பட்டுள்ள காயத்தின் மேல், இன்னும் அம்பை பாய்ச்சி, வேதனை உண்டு பண்ணுகிறதை இன்று நீ உணராதது ஏன். ஊழியர் லூக்கா யாரை துஷ்ட ஆமான் இனி உன் வழியில் வருவதில்லை அவன் முழுதும் சங்கரிக்கப்பட்டானு, யாரை சொன்னார். எஸ்தர் 7:6, வசனத்தை சொல்லி யாரை ஆமான் என்றும் எவளை எஸ்தருக்கு ஒப்பிட்டார் சிந்திச்சியா. பாவிகளா அப்படி மாம்ச பாவம் செய்யாத ஒரு பரிசுத்தவானை அபான்டமா பழி சுமத்தி அவரை ஊழியத்தை விட்டு அனுப்பியதை நியாயமாக்க பாக்குறீங்களேடா. 3 முறை அல்லேலுயா சொல்லிய மூட ஜனங்களாயிட்டீங்களே. நாம ஒன்று சேர்ந்து போராடியது, சபையையும், ஊழியத்தையும், ஊழியக்காரர்களையும் பாதுகாக்க என்று ஒருவரும் லூக்காக்கு சொல்ல மாட்டீங்களா? நாம போராடி ஜெயம் பெற்றதால் தான் அந்த சூனியகாரி இங்கில்லை. அந்த தைரியத்தில தான் இன்னைக்கு லூக்கா வந்து இவ்வளவு சத்தமா அப்பாவியை துஷ்டன்னு விளக்கி திசை திருப்ப பார்கிறார். வேதத்தில் எஸ்தர் யார்னு தெரியாதா உங்களுக்கு. நம்மில் எத்தனை ஞாயிறு பள்ளி ஆசிரியர்கள் இருக்கிறோம். அந்த வேசிப் பெண்ணை எஸ்தருக்கு ஒப்பிட்டு பேசிவிட்டாயே லூக்காஸ். அந்த பெண்ணே பாஸ்டர் ஜேக்கப் மாம்ச பாவம் செய்யலைன்னு சொல்லி விட்டது உனக்கு தெரியுமா?நீ எவ்வளவு கத்தினாலும் நீ பாஸ்டர் ஜேக்கபுக்கு இணையாக மாட்டாய். உன்னை போல பல பொறாமை பிடித்த ஊழியர்கள் தான் பாஸ்டர் ஜேக்கப் வெளியே அனுப்பப் பட காரணம். பாவமறியா இயேசுவை கூட பொறாமைகாரர்கள் தான் பழி சுமத்தி சிலுவையில் கொன்றார்கள். வேத வசனத்தை உன் தேவைக்கு திரித்து பேசி, தவறாக போதித்து ஜனங்களை ஏமாற்றலாம், ஆண்டவரை நீ ஏமாற்ற முடியாது. உன்னை நீயே பரிசுத்தவான் என்று கூறிக்கொள்ளாதே. சபையே பயப்படாதே, கர்த்தர் நம் பக்கம், அவர் நீதியின் தேவன். சூனியக்காரியை துரத்தி ஜெயம் கொடுத்தார். வசனத்தை சொல்லி, சாபம் விட்டு, பயம் காட்டுவான் பொல்லாத ஊழியன். பயப்படாதே. நம்மை பிரிக்க சதிசெய்வான். உறுதியாய் இரு. பிசாசு வல்லமையாய் கிரியை செய்கிறான். நம்முடைய கர்த்தராகிய ஆண்டவர் கிருபையும், இரக்கமும் உள்ளவர். உன் மீதும், உன் குடும்பத்தின் மீதும் மிகுந்த அன்புள்ளவர், காப்பார் பயப்படாதே. ஆமென். ———– தண்டையார்பேட்டை விசுவாசிகள் எல்லாருக்கும் ஷேர் பண்ணுங்க.

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      2. @Edison,

        I understand your filial zeal to defend your BIL but it would be great if you could be a bit more of a gentleman. Denzil is not your enemy and he knows Jacob’s condition better than anyone in this forum because he has been there and experienced TPM’s rejection first hand. The sermon which Denzel is refering to says that Jacob is dispensable just like any believer or worker who walks away from this cult. Jacob is a sincere man but his organisation has just dumped him and it is already preaching that he was the wicked Haman.

        Please tell Jacob to shed the white clothes(TPM’s fig leaves) and put on the Righteousness of Christ and he will be set free and then he can continue to minister for the Glory of God and not some organisation built on the fantasies of a pervert nudist Alwyn.

        He has already lost his seat in TPM’s Zion so no pint in trying to keep the white Juba. His fellow workers will not allow him to enter their zion since he has taken his hand off the yoke. Please ask him to follow Jesus and he will not face any such issues because He will welcome him home just like any sinner saved by His Grace alone.

        TPM has already rejected Jacob, when will you realise that you are in a cult and that you are being deceived and your hard earned money is funding the Beast?

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      3. “Matthew 5:22 King James Version (KJV)
        …..but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.”

        Finally the true colours are showing. If the truth doesn’t suit you then humiliate and discredit. Well that’s the trade mark of TPM.
        Wonder why TPM bhakts visit this site to see their golden calf /white clads being exposed but still persist with their
        demi gods.

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  9. @ADMIN
    “By Cowdung, it means the way they treated Jacob who served them for so many years. It does not mean that admin or Denzel considers him like that.”
    In a way the usage of COWDUNG ensures a better hygienic living standard in the TRADITIONAL
    Indian villiage system.The poor mud huts inside and outside would be pasted with the slur made out of the cowdung. It has got a strong deterrant action against snakes,mosquitoes, and flies that are prevalent in the Indian villiage environment and thus helps keep safety for a healthy living concept,
    JW could have been the used by this beast just as the cowdung does to the living system.

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  10. May be JW should be thankful to God as he had the oppurtunity to come out of it by nature ..which might be a good thing for him to know and find the truth before he actually meet the grand designer which many didnt get this previlige of coming out to see what reality is.

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