The Pied Piper of TPM and his hermeneutics

One of my favourite TPM Pastor is M. T Thomas. This is because he makes it very easy for people to spot, errors in TPM Doctrines. There were times when he used to preach about getting money by the power of RPD. Those days I used to get confused by his confidence in Vain Repetitions to get money. It takes time and an opening of your eyes of understanding to get out of this enchantment. Many years back, there was a Piper who tricked little kids out of their homes and took them all, to their destruction. All that he used was his pipe and his ability to generate soul grabbing music. If you have not heard of the pied piper, just watch the below video.

The modern Pied pipers of TPM also have this capability of using their enchantment. Just like how the Pied Piper of Hamelin used his tune to lure away the rats and the kids, M T Thomas has that same capability. His smile and friendliness should not be confused when it comes to doctrine and teachings. Do not be like those kids of Hamelin who did not understand the true intent of the Piper. Now let us jump into the Tune of M T Thomas which I would also call as TPM Hermeneutics.

Does Scripture command us to remove Jewels?

The Pied Piper of TPM and his hermeneutics
The Pied Piper of TPM

This was the focus of M T Thomas in the TPM International Youth Camp 2018. I do not have an issue with anybody wearing Jewels or not wearing Jewels. Sadly this is one topic which has been manipulated by TPM Pied Pipers to lure away ignorant people after their ways.  They use half-baked scriptures out of context to manipulate people. Moreover, they say that IT IS GOD WHO SAID IT when in reality God never said any such things. So when we bring such rules and blame it on God, it is a serious issue. This is nothing other than TAKING THE NAME OF GOD IN VAIN. Hear the below audio snippet where MT Thomas is blowing his pipe with the full force of deception. He starts with saying that if you do not wrestle according to the rules, you will not be crowned. He is quoting 2 Tim 2:5. I guess he had a lapse of thought and assumed that he was the one setting the rule. Somebody needs to remind him that the rules are already set and he is just a wrestler flouting all those rules.

The Piper now sets the premise by announcing that the rules he is about to say is directly from God and not of the Church (0.24 to 0.40). Now that he has conditioned the crowd by taking the name of the Lord in Vain, for his manipulative work. Let us proceed.

He gives a reference to read. 1 Tim 2:9-10

In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array; 10 But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works.

Note the semicolon(;) before the “BUT” at the start of verse 10

Continue to hear it from 0.40 and see how MT Thomas assumes a full stop instead of comma/semicolon and quickly jumps to a different verse without even allowing verse 10 to be evaluated.  Why is he afraid of completing the sentence by reading verse 10? Why is he putting a FULL STOP where the Scripture has a COMMA or SEMICOLON? Now assume a scenario when you start putting FULL STOPS before all the “BUT”s in the scripture. We will then be reading Satan’s word and not the scripture.

He now asks to read out 1 Peter 3:3-4

Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.

Here also he does the same Manipulation. The SEMICOLON is converted to a FULL STOP and the evaluation of the scripture is stopped before verse 4 is read out. He then quickly jumps to a different topic. You should also note that M T Thomas is saying that God HATES Ornaments when neither in Timothy or Peter that was an inference. He is pushing his teaching into a scripture which does not say so.

This is how TPM enforces their erroneous doctrines in the name of God. But is Paul or Peter saying what M T Thomas is inferring? I do not think so. If you read the context, what the writers are saying is that we should not spend our time and effort in adorning our external person BUT rather concentrate on the internal man. What MT Thomas is doing is fooling people to enforce certain unbiblical practices of TPM. This is how dishonest men treat God and Scriptures before Ignorant People. They do not revere God before the people.

BEWARE OF DOGS, beware of the evil workers, beware of the false circumcision;  Phil 3:2

Applying TPM Hermeneutics to another similar Scripture

I will quote another scripture below and let us see if M T Thomas and his Organization can be consistent in applying the same flawed logic to it.

Labour not for the meat which perisheth, BUT for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed. John 6:27

Let us apply the MT Thomas Logic and put a FULL STOP before the “BUT“. Obviously, that would mean that all TPM Believers should resign their jobs and stop working.  If they are Farming or in some business, they should stop that as well. The above verse is said by Jesus Christ Himself. Therefore, it should carry more weight than the words of Paul and Peter. Let MT Thomas be consistent in his hermeneutics. If somebody is friends with MT Thomas, please ask him and let us know his logic.

Conclusion

Dear Reader,

The New Testament is NEW and the Law is written in the Hearts of Men.

“This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds.” Heb 10:16

Let not the Evil workers of Circumcision force you into what they believe to be true. You should stick to the Scripture for any substantial reasoning.

Watch out for those people who behave like dogs! They are evil and want to do more than just circumcise you.  Phil 3:2

This issue of Jewel Wearing in TPM is akin to forcing a non-veg person to be vegetarian because the rest are so. Where the scripture is not explicit on certain things, we should also leave it to the personal choice of the one who wears it. Why try to interfere where you are not required to do? This is legalism at its best.

Dear MT Thomas and Co,

Stop using the Name of the Lord in Vain. This is a direct Violation of the Third Commandment.

“You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God, for the Lord will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name. Exodus 20:7

For your information, God does NOT HATE any of the Jewels or Gold. If it was such a hateful thing he would not have adorned his bride in that and also explained in those terms. In your excitement to go to Zion, you seem to have ignored New Jerusalem.

18 The wall was made of Jasper, and the city of pure gold, as pure as glass. 19 The foundations of the city walls were decorated with every kind of precious stone. The first foundation was jasper, the second sapphire, the third agate, the fourth emerald, 20 the fifth onyx, the sixth ruby, the seventh chrysolite, the eighth beryl, the ninth topaz, the tenth turquoise, the eleventh jacinth, and the twelfth amethyst.[f] 21 The twelve gates were twelve pearls, each gate made of a single pearl. The great street of the city was of gold, as pure as transparent glass.  Rev 21:18-21.

Stop your manipulation at least now, for your own good. You may convert a comma to be a full stop. Do not assume that God is pleased with that.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Matt 5:18

18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. Rev 22:18-19


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இந்த படிப்பினையை தமிழில் கேட்க கீழே கிளிக் செய்யவும்

 

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28 Comments on “The Pied Piper of TPM and his hermeneutics”

  1. // 1 Peter 3:3

    3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of PUTTING ON OF APPAREL; 4 But let…..////

    By Pas MT ‘s logic putting on of apparel also is against God…… Well cherry picking is an art mastered by TPM workers.
    Alwyn went a step forward and “practised putting on of apparel part” (as heard from old TPM believers)
    Heard Pas MT has high regards for Alwyn.
    Pray that God opens the eyes of TPM believers soon !!!

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  2. In such an important meeting with the generation of tomorrow, instead of guiding them on what sin is, sexual sins, ways to overcome it, the narrow way, glorifying Christ through their daily lives etc , these wolves in sheep clothing would capitalize on optics of holiness such as consecration, jewels, white clothes, false tongues, etc.
    As mentioned in Gal 5:4, it is very clear that Christ is become of no effect to these wolves, as they are still being justified by law and have fallen from grace. as they were never led by the Spirit (verse 18) . Every message we hear from TPM it becomes very clear. His second in command T/Durai is very much on the same bandwidth and working his best to turn as much as possible to hell.
    Of all the ways one could go to hell as told by Jesus in the four Gospels, no one has ever been to hell due to Jewels.
    But many in hell today would be the ones who outwardly removed jewels, wore whites but did not know Christ.

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  3. I would like share my personal experience about removal of Jewels. I was born and brought in a hindu family . So I had no chance to remove my jewelry. But somehow since this TPM was near to my house we went there. Initially for one year there was no problem. But as times passed by servants of God used to talk with my husband in my absence and they moved through him to remove my jewelry. Once pastor Johnson ( He was the centre pastor of Coimbatore after transfer from IBR. )during a sermon told that if husband is saved then wife should remove jewels ,only then they can inherit Zion. After some weeks listening to this sermon I had a dream also regarding second coming and I was not able to go because of Jewels. (Actually that dream was against the second coming mentioned in scripture. And it took me time to analyse how the devil is also able to give dreams).
    So I thought it was from God and removed it. But it was during those period without jewels I felt a pride by seeing people with jewels. I removed it for my daughter also. Then I realised something was hindering my spiritual life . Then my own sister who lead me spritually started to guide with verses from the Bible. I was convinced and again wore my jewelry. Though I did not move from TPM immediately this incident started creating doubts about their doctrine and it took me three years to leave TPM. Now iam completely free and I understand that Jesus looks at our heart and not our outward appearance. After coming out of this cult there was a drastic change in my spiritual experience. Iam able to pray well and share the love of Jesus . There were many more incidents where these SOG tried to separate me and my
    spouse . They are family spilters not servants of GOD. Jesus speaks to all HIS children and if something is hindering our
    spiritual life there will be a red signal from
    the holy spirit. We need not adhere to man made rules to get closer to Jesus. Thank you Jesus for delivering from this cult.

      1. If God speaks I will remove but just for people’s sake I cannot,. I want all my family members to get saved many are still idol worshippers , only me and my sister are saved. If we tell all these rules and regulations nobody will even listen the gospel what we say. Also there are no scriptural basis to remove that. I want to follow Mathew 28:19-20 in my life . When jewels hinder to share gospel with my own family members , I feel it is of no use ! This is why I dont remove jewels. It is not hindering my spiritual life in any sense. I clearly mentioned in my comment.
        //But it was during those period without jewels I felt a pride by seeing people with jewels.

        As you know the spirit of pride is not from Jesus. I started considering people with jewels inferior to me. And as a girl born in India I don’t want any person to approach me thinking that Iam not married. For my wedlock shows me that Iam married. These problems if you are a guy I think you may not understand. Hope my answer clears your doubt !

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        1. the way tp maniacs handled you and the other believers is a not acceptable .. but
          most born again congregations advise their members to remove it politely ,not the way the tpm threatens .

          anyways few references from the bible . .

          1 tim _2:9
          Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,

          1 Peter 3:3 .
          Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear—

          Romans 12:2
          Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

          /////”If God speaks I will remove but just for people’s sake I cannot,”/////

          above verses spoken by God only in case if you don’t know ..?

          ///////”If we tell all these rules and regulations nobody will even listen the gospel what we say.”/////

          ok i thought people convicted by the Holy spirit and not by our appearance , ornaments or the comfort cross .

          you have the freedom to not only wearing the ornaments , you can go for movies along with them so that they wont be offended and easy for you to share your gospel during the intervals .

          *just asked because most of your posts showed your obsession on ornaments .
          happy journey ..

        2. @ Hannibal
          Though this question is for Sister Surya, my personal suggestion is to not take these passages literally as that will lead to legalism. We need to discern it spiritually and let everyone be fully convinced in their hearts about it.
          Taking those passages literally will create the following anomalies in our modern day.
          1. Men can do all those things as the passage applies ONLY to women.
          2. It does not say about Luxury cars,Opulent houses,Expensive gadgets etc. So shall we get those just because we can afford it and a literal translation of the scriptures does not forbid it?
          3. In our age,in India, its mostly poor women who braid their hairs because they do not have expensive clips. But among many african women, it is an expensive business. Check out the photos of both.

          I would therefore, go behind the Spirit in which the Apostles wrote. If we understand the Spirit, we will behave accordingly otherwise we will end up with TPM Legalisms.

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  4. There are two who reads this topic.

    1) One who rejects jewelry
    2) and the other who accepts jewelry

    Christianity prefers that we not concentrate on our outer appearance but instead, build our inner beauty.

    [Consider this situation, from a wordly view.

    If I was stranded in a unoccupied island, it would not matter how I dress up, there is no one to see me.
    It would even not matter if I wore clothes. In time, I shall get used to living as I want.

    But when I find my way back home, and start living as I did on the island, being careless, then it not only causes issue to me, but as well as others.]

    As a Christian, as long as we are ashamed of our nakedness, if not clothes, we will get some leaves in there.

    Christianity is giving the other person more importance than our ownselves. Our lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords , gave us more importance than we ever deserve, by giving Himself for us. The best definition for love that I understood through Jesus Christ is, ‘doing the best thing for someone’.

    (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K80pozOfrU)

    This Jesus came to earth for us who are counted as dust of the earth. He put us in priority when no one did or will do like He did. And by laying down His life for us, we have nothing else to do, than to live back for Him. Whatever we do, our eyes need to be on ‘eternity’. If we can comprehend this, we would not be worried about things of this world. He gave to us Christians, the dignity we don’t deserve, and by doing so, we respect him back as much as possible. One of the reasons I choose to follow Him, is because He chose me first. Everthing we do, has a return. If not in this world, we shall receive it after we are long gone.

    Coming back to our topic, what is the main reason for us wearing jewelry, fine apparel, etc?

    It is because of culture?
    Is it because of tradition?
    Is it because it gives us confidence?
    Is it because it provides us safety?
    Is it because ‘I dont care what people say’?
    Is it because we want to look better?
    Is it because we want add value to our ownself?
    Is it because we want to continue what we were doing before we came into this faith?

    Choose the best answer out of the above, and it will still be an ‘excuse’ and not a valid reason when we are gathered.

  5. The only reason if at all one chooses not to wear jewelry or anything expensive from a Christian point of view, is to maintain an orderly code of conduct when gathered among believers, putting others in priority than our ownself. Most of the epistles is instructions on how a Christian is to be and how he becomes an example to others by being a Christian. That is the reason Paul says in

    “1 Cor 14:5

    5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification. ”

    The gift of speaking in tongues is a gift of speaking in an unknown language without having had any formal training. It is not the ‘praying in spirit’ as done by the pentecostal movement. All that gives is an emotional stress relief like going to a ‘satsang’ will. Today, thankfully each one of us can speak two languages at the best. There are places where the gift of unknown tongue is still occuring, where one can speak a tongue with no prior knowledge about it. So when people started to misuse the Gift of tongues, Paul had to instruct them,

    1 Cor 14:26-28

    “26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God.”

    Similarly, Paul instructs in “1 Timothy 2:8

    8 I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; 9 in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, 10 but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.”

    lining with “1 Peter 3:3-4

    3 Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel— 4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. ”

    As the strength of Christians increased day by day, the Apostles were inspired by God to instruct the churches about the code of conduct. These Christians had come from different backgrounds, different traditions and customs and so forth, so Paul, Peter, and the rest of the apostles, instructs that when we gather, let us do everything for the edification of the church.

    If you read the before verses of 1 Peter 3:1-2, it speaks why Peter instructs this code of conduct.

    “Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, 2 when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear.”

    When we maintain our modesty because we value the other person more, there is a high chance that they shall obey the word of God, because we are living an examplary life. Even though this is mainly written in context with the submission of Wives to Husbands, it also goes the other way around in a different manner that husbands maintain a good code of conduct, as we husbands have submitted ourselves to God.

    A church is a gathering of Wives, husbands and children.

  6. How are we maintaining our code of conduct when we gather?
    Do we value other brothers and sisters selflessly more than ourselves?
    Are we doing it all for the glory of God?
    Do we present ourselves to be branches of the True Vine?

    Or

    Are we doing it for denominational practices?
    Are we doing it so we can despise others who are not wearing jewelry?
    Do we think that those who wear jewelry are inferior to us?
    Are we filled with spiritual pride?

    What is the main reason for our gathering? is it for all brothers and sisters to be edified, or is it to edify our own self?

    If we can understand this, we will not be worried about jewelry, or other things which is significant compared to jewelry, like the expensive watch we wear, the phone we carry, the shoes we want to wear, the fine apparel we want to adorn ourselves with, the white n white show off we want to do?

    There are believers who would have had nothing to eat that morning, and yet come to church to be among like-minded believers, but when they come to church, they see a difference between poor and rich, there is no unity, so Paul asks us today also

    1 Cor 11:21-22

    “21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.”

    All of these code of conduct points to Mark 12:31 of the second greatest commandmant.

    “31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

    Conclusively, the question then becomes ‘Are we giving our brothers and sisters more piority than ourselves?’

    “1 Cor 14:40

    Let all things be done decently and in order.”

    When we step into eternity with Jesus, we can see the magnificient kingdom of gold, pearls and exquisite metals that are beyond the periodic table. This is not a ‘license to wear’ as some might think, but a maginificient place awaits for us made of gold and pearls that cannot be destroyed. Let us not lose that which is forever, for something temporary as our life on this earth is.

    ‘We are Christians, wherever we are.’ This is my belief. One of my best friend is a catholic, and he feels ashamed even to speak a bad word in front of me, let alone a bad action. The reason is he himself says, that he can see me becoming better and better in my behavior, even though he knows that I once was a wicked man who suppressed the truth in unrighteousness. The outer appearance should be a reflection of the inner transformation of God’s love in our lives. Without the Love of Christ, all would be but vain.

    Do not hold anyone guilty for your own preferences.

    Exhorting you to become more fervent in Christ.

    പ്രവൃത്തികൾ 26:28,29

    28 അഗ്രി:,പ്പാ പൌലൊസിനോടു: ഞാൻ ക്രിസ്ത്യാനിയായിത്തിരുവാൻ നീ എന്നെ അല്പംകൊണ്ടു സമ്മതിപ്പിക്കുന്നു എന്നു പറഞ്ഞു. – അതിന്നു പൌലൊസ്;
    29 നീ മാത്രമല്ല, ഇന്നു എന്റെ പ്രസംഗം കേൾക്കുന്നവർ എല്ലാവരും അല്പംകൊണ്ടാകട്ടെ അധികം കൊണ്ടാകട്ടെ ഈ ചങ്ങല ഒഴികെ എന്നെപ്പോലെ ആകേണം എന്നു ഞാൻ ദൈവത്തോടു അപേക്ഷിക്കുന്നു എന്നു പറഞ്ഞു.

    1. very well said John. it is to be understood in that manner. the jewellery issue is a nasty issue. we have much more important matters to deal with. it is love that is the mark of a Christian and not goldfull or goldless.
      our mind set is important and nothing else. why i want to wear such things or make myself attractive or impressive or acceptable or respectable? that craving is not from love as it will certainly offend the less fortunate and less privileged persons. it is always the Christian modesty that is important. one has to bear in mind that he is a steward of the wealth of God and that wealth is not his own. spending for decoration of oneself is not compatible with the christian modesty. a balanced real life is expected to maintain love. what we see among rich believers is that they have no vision about simple life. they create agony and frustration and disappointment in the poor believers. this shows lack of love. who will practice love in every walk of life? he will simply love and love others and try to empty himself and desire to be living in simplicity. if Gandhiji has understood what real love is why not the so called people who profess to be holier than him???? He understood it and practiced it till death. we preach love and we seldom practice it. love shares. if one has sharing pattern in his life he cannot be going after or running after fancies and luxuries of life. wearing gold or not wearing it is nothing if we start practicing sharing type of life. the gospel needs to be spread to many parts of our own India. many many so called Christians are also rushing to hell fire without realizing their responsibility. how would we share our love for them. if we spend for it or be spent away for the cause of the gospel we will not quarrel for gold or apparel. the spirit of becoming important here on earth is from the devil who will bewitch anyone unless he is cautious. let us run away from being important persons. let us start loving the gospel and loving others by sharing, anything and everything as far as we can. TPM style is self/ego gratifying only. as one sister said, the lady without jewelry would look down upon the other lady wearing gold. white robed will look down upon the other without it. this is hypocrisy about whom Jesus said whitened sepulcher. outside is white and inside is dirty.

  7. Looks like MT and AC and Alwyn are all cut from the same cloth. Heretics.

    Recently I had the opportunity to meet someone who lived during the Alwyn era and he told me an interesting thing about this TPM stalwart. During Alwyn’s hey days, he used to sit on the podium with his back turned to the audience unlike the TPM elite, who these days who face the congregation. This man must have been a lunatic, just wondering if MT and his merry men are any better as they are unabashedly praising this pervert.

    I feel so sorry for all the folks who are still trapped in this cult. Lord have mercy.

    1. The weird argument for Alwyn to turn back is because of the belief that Glory used to come out of his face which made many people almost blind…What all stories you get.

    1. @bla,

      Is it a question or a statement? On both counts it is true as far as I can recall hearing olden sermons.

      Those days, folks were exhorted to wear white even to offices (90’s) I know it was just empty rhetoric but that much emphasis was given on becoming more holy than the Church in Sardis.

  8. I remember my one and only time to youth camp in 2001 I believe. I had set off to youth camp in the idea that I will get anointed in the holy spirit (unknown tongues as claimed by tpm). I had heard testimonies of youths coming back from youth camp, and so being influenced by it, I wanted to experience a similar thing myself. There are so many things happening at this camp, that is so disgusting to discuss (unsure how it is these days), youths who were perverse in their behavior but as soon as the anointing time, they would roll and end in different places, i got severely hit by a known youth as I had closed my eyes and was praying for the anointing. Some of the pastors would urge speak, speak.

    Then I thought lets move a bit closer to where the pastors, probably God will anoint me then, this time in the front, I got hit by another youth. I wondered then and there ‘why would God do it this way’, ‘maybe it is the Holy Spirit hitting me to pray more’. I was a kid then, and as a kid, you would even believe santa claus is real. It is then I decided, I am done. I had read bible several times by that age, not one single person who got anointed in the OT, or in the NT behaved like how I witnessed in the youth camp. I returned as I had gone. A year later, i left tpm. I was 15 years old. And through the years, I was in a confused state (attending tpm meeting once in a year for the next 5 years) I did not come across anyone who felt about tpm that way. According to tpm ‘leaving them’ is backsliding. I thought I had backslided. And then I claimed to be atheistic, while I was agnostic. It was until a decade later, spending time on the Word of God, helped me to understand that I was not yet saved. In 2016, I believed in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and accepted the Gift of Salvation that was extended to me. 2 years later, I obeyed God through Baptism. It is a wonderful journey.

    Tpm concentrates on the outer disciplination followed by inner transformation. But this method gives place to spiritual pride of our own works. ‘I wear white n white, i don’t wear jewels, i dont have medicine’, they forget the Grace of God that brought us into salvation and continue in their spiritual pride as ‘state of holiness’ for the rest of their lifetime. I understand it is hard for people to leave tpm, because it is their only known world. Any True Christian whose desire is to be with Jesus will not be under the legalisitic, exclusive doctrines of tpm.

    Even though my family continues to be in tpm. I can decide to just pray, but I take any opportunity that I can get to explain the consequences, ramifications by staying in tpm. I made my choice for myself and for my future generations(if our Lord’s coming is delayed), that they not be under these kind of man-made denominations. When will you make a choice to be not a slave under these doctrines? You should know that despite being warned, you are spiraling towards not only your own spiritual demise, but the spiritual demise of the generations that may follow.

    We would not abort an unborn child, but we willfully send our children to spiritual death. Sad!

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    1. I used to take safety pins as a precautionary method and inject whoever hits me during youth camp’s anointing. Some guys even go to sisters side during anointing.

      1. I would be eager to see an article on the IYC practices, some are downright ugly.
        Checked your website and could not find one….
        Admin, if you are inspired to, you could consider writing on this topic, as many believers think that IYC’s are life altering experiences.

  9. The vehement scathing attack on TPM ministers and their followers makes me to wonder that this redeemed group will or have been convinced to state that the;

    – People convicted and coming to TPM is deception.
    – Water baptism given by ministers which this group claims as fraudster and satanic, holds invalid and had to be re-baptized.
    – Holy spirit received in TPM is fake and some evil spirits is working in every ministers and children of God in this denomination.
    – Life lived by the admonishes and orderliness is questioned.

    Seeing these and questioned myself, I feel this is going no where, but creating ruckus. But one thing is sure, the children of God are able to read between the scriptures to understand and fine tune their relationship with God.

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    1. //People convicted and coming to TPM is deception.

      People Convicted of what? Ask an average TPM Believer and show him one of the hundreds of unbiblical practice. For eg. Claiming to be saviours of Men. Now see the response of that believer. He really does not bother. What does that mean? He is fine with a new set of Saviours apart from Jesus Christ. Do you really think this person is saved who do not care for the exclusivity of the Lord Jesus? Let me say it for a record. Most of the TPM Believers are NOT SAVED. They are nothing more than Catholics or Hindus following a religious ritual and Jesus is just someone who is dispensable.


      //Water baptism given by ministers which this group claims as fraudster and satanic, holds invalid and had to be re-baptized.

      As far as I am concerned, nobody can be sure of the baptizers internal state of affairs. Therefore the onus is on the one who is baptized and his beliefs. If he believed it right, its between him and God.


      // – Holy spirit received in TPM is fake and some evil spirits is working in every ministers and children of God in this denomination.

      Holy Spirit received anywhere is not a problem. If you received Holy Spirit in the road, it really is not a problem. But check out the lives of those who claim to have received the Holy Spirit. I really doubt the claim. They are worse than many worldly people. So I have to assume that they did not receive any Holy Spirit but just jumping and shouting to be part of the cult.


      //– Life lived by the admonishes and orderliness is questioned.

      Who cares for the admonishing and orderliness if it does not have scriptural backing? You can also find similar things in Catholicism, Islam and many other organizations.


      Everytime you comment, a verse keeps popping out before my eyes. It is James 1:8

    2. Dear Mark,
      Based on the scripture, I can say with confidence, barring a few none of these so called saints of TPM will go to heaven.
      If the ignorance is justified, some of the believers may go to heaven. Then again Paul says your ignorance will not be counted as righteousness

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  10. @ Hannibal
    ////////the way tp maniacs handled you and the other believers is a not acceptable .. but
    most born again congregations advise their members to remove it politely ,not the way the tpm threatens ******************///////

    I am not a building church goer or part of any congregation . First I would like explain what is a congregation Refer Hebrews 10:24,25
    24. And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

    25. Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

    Both 24,25 are part of a single verse. It is to provoke love and good works . Not to showcase your talents or to collect offerings . They don’t come for Worship. True worship is Romans 12:1 . There is no point in simply going to a congregation without obeying Jesus great commission commands.Refer Mathew 23:8 when Jesus himself will direct you . When you find that going to a congregation in a building is good and if you think you are growing spiritually you are in the greatest deception. The believers met together “daily!” Acts 2:46; 5:42; 6:1; Heb. 3:13. There is no Sabbath or Sunday Service as building churches gather today !!!!
    One more question is “ Is Mark 16:17,18 getting fulfilled in today’s congregational churches ? When Jesus is there miracles will happen !! Once MT Thomas prayed for my daughter , she was not healed. If it is a apostolic ministry healings and miracles should happen !! Read ACTS and gospel fully .
    JESUS SPEAKS WITH ME DAILY . HE IS MY MASTER !!!!!!

    ////////ok i thought people convicted by the Holy spirit and not by our appearance , ornaments or the comfort cross .
    Without jesus nothing can be done. But when Lazarus dead and brought to life by Jesus , he asked people to remove the stones. So for HolySpirit to work you must start following Mathew 28:19,20 not simply sit and pray alone. Jesus prayed all night and did ministry in the morning
    ////////////////////you can go for movies along with them so that they wont be offended and easy for you to share your gospel during the intervals //////////////////////.

    Did I anywhere mention that sharing the gospel is sinning with non-believers Hannibal ?
    I follow Mathew 10 where Jesus has given the commandments to share the gospel.
    Please refer 1 Corinthians 9:20-23
    20. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

    21. To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

    22. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

    23. And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
    The aim of Jesus coming to this world is to give salvation and preach gospel . Refer Mathew 4:19 . He wants to share gospel and bring people to salvation. Please read Mark 9:1 . Do you think people of that time are still alive ?
    Mark 9:1
    1. And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
    Refer Luke 11:20 .
    20. But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

    When you understand the reason for Jesus dying in the cross and how much concern he had towards poor people and people who are not saved you will never accept the teachings of men. You will start giving souls to heaven. It is clearly mentioned you will be cast to lake of fire when you stop doing Kingdo’s work.Spirit of fruit will accompany only when you obey Jesus and His commandments.

    //////*just asked because most of your posts showed your obsession on ornaments .
    happy journey ..//////////////////
    I want to work for Jesus and bring many souls and end up persons closer to me in hell. Iam least bothered to make you acknowledge me. If you think iam obsessed on ornaments ok GO AHEAD . I don’t want any praises from anybody. The reason why I shared this experience many people do not obey Jesus words as mentioned in Mathew , Mark , Luke John. (READ John 14:23)

    Many in TPM and other denominational building churches are of the false impression that removing jewels will lead to heaven. It is a greatest lie of satan. I wanted to break this impression , so anybody reading my post will have that false notion removed.

    /////1 Peter 3:3 , Romans 12:2, 1 tim _2:9
    ////// you have the freedom to not only wearing the ornaments ,

    1 tim _2:9
    Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
    1 Peter 3:3 .
    Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear—////////
    Adorn means “to add something decorative to a person or thing” . This is the meaning of adorn .
    Meaning of Wear : the state of being worn : use clothes for everyday wear
    Paul clearly mentions not to decorate . As per my dressing sense I am modestly dressed wearing Jewels not adorning to provoke individuals. Under such context only Paul has mentioned !!!!
    My role model is Jesus Christ for Judas betrayed HIM through kiss. So Jesus was dressed like normal Jew during those period. If He was in white- white or clean shave it would be easy for other to identify HIM .Read Mathew 10:24 for this justification.
    Romans 12:2
    Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
    Conformation has its base in the word conform, which means to follow the rules, or behave in such a way that you fit in, in a social or a spatial way.

    ///Rules followed by worldly people
    1.)Adorn with Jewels
    2.) Party , Drink, movies ,Sex
    Rules followed by Godly People :
    Commandments of Jesus as recorded in Mathew, Mark, Luke John,
    but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
    THE ABOVE WILL HAPPEN AUTOMAATICALLY

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    1. @ Hannibal
      Please refer to my above reply . I cannot repeat. Your questions are already answered. I cannot waste my time in typing again. Jesus bless you and your family.

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