More about TPM Promise Cards

During my childhood, TPM sisters used to hand over few sketch pens and a bunch of rectangularly cut papers to us on December 31st morning. We were supposed to write one bible verse on each rectangular paper and decorate it by drawing small flowers on it. These handmade bible bookmarks were then distributed to the believers during the watch night service as promise verse for New Year. In contemporary times they distribute machine printed bookmark as New Year promise cards instead of the handmade ones. Continue reading to know more about TPM Promise Cards

Once the meeting is over, there is this curious showing of promises to others and some scramble to get a different verse because their promissory verse was not very promising.

The most wretched state is of that person who thinks that God is especially promising him/her for this New Year. Their blindness never ceases to exist.

History of the Promise Card

This practice of giving one promise verse to every member of the body of Christ seems fairly new (20th century) practice. The remotest history I could connect was “Holy Cards” or “prayer cards.” These were the Catholic version of what we call as bible cards.

There is no tradition of them being given on the new year, but they were similar in form to contemporary promise cards. Holy Cards had a picture of a saint, or Mary or an angel on them and a small prayer written on its backside. This tradition of Holy Card was probably replaced by Protestants latter. Protestants started using biblical texts instead of the picture of Mary/saints. Thus the only possible connection of contemporary bible cards with history is Holy Cards. This happened around 1400 A D. One interesting invention during the same time, is the Tarot card. Tarot cards like the Holy Card had Christian imagery in the earlier period of its existence. They were initially used for playing games and not for fortune telling. So it appears that the tarot card and holy card had the same beginning. Both began in around 1400 AD. And both have transformed into means of fortune telling. Both had pictures of Catholic saints and Catholic imagery printed on them. One remains as Tarot Card and other has become Christian version known as Promise card. However, its history beyond AD 1400 is missing. Bible has no such record mentioned in its pages. We don’t have any event recorded where Jesus stood before his disciples having 12 cards displayed in front of his disciples, asking them to pick one promise. It, therefore, seems that god of TPM started this practice in the 1900s of which he had no idea before that time to give one comforting promise to each member of his church for a forthcoming year.

Personalized Customization

TPM believers assume that God is giving each believer a personal promise for New Year. The problem with this mindset is that this makes scriptures revolve around “self of man.” It destroys the basic fundamental intention of God in giving scriptures – which is to make man crucify to its “self.”  It makes scriptures man-centric instead of it being Christ-centric and God-glorifying. TPM believers assume God is in the business of customizing meanings of scripture according to the condition and need of believer.  And one reason for this is a human act of dividing scriptures into chapters and verses for their own convenience. Do you know those original manuscripts of biblical books were never divided into chapters, verses until the 15th century? Modern division of scriptures into verses has paved in the way for people to isolate a part of the text from the entire paragraph, by use of identification number (chapter/verses). This has made possible for what we call “taking scriptures out of context.” Had there been no division into chapters and verses, there would have been no isolation of any statement from entire passage and then people would have not taken a particular statement of scripture out of context of the entire passage. If so each Bible book would have been one book. Yes! it would make lazy people read the entire book instead of one chapter or one verse, but it would have saved us from committing the blunder of customizing scriptural meaning according to our own understanding and imagination.

“Thus says the Lord GOD, Woe to the foolish prophets who follow their own spirit (Ezekiel 13:3)…,

Common TPM Tarot Cards

Before we end our conversation on “New Year Promise Verse” we will meditate on few scriptures which we all have been repetitively hearing in TPM as New Year promises.

  • The first verse which is very common in TPM is Isaiah 45:3. I will give you treasures of darkness and hidden riches of secret places. Almost all of us might have received this verse as New Year promise in TPM. TPM people normally think this is God’s promise to bless them with riches. They become so happy assuming God has promised them to materially bless them this year. This verse originally was meant for Cyrus the king of Persia. This was prophesied some 150 years before Babylon attacked Israel and led them captive. King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon had accumulated treasures from all over the world. This treasure was then captured by King Cyrus when the Babylonian kingdom was taken from Nebuchadnezzar’s son Belshazzar (Daniel 5) and given to Median Persian Empire. It was about this treasure (accumulated by Nebuchadnezzar and captured by Mede-Persian empire) the verse in Isaiah 45:3 speaks about. It is said by scholars that these treasures were subjected to King Cyrus by God, for the building of Temple in Israel (See Ezra 1:1, Isaiah 45:5). The next verse says “For my servant Jacob’s sake…Thus the reason why Cyrus was given “treasures of darkness” was for sake of Jacob (Israel) to build the temple. This is the original background context of Isaiah 45:3. TPM believers do not know this background. They read Isaiah 45:3 and imagine God is speaking to them about handing them hidden riches of secret places. If we try to perceive spiritually angle, it is Christ who is building his church the temple of God. He is our wisdom. Hidden mysteries about God’s plan were made known to Apostles, via Jesus Christ to his apostles (compare Col 1:26, Eph 3:5, Mat 13:44,52).
  • Another repetitive common promise of New Year is “Behold, I will make all things new.” Reading this verse people think God has promised of removing problems of poverty, sickness etc in coming to New Year. He will make all things new in New Year! And they get so excited. However, this verse is spoken in the context of renewing the entire creation of God. It is found in the 21st chapter of Revelation. It gives us hope that old creation in which we find death and sin in this world, because of Adam’s disobedience, will be gone. God will renew his creation. But the carnal mind of TPM believers thinks God will make their problems vanish in coming to New Year.  May God give them eyes to see scriptures as they are!
  • Another verse which we often find distributed in TPM is Isaiah 40:4, which says “Every valley shall be exalted and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight and rough places plain.” Again people take this literally. They assume God has promised to remove hindrances in their life. Life will be eased out. In my old TPM mindset, I got this verse as promise verse during my 12th standard days. I thought God fulfilled this promise in my life by making me get admission to engineering college. I thought hindrances of iron gates and mountain like difficulty hindering me from getting entry to engineering.  This is the story of most TPM believers. We associate our carnal life with spiritually Christ focused scriptures. The phrase “exalting valley and bringing mountain low” means bringing everyone on the same level. It means justice. It means those who are haughty and proud will be brought to knees. It means he will raise humble poor souls. It promised what justice Messiah will do. And it was fulfilled in the life and ministry of Jesus. High minded Pharisees who despised others as unholy, sinners and Gentiles were brought low. Sinners like Matthew the publican and sinner woman who broke her alabaster box were exalted by Christ. This was the justice of the Gospel, which was the Glory of God revealed through Jesus – the fulfillment of Isaiah 40. Isaiah 40 is soteriological in nature. It speaks of Glory of God which is Jesus (the express image of the father) being revealed to the world, and all flesh saw him (Isaiah 40:5). Isaiah 40 does not mean that God will make your and my earthly problems of job, health, marriage to be simplified. This is why we say that TPM believers are carnal! How could God’s glory in this verse be converted to give carnal promise to TPM believer?
  • Yet another verse often given as promise in TPM is “LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.” Again if you read the context of this verse you will find that this is a conditional promise. This is found in Isaiah 58. God is criticizing Israelites of their so-called sacrificial fast. God says “if you fast in the manner in which I desire, by sharing your part of bread with hungry and your part of clothes to naked then thy light will shine and then thou shall be like watered garden and springs of water. But TPMites cares no more about what is written above and below.

Purpose of Tarot Cards

Tarot cards are associated with divination and unlocking the secrets of the future by occult or supernatural means. Due to this association with divination, tarot is strictly prohibited in the Bible.

God warned His people, the Israelites, against divination when they were on the verge of entering the Promised Land. He lists divination among such evils as child sacrifice and casting spells in Deut 18:9–12. Leviticus 19:26 puts is blatantly: “Do not practice divination or seek omens.” Tarot card reading definitely falls within the scope of this prohibition.

What TPM is doing is, reaching close to the Tarot Card system but practicing that with the Verses of the Bible. Do not be a party to your own destruction by manipulation and misuse of scriptures (1 Pet 3:16).

The Spirit behind this system

These Tarot Cards or Promise Cards are tapping into the curious soulish realm of every carnal person. It’s therefore not at all surprising that the TPM Believers are also enticed into this trap.

Without a doubt, TPM is filled with worldly people. Nobody questions this “biblical tarot card system”.

Many of the promises also come from Deut 28 which we know is conditional (verse 1) and hence carries a curse for those who disobey even one very small part. Nevertheless, TPM brainwashed ones believe in those lies from the pulpit.

In other Pentecostal Churches, there are these “prophets” who promise great material fortunes to their people. TPM lacks such worldly smart people and that is where these promise lottery tickets come to play. Churches like these are cultivating miserable people with their eyes fixed on this world.

If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are of all people most to be pitied. 1 Cor 15:19

In Acts 16, Paul meets a fortune teller, a slave, who earned her masters a lot of money by fortune-telling (verse 16). The Bible attributes her ability to have a demonic spirit, which Paul was able to cast out of her by the name of Jesus Christ (verse 18). The Bible does not mention the tools the slave girl used to tell the future, but, whether tea leaves or dice or lots or cards of some type, the items used in that context brought honor to demonic spirits.

Serious New Testament Promises

If you would have noted these promises circulated by TPM, you will note that these are old testament conditional promises to Israel. What TPM does is, remove those conditions and the context, but just handover the promissory part. This is deception at best.

They are being pushed towards the broad way to destruction and the narrow way is closed forever. They are running after today’s material wealth and outsourcing away their eternity to frauds in white.

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. Matt 7:13

For a New Testament Believer, the New Testament also has many promises. These Promises are basically against our Fleshly desire and promotes our Spiritual wellbeing. I am sure that a Majority of TPM believers will abhor these promises. Let me cite a few.

  • These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 16:33
  • Yea and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2 Tim 3:12
  • If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 2 Tim 2:12
  • You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. Matt 10:22
  • Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. Rev 2:10
  • But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; Matt 10:17
  • If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. John 15:19
  • And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death. Rev 12:11

Now assume the condition of TPM believers if they get these real promises that Jesus Promised to them? I can guarantee that these carnal people will ask for a divorce from Jesus and start looking for other means.

Conclusion

TPM Believers gets puffed up about their gathering for watch night service. They think they are not like other men (Luke 18:9,11). But all their righteousness appears gloomy. They have tarot card style of fortune telling under the banner of New Year promise. Their New Year resolutions have root in pagan tradition of resolutions of Roman god – Janus (Check this article). Contrary to scriptures they make resolutions and break them (Matt 5:33-37, 21:28-32). Contrary to scriptures (1 Corinthians 14) they mass fill in unintelligible tongues. Contrary to the scriptural commandment (Romans 14:4-5) they regard one day (New Year) and despise other days (Christmas). They customize scriptures as per the desires of their heart. They get so excited and happy when they hear promise or prophecy “I will make your enemies your footstool” which is contrary to the commandment of showing love and charity. With all these evils, why do they puff so much about their watch night service and New Year meetings?

Solomon, the wisest person ever, offered this wisdom about knowing the future in Ecclesiastes 7:14:

“When times are good, be happy;
but when times are bad, consider this:
God has made the one
as well as the other.
Therefore, no one can discover
anything about their future.”

And in Ecclesiastes 8:7 he writes this:

“Since no one knows the future,
who can tell someone else what is to come?”

Only God holds the future, and only He truly knows what will happen (Isaiah 46:10).

If you desire to have peace about your future, turn to the Lord Jesus Christ. The future is bright for those who know Him (Romans 8:17).


Some useful links

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/tarot-cards-its-christian-thing-dave-dutton-fraser

http://leonbahrmanministries.org/christian-and-other-origins-of-the-tarot/

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25 Comments on “More about TPM Promise Cards”

  1. That is spot on.
    You will be amazed on how the SOG will pray over the tray containing thousands of cards and saying that the verse picked must be according to the needs of the believer prior distribution.
    Then it is even more comical when you see how these are picked. They tend to float their hands over the stack with a short prayer on their lips and pick one from the centre hoping that it will be the one from them.
    Then they will announce this through their testimonies when ever some material blessing come their way; causing the faith of other gullible’s to increase on this futile tradition even more.

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  2. The truth is that entire scripture is life imparting gift of God to believers. Every verse is for us, for reproof, correction, guidance and comfort, and not just a few lines from it!

    Tpm pastors are tearing pages of bible and giving it to believers – “this page is for you, this one for you and this part of this page for you.” Though this tearing is not done physically yet the effect is same, when they assign one verse out of entire scriptures as promise of God.

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    1. Boomerangs back to state that God too tears his word and gives one verse for today and another for tomorrow.

      You guys are crazy in viewing all things literally without knowing its essence. I too collect bookmark and doesn’t mean that’s the only verse for me. Comments are kiddish.

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        1. How many times have you got the below promises?

          These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. John 16:33


          Yea and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution. 2 Tim 3:12


          If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us: 2 Tim 2:12


          You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. Matt 10:22


          Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life. Rev 2:10


          But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; Matt 10:17


          If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you. John 15:19


          And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony, and they loved not their lives unto the death. Rev 12:11

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      1. If someone is interested in finding fault or make every action faulty then you can see such articles. But those are not meant for edification. Ignore it/them

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        1. @Jacob C
          @getting promise daily
          What do you mean by daily? Isn’t the whole bible already given to believers for comfort guidance? Don’t you have faith in entire bible as promise of God?

          @finding fault
          You people do everything in wrong way..! There is passage in Daniel 6, where 122 princes sough error in Daniel but they could not find none (Dan 6:4). So if TPM was faultless we could have found none fault in it. But sadly they have innumerable twisting and therefore we can find them. “Doesn’t your saints say that we should be so holy that satan himself should give testimony about us” The fact that there are 200 plus article suggests there 200 plus errors in your system and teachings. And sadly you are too proud to accept corrections honestly.

          “Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die. Proverbs 15:10 ” 

          @ Edification
          when you start correcting it is then you can start edifying. Without correction what is meaning of edification?

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        2. Well this getting promises on daily basis is a TPM expression. Where in the new testament is the Lord asking us to do this.
          I peter 1:4 clearly tells us that we have been already GIVEN exceeding great and precious promises ; that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
          A true christian will live with this faith and understanding every moment and not again wait for something which is already given.
          But as some one earlier suggested, if it is to be used as a book mark then no harm.

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  3. This is absolutely true especially using Bible verses out of context. All the doctrines of TPM are built on this. Great work, Admin, wishing you a great New Year, hope there will be more edifying articles in 2019 as well.

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  4. Finally, after a month-long prayer, the Chief Pastor of TPM got this promise from Isaiah to give to his church, which was actually promised to Literal Israel against their physical enemies. Now Let him also find an enemy against which it is Promised? Any Guess?

    When will people understand that Scriptural Prophecies are not for any private interpretation (2 Peter 1:20)?

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    1. This man is blind and deceived and all he is saying and doing is what he has been taught by his blind predecessors. The blind believers lap it up as holy manna just like the 1 billion plus Catholics eat what their vicar has been dishing out since centuries. Their god, the queen of heaven has been protecting them and will continue to do so till our Lord’s day and it will be the same for TPM which has the same origin.

      Just imagine the leader of this cult MT is still promoting Allwyn the pervert when everyone knows that he was a pervert and was possessed as he used to walk naked in the faithhome .

      Are these people so stupid that they continue to follow the teachings of this mad man? Can’t they understand that they are being deceived? Is there no sensible person in this cult who can stand up and make the required changes.

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      1. Is Pastor MT Thomas the new Chief Pastor? Sorry I am not aware of the latest updates, Not in the know although I stay in touch with few TPM folks.

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        1. Abraham Mathew is the Chief. However, if rumours are to be considered, there is a rift between both of them. Trust issues have surfaced. As with all other things in TPM, these are some things which you can never get any official confirmations. You can also expect them to show a unified face to the crowd.

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        2. Yes I understand that there are rifts going on….. When MT was pastor in KL, Malaysia, AM was his help and just joined. So by TPM governance standards how can he accept his superiority when he is many years his senior. There is no peace at the HQ itself….

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      2. Dear NMASTF
        The truth is that there is no sensible person in TPM. The reason is, they don’t want to be sensible & want to hear the lies. Therefore God has put a lying spirit in everyone to believe all sorts of lie, as it happened with the prophets of Ahab (I king 22:23). Now suppose anyone stood like Prophet Micaiah to tell the truth then the leaders of TPM would stand up like Zedekiah the son Chenannah to smite in the cheek of him (I king 22:24). Sad to say that all are controlled by the lying spirit.

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  5. I would imagine most of all so called SOG with anointing of zion would have quoted this or similar other verses from Deut, Isaiah or Psalms and proclaimed as new year assurance from their god to appease materialistic people. Charles prophesied that thus saith the Lord, I will shall make thee the head, and not the tail….

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  6. The title ‘TPM Promise Cards’ is apt to my following running commentary that touches both historical and traditional view points.
    Quite strangely ,there witnessed no prophesies uttered in KOOKKAWILA 2018 convention, immediately after entering into new year. That was a deviation
    from the common proto -call like that was hither being followed in almost all the Indian TPM branches. But not in CPM in KOKKAWILA(SRI LANKA) this year at least.There may be many reasons but chiefly it could be attributed to the possible RIFT between AM & MTT that I am hearing through these site columns . But do we know the facts?Who knows there may be an internal understanding and adjustment and arrangement between these two again.( because of the obvious reason that BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER ….I do not need to dwell on this matter much .)But a deeper analysis goes like this:
    Immediately after KOKKAWILA CON comes VIJAYAWADA CON in ANDHRA PRADESH . Normally TPM main HEAD does attend this heavy money spinning/collecting CENTRE of entire TPM. He never misses this huge money CASHE kind of CONVENTION. This VIJAYAWADA centre in particular traditionally generate so much of huge cashe of money boxes meant for IRUMBELIYUR. This year MTT was tipped to attend this convention at VIJAYAWADA. One can understand the fact behind it,In the yester-years too, the late Pas DON SPIERS used to attend this TELUGU land convention at the instance of the Head of TPM Clergy.These TELUGU land people are like sheep,and are lowly suppressed people that neither belong to either group,( M- & T ). They are not as intelligent as the other main TWO groups under reference . Please note M- for Malayala MANTRAM—-and T for tamil TANTRAM). No laughing . This saying has been an age old one. Almost all old TPM generation knows about proverbial code. But for a better understanding of why this CULT group has been expanding fast in these two TELUGU states is because of the innocent nature of this TELUGU people. IGNORANCE of the Word of God because of the low educational standard coupled with the lack of Scriptural knowledge has much contributed to the huge expansion of the CULT group in this land.That was why I quoted in my previous mails sent to this site: HOSEA 4: 6 ” MY PEOPLE ARE DESTROYED FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE: BECAUSE THOU HAS REJECTED KNOWLEDGE. I WILL ALSO REJECT THEE THAT THOU SHALT BE NO PRIEST TO ME.SEEING THOU HAST FORGOTTEN THE LAW OF THY GOD.I WILL ALSO FORGET THY CHILDREN.”This must be taken as a general WARNING for all of us including the CULT community at large. We must be grateful to ADMIN for imparting the vast SCRIPTURAL KNOWLEDGE . If we forget the greatest TWO commandments of Jesus -loving God whole heartedly, and loving thine neighbour as thyself, we ,who are edifying the church and are constantly in the business of witnessing for Jesus can pack up ourselves and can close down our shutters. Read further now as I now reveal some interesting news
    VIJAYAWADA , SECUDERABAD and TIRUPATHI are the three centres that this CULT group is fast expanding its wings . Amongst all the three,Vijayawada tops in generating new crop of SOG, and as well as believers yearly.
    VIJAYAWADA centre is the stronghold of rich KAMMA & REDDY communities that control this CULT group of this TPM in TELUGU land,The present centre incharge DHANA RAJ needs no introduction. ADMIN knows better about him. KAMMA and REDDY are the two traditional rich castes that contributed to the growth of this CULTISM in this TELUGU land.The believer group MAINLY comprise of few rich land lords and real estate business class but rest of majority
    of believers come from down trodden community.This is the sad part of the story of this CULT system to have spread it wings so wide in these two states.. Naturally the rich takes hold of this money spinning activity of this TPM tree to the whims and fancies of TPM Clergy in SOUTH INDIA. Tomorrow this VIJAYAWADA centre could become another TOOTTUKKUDI of TELUGU land because of love for covetousness that this site has been repeatedly exposing time and again to the regular readers of this site. Whoever comes as a centre Pastor for this VIJAYAWADA centre, he would
    become a small BILL GATES of TPM in 3/4 years,because of this particular KAMMA / REDDY community’s dominating factor. This centre generates huge monthly cash crops , for the TPM tree. Obviously this community hold the key for any major constructions of the CULT activity. Be it in IRUMBELIYUR huge constructions or the small churches be made with permanent slab constructions for which DHANARAJ was very much known such constructions. Ultimately the rich KAMMA/REDDY community.
    have their say in all most all the decision making activities.Well this is one part of the story. The another part of the story that was under wide circulation is that that AM got baptised by MTT when the latter was serving in MALAYSIA in yesteryears and the former was a Malaysian born believer and later joined the ministry;ADMIN may please check the veracity of this view which is under wide circulation. However I do thoroughly congratulate ADMIN and his TEAM for opening up the issue of NEW YEAR promise verse given by AM in SRILANKA (KOKKAWILA) and fallacy of the view. EAGLE’ EYE was very much armed with the proceedings that went in that CON and happy to fully wet the views expressed by ADMIN in the above article.

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    1. Well said @Eagle’sEye..
      My family and relatives are also part of this Cult Center.
      I am unable to bring them out of this even after explaining them all these stories Which I am truly believing from this site
      Somehow this time , I feel God thro’ me could stop alone my parents from attending this Vijayawada Convention and already the relatives(who are blind folded by this cult people) started poking us on this matter and they would inject our brains as a bad sign in near future(Lol)

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  7. Do not worry Maria Maria, we are all with you. Intercessory prayers are the need of the hour for your type of problem.After this VIJAYAWADA centre updates, you are going to hear more things about SEC’BAD centre incharge in the coming days,that how Shyam Sundar employs his techniques in composing the TELUGU songs that lures those innocent people. Already ADMIN has is fully exposed that matter in various articles. Only thing is: you have to surf through ,and get that material. Now that you have poured out your heart, timely help will from the Lord.Keep your conscience pure, Have an insatiable hunger and thirst for the Word of God and go through the scriptures preferably with THOMPSON chain reference Bible, coupled with THE OPEN BIBLE , the NKJV .Certainly God is going to speak to you.After that, ADMIN and his TEAM is anyway there for you on this site. Have a test for your faith in JESUS. Try to spend time SOLITARY with JESUS just as He often spent time with the FATHER when He came into this world.That comes through the searching of the scriptures and we will get the right answers. Many times the IRUMBELIYUR young man by name TEJU KURIEN uses his deceptive techniques in the INTRNL YOUTH CAMP as well as in SPECIAL BIBLE STUDIES, and simply turns the mind of the INNOCENT YOUTH away from the Lord,by uttering his own words, rather than quoting from the Scriptures. The sad part of it is ; the FLOCK simply believe it as if was the TRUTH that what ever comes from the mouth of the SOG it was a VEDA. There is no checking mechanism( WORD OF GOD) used. He does n’t have any base. while conducting that FQA session in the YOUTH CAMP He was given total LICENCE by the TOP MANAGEMENT of TPM Clergy. What ever
    property his father earned(reportedly 2 CRORES), he has given it to this CULT organisation.That amount formed a basis for raising the huge CONSTRUCTION in IRUMBELIYUR. What can we do. But the Spirit of the Lord would reveal us that he was surely misleading the FLOCK by not referencing the CONTEXT from the Scriptures.

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  8. I just have only one doubt….You who are continuously blaming all tpm activities and mocking even the promise verses, claiming that the whole bible is given for edification and the whole bible verses are promise verses, I also believe the same…that the whole bible is for our edification…
    But pls answer my doubt.1).Do you have a good conscience with God ,, Even after giving the whole bible for your edification ??? 2) Can u say boldly in this platform before God, that you people have never committed any sort of presumptuous sins, after getting the salvation?? 3) Can u boldly say that you are faithful in spending the time for prayer and bible meditation?
    4) can you people boldly say that ” I have never looked upon a girl /guy with lustful eyes after knowing the Bible truths..???
    5) Can u boldly say that “I have obeyed my parents in all aspects and given them the due respect that God expected???”
    6) Can u boldly say that ” I have never said a lie
    7) Can u boldly say that ” I have never justified my sins or wrong doings???
    If your answer to the above questions are ” No”, then that means God is so merciful in covering up your own sins, without publishing to others…Then are you not ashamed to highlight others sins??? It is God who has to judge, both you and me and them…You people have no authority to judge or mock others or even to highlight their sins…Can you show me even 1 verse in the Bible which gives you permission, to judge others????

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    1. //1).Do you have a good conscience with God ,, Even after giving the whole bible for your edification ???

      Why do you think we are here? Our Conscience is not based on our works of righteousness like that of TPM. Our conscience is clear based on the Sacrifice of His Son who blotted out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; Col 2:14

      Therefore, since we have been justified through faith(NOT BY WORKS, like TPM), we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, Rom 5:1

      There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus (NOT IN TPM), who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit(NOT THE DOs and DONTs of TPM) Rom 8:1

      20 If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 1 John 3:20-22


      // 2) Can u say boldly in this platform before God, that you people have never committed any sort of presumptuous sins, after getting the salvation??

      Nobody is saved by their actions like how TPM Preaches. Sin is a state of being for all humans. The Psalmist says If you, O LORD, should mark iniquities, O Lord, who could stand? Psalm 130:3. We all are saved by Grace and that is the reason for us being called Saints. However, as you know, in TPM, the white-clad clergy are called SAINTS and the others are categorized as lower category Christians. Does the Bible approve of that?


      //3) Can u boldly say that you are faithful in spending the time for prayer and Bible meditation?

      We are not of those who commend ourselves and compare with others.
      We do not dare to classify or compare ourselves with some who commend themselves. When they measure themselves by themselves and compare themselves with themselves, they are not wise. 2 Cor 10:12


      //4) can you people boldly say that ” I have never looked upon a girl /guy with lustful eyes after knowing the Bible truths..???

      You seem to be typically confused the TPM way. In TPM, it means that if you are attracted to a person of the opposite sex, you are lustful. But that is not what the bible says. The Bible says that from a coveting perspective. Look at how David looked at Bathseba. That look of covetousness is what Jesus is pointing to. That is exactly the test in the 10th commandment where Paul realized that he failed in it (Rom 7:7-25). Coveting means intending to get somebody’s spouse. Yeah in my case I did like a girl and then I married her and she is my beautiful wife. Any Problem with you?


      //5) Can u boldly say that “I have obeyed my parents in all aspects and given them the due respect that God expected???”

      Absolutely.As a Child and then a teenager I did obey and for disobedience, I was also punished at times. You also need to understand that this commandment of obedience is till you become an adult as the obedience commandment is for CHILDREN. Eph 6:1. But when you are an adult, you are expected to Honour your parents(Exo 20:12). Honour does not mean Obedience, it means to respect and reverence and taking care of them. You may have your own views on the subjects and your parents are just expected to advise but not coerce you as when you were a child. TPM ministers abandoning their parents is one of the highest visible forms of DISHONOURING THEIR PARENTS.


      //6) Can u boldly say that ” I have never said a lie
      //7) Can u boldly say that ” I have never justified my sins or wrong doings???

      Again your typical TPMics in picture. I hope you saw Ans 2.


      You ought to read the “about us” section. Our intention and purpose are not to highlight anybody’s personal sins. Quoting from the about us Section

      The Purpose of this site http://www.fromtpm.com is to bring out the devious teachings of this denomination. We also aim to bring out practices which are alien to the Church of God. Our Mission is to expose the devious techniques that are used by TPM to bring people into bondage. Most of its members do not realize this treachery which they are undergoing.

      It should also be noted that this site is not hosted for the purpose of demeaning any individual of the organization. However, to prove the authenticity of an incident we might need to reveal some names. The writers assume that the TPM Ministers and Believers are caught up in a vicious cycle of lies which they believe to be the truth. The basis for all assertion on doctrinal position would solely be the Holy Bible. If you feel that we are deviating from the scriptures, please call us out in the comments section. You are always free to contact us at admin@fromtpm.com


      If we had to highlight all the scams and personal sins which we get reports of, we would be having no time to do other things. Believe me its really scary.

      I have answered all your question. Now will you answer my ONE question?

      How do you plan to follow the commandment in Eph 5:11-13?

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    2. //1).Do you have a good conscience with God ,, Even after giving the whole bible for your edification ??? 2) Can u say boldly in this platform before God, that you people have never committed any sort of presumptuous sins, after getting the salvation?? 3) Can u boldly say that you are faithful in spending the time for prayer and bible meditation?
      4) can you people boldly say that ” I have never looked upon a girl /guy with lustful eyes after knowing the Bible truths..???
      5) Can u boldly say that “I have obeyed my parents in all aspects and given them the due respect that God expected???”
      6) Can u boldly say that ” I have never said a lie
      7) Can u boldly say that ” I have never justified my sins or wrong doings???//

      Dear Sister,

      With regards to your holiness challenge, I’d like to share my point of view.
      (It’s been my intent to stay passive for a while, but can’t help replying)

      When I was 9 years old, I was for the first time exposed to the lottery aka.. New year promise cards… in our center.

      If you wanted a legalistic answer to the below: at age 9, I would have certainly passed the test with flying colours (speaking in the TPM legal style).

      It so happened that on that blessed morn, I got a poor call… the promise card was not very encouraging… It read : Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

      The following Sunday, I was being summoned rather condescendingly by the elder brother (Center pastor would hardly stay in the center those days).
      I realised later that he was trying to exorcise evil spirits within me, based on the notion that I have gotten a very sorry promise for the New year.

      Do you realise what I am saying? There are many verses in the Bible… we cannot cherry pick based on fleshly motions. The whole Bible (Word made flesh) is given to us for our salvation and for our growth in His character.

      Especially during prophetic TPM utterances like ‘ I will destroy your enemies’… the whole congregation erupts in euphoria, awaiting fire and brimstone to fall upon someone they hate.

      Do you know that the sons of Josiah hated Jeremy the prophet for just one reason… he would not become a soothsayer, but would stay faithful to what counsel was conveyed through him.
      Their lone request was to dissuade the man of God from prophesying negatively.

      I believe that fromtpm.com is the Jeremiah of the day, sent to rebuke TPM. You can choose to belittle it at your own peril.

      Regards, CDJ

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  9. @sheena
    Admin has spoken my heart out on most of your questions.

    We have no rivalry or bitterness against any of TPM workers, although we all have witnessed their arrogance & wickedness. We realize they are humans. The problem is their hollow tall claims and false ideologies which they propagate about ability of humans to please God by their works of righteousness. Please read (https://www.fromtpm.com/blog/2017/11/20/tpm-replacing-grace-with-monastic-life/).

    Taking people out of TPM wont help achieve our purpose because if it happens then new tpm will be made in another name. We are more interested in dealing with false doctrines of TPM, so that people might put TPM out from within themselves compared to coming outside TPM and making another TPM.

    Exposing evil works of workers is just one of the weapons we are forced to use at some times because of general public. General humanity have tendency to neglect truth and get attracted to spicy stuff. If we don’t do this people keep on harping that our saints are great. Exposing their evil fruit is needed in order to make people understand futility of trusting in self righteousness.

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