The Pied Piper of TPM and his hermeneutics

// 1 Peter 3:3

3 Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of PUTTING ON OF APPAREL; 4 But let…..////

By Pas MT ‘s logic putting on of apparel also is against God…… Well cherry picking is an art mastered by TPM workers.
Alwyn went a step forward and “practised putting on of apparel part” (as heard from old TPM believers)
Heard Pas MT has high regards for Alwyn.
Pray that God opens the eyes of TPM believers soon !!!

In such an important meeting with the generation of tomorrow, instead of guiding them on what sin is, sexual sins, ways to overcome it, the narrow way, glorifying Christ through their daily lives etc , these wolves in sheep clothing would capitalize on optics of holiness such as consecration, jewels, white clothes, false tongues, etc.
As mentioned in Gal 5:4, it is very clear that Christ is become of no effect to these wolves, as they are still being justified by law and have fallen from grace. as they were never led by the Spirit (verse 18) . Every message we hear from TPM it becomes very clear. His second in command T/Durai is very much on the same bandwidth and working his best to turn as much as possible to hell.
Of all the ways one could go to hell as told by Jesus in the four Gospels, no one has ever been to hell due to Jewels.
But many in hell today would be the ones who outwardly removed jewels, wore whites but did not know Christ.

I would like share my personal experience about removal of Jewels. I was born and brought in a hindu family . So I had no chance to remove my jewelry. But somehow since this TPM was near to my house we went there. Initially for one year there was no problem. But as times passed by servants of God used to talk with my husband in my absence and they moved through him to remove my jewelry. Once pastor Johnson ( He was the centre pastor of Coimbatore after transfer from IBR. )during a sermon told that if husband is saved then wife should remove jewels ,only then they can inherit Zion. After some weeks listening to this sermon I had a dream also regarding second coming and I was not able to go because of Jewels. (Actually that dream was against the second coming mentioned in scripture. And it took me time to analyse how the devil is also able to give dreams).
So I thought it was from God and removed it. But it was during those period without jewels I felt a pride by seeing people with jewels. I removed it for my daughter also. Then I realised something was hindering my spiritual life . Then my own sister who lead me spritually started to guide with verses from the Bible. I was convinced and again wore my jewelry. Though I did not move from TPM immediately this incident started creating doubts about their doctrine and it took me three years to leave TPM. Now iam completely free and I understand that Jesus looks at our heart and not our outward appearance. After coming out of this cult there was a drastic change in my spiritual experience. Iam able to pray well and share the love of Jesus . There were many more incidents where these SOG tried to separate me and my
spouse . They are family spilters not servants of GOD. Jesus speaks to all HIS children and if something is hindering our
spiritual life there will be a red signal from
the holy spirit. We need not adhere to man made rules to get closer to Jesus. Thank you Jesus for delivering from this cult.

There are two who reads this topic.

1) One who rejects jewelry
2) and the other who accepts jewelry

Christianity prefers that we not concentrate on our outer appearance but instead, build our inner beauty.

[Consider this situation, from a wordly view.

If I was stranded in a unoccupied island, it would not matter how I dress up, there is no one to see me.
It would even not matter if I wore clothes. In time, I shall get used to living as I want.

But when I find my way back home, and start living as I did on the island, being careless, then it not only causes issue to me, but as well as others.]

As a Christian, as long as we are ashamed of our nakedness, if not clothes, we will get some leaves in there.

Christianity is giving the other person more importance than our ownselves. Our lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the King of Kings, the Lord of Lords , gave us more importance than we ever deserve, by giving Himself for us. The best definition for love that I understood through Jesus Christ is, ‘doing the best thing for someone’.

(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9K80pozOfrU)

This Jesus came to earth for us who are counted as dust of the earth. He put us in priority when no one did or will do like He did. And by laying down His life for us, we have nothing else to do, than to live back for Him. Whatever we do, our eyes need to be on ‘eternity’. If we can comprehend this, we would not be worried about things of this world. He gave to us Christians, the dignity we don’t deserve, and by doing so, we respect him back as much as possible. One of the reasons I choose to follow Him, is because He chose me first. Everthing we do, has a return. If not in this world, we shall receive it after we are long gone.

Coming back to our topic, what is the main reason for us wearing jewelry, fine apparel, etc?

It is because of culture?
Is it because of tradition?
Is it because it gives us confidence?
Is it because it provides us safety?
Is it because ‘I dont care what people say’?
Is it because we want to look better?
Is it because we want add value to our ownself?
Is it because we want to continue what we were doing before we came into this faith?

Choose the best answer out of the above, and it will still be an ‘excuse’ and not a valid reason when we are gathered.

The only reason if at all one chooses not to wear jewelry or anything expensive from a Christian point of view, is to maintain an orderly code of conduct when gathered among believers, putting others in priority than our ownself. Most of the epistles is instructions on how a Christian is to be and how he becomes an example to others by being a Christian. That is the reason Paul says in

“1 Cor 14:5

5 I wish you all spoke with tongues, but even more that you prophesied; for he who prophesies is greater than he who speaks with tongues, unless indeed he interprets, that the church may receive edification. ”

The gift of speaking in tongues is a gift of speaking in an unknown language without having had any formal training. It is not the ‘praying in spirit’ as done by the pentecostal movement. All that gives is an emotional stress relief like going to a ‘satsang’ will. Today, thankfully each one of us can speak two languages at the best. There are places where the gift of unknown tongue is still occuring, where one can speak a tongue with no prior knowledge about it. So when people started to misuse the Gift of tongues, Paul had to instruct them,

1 Cor 14:26-28

“26 How is it then, brethren? Whenever you come together, each of you has a psalm, has a teaching, has a tongue, has a revelation, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, let there be two or at the most three, each in turn, and let one interpret. 28 But if there is no interpreter, let him keep silent in church, and let him speak to himself and to God.”

Similarly, Paul instructs in “1 Timothy 2:8

8 I desire therefore that the men pray everywhere, lifting up holy hands, without wrath and doubting; 9 in like manner also, that the women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with propriety and moderation, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or costly clothing, 10 but, which is proper for women professing godliness, with good works.”

lining with “1 Peter 3:3-4

3 Do not let your adornment be merely outward—arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel— 4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God. ”

As the strength of Christians increased day by day, the Apostles were inspired by God to instruct the churches about the code of conduct. These Christians had come from different backgrounds, different traditions and customs and so forth, so Paul, Peter, and the rest of the apostles, instructs that when we gather, let us do everything for the edification of the church.

If you read the before verses of 1 Peter 3:1-2, it speaks why Peter instructs this code of conduct.

“Wives, likewise, be submissive to your own husbands, that even if some do not obey the word, they, without a word, may be won by the conduct of their wives, 2 when they observe your chaste conduct accompanied by fear.”

When we maintain our modesty because we value the other person more, there is a high chance that they shall obey the word of God, because we are living an examplary life. Even though this is mainly written in context with the submission of Wives to Husbands, it also goes the other way around in a different manner that husbands maintain a good code of conduct, as we husbands have submitted ourselves to God.

A church is a gathering of Wives, husbands and children.

How are we maintaining our code of conduct when we gather?
Do we value other brothers and sisters selflessly more than ourselves?
Are we doing it all for the glory of God?
Do we present ourselves to be branches of the True Vine?

Or

Are we doing it for denominational practices?
Are we doing it so we can despise others who are not wearing jewelry?
Do we think that those who wear jewelry are inferior to us?
Are we filled with spiritual pride?

What is the main reason for our gathering? is it for all brothers and sisters to be edified, or is it to edify our own self?

If we can understand this, we will not be worried about jewelry, or other things which is significant compared to jewelry, like the expensive watch we wear, the phone we carry, the shoes we want to wear, the fine apparel we want to adorn ourselves with, the white n white show off we want to do?

There are believers who would have had nothing to eat that morning, and yet come to church to be among like-minded believers, but when they come to church, they see a difference between poor and rich, there is no unity, so Paul asks us today also

1 Cor 11:21-22

“21 For in eating, each one takes his own supper ahead of others; and one is hungry and another is drunk. 22 What! Do you not have houses to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God and shame those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you.”

All of these code of conduct points to Mark 12:31 of the second greatest commandmant.

“31 And the second, like it, is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Conclusively, the question then becomes ‘Are we giving our brothers and sisters more piority than ourselves?’

“1 Cor 14:40

Let all things be done decently and in order.”

When we step into eternity with Jesus, we can see the magnificient kingdom of gold, pearls and exquisite metals that are beyond the periodic table. This is not a ‘license to wear’ as some might think, but a maginificient place awaits for us made of gold and pearls that cannot be destroyed. Let us not lose that which is forever, for something temporary as our life on this earth is.

‘We are Christians, wherever we are.’ This is my belief. One of my best friend is a catholic, and he feels ashamed even to speak a bad word in front of me, let alone a bad action. The reason is he himself says, that he can see me becoming better and better in my behavior, even though he knows that I once was a wicked man who suppressed the truth in unrighteousness. The outer appearance should be a reflection of the inner transformation of God’s love in our lives. Without the Love of Christ, all would be but vain.

Do not hold anyone guilty for your own preferences.

Exhorting you to become more fervent in Christ.

പ്രവൃത്തികൾ 26:28,29

28 അഗ്രി:,പ്പാ പൌലൊസിനോടു: ഞാൻ ക്രിസ്ത്യാനിയായിത്തിരുവാൻ നീ എന്നെ അല്പംകൊണ്ടു സമ്മതിപ്പിക്കുന്നു എന്നു പറഞ്ഞു. – അതിന്നു പൌലൊസ്;
29 നീ മാത്രമല്ല, ഇന്നു എന്റെ പ്രസംഗം കേൾക്കുന്നവർ എല്ലാവരും അല്പംകൊണ്ടാകട്ടെ അധികം കൊണ്ടാകട്ടെ ഈ ചങ്ങല ഒഴികെ എന്നെപ്പോലെ ആകേണം എന്നു ഞാൻ ദൈവത്തോടു അപേക്ഷിക്കുന്നു എന്നു പറഞ്ഞു.

Looks like MT and AC and Alwyn are all cut from the same cloth. Heretics.

Recently I had the opportunity to meet someone who lived during the Alwyn era and he told me an interesting thing about this TPM stalwart. During Alwyn’s hey days, he used to sit on the podium with his back turned to the audience unlike the TPM elite, who these days who face the congregation. This man must have been a lunatic, just wondering if MT and his merry men are any better as they are unabashedly praising this pervert.

I feel so sorry for all the folks who are still trapped in this cult. Lord have mercy.

What if wearing white garments to appear holy is your “jewelry “?

I remember my one and only time to youth camp in 2001 I believe. I had set off to youth camp in the idea that I will get anointed in the holy spirit (unknown tongues as claimed by tpm). I had heard testimonies of youths coming back from youth camp, and so being influenced by it, I wanted to experience a similar thing myself. There are so many things happening at this camp, that is so disgusting to discuss (unsure how it is these days), youths who were perverse in their behavior but as soon as the anointing time, they would roll and end in different places, i got severely hit by a known youth as I had closed my eyes and was praying for the anointing. Some of the pastors would urge speak, speak.

Then I thought lets move a bit closer to where the pastors, probably God will anoint me then, this time in the front, I got hit by another youth. I wondered then and there ‘why would God do it this way’, ‘maybe it is the Holy Spirit hitting me to pray more’. I was a kid then, and as a kid, you would even believe santa claus is real. It is then I decided, I am done. I had read bible several times by that age, not one single person who got anointed in the OT, or in the NT behaved like how I witnessed in the youth camp. I returned as I had gone. A year later, i left tpm. I was 15 years old. And through the years, I was in a confused state (attending tpm meeting once in a year for the next 5 years) I did not come across anyone who felt about tpm that way. According to tpm ‘leaving them’ is backsliding. I thought I had backslided. And then I claimed to be atheistic, while I was agnostic. It was until a decade later, spending time on the Word of God, helped me to understand that I was not yet saved. In 2016, I believed in Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior and accepted the Gift of Salvation that was extended to me. 2 years later, I obeyed God through Baptism. It is a wonderful journey.

Tpm concentrates on the outer disciplination followed by inner transformation. But this method gives place to spiritual pride of our own works. ‘I wear white n white, i don’t wear jewels, i dont have medicine’, they forget the Grace of God that brought us into salvation and continue in their spiritual pride as ‘state of holiness’ for the rest of their lifetime. I understand it is hard for people to leave tpm, because it is their only known world. Any True Christian whose desire is to be with Jesus will not be under the legalisitic, exclusive doctrines of tpm.

Even though my family continues to be in tpm. I can decide to just pray, but I take any opportunity that I can get to explain the consequences, ramifications by staying in tpm. I made my choice for myself and for my future generations(if our Lord’s coming is delayed), that they not be under these kind of man-made denominations. When will you make a choice to be not a slave under these doctrines? You should know that despite being warned, you are spiraling towards not only your own spiritual demise, but the spiritual demise of the generations that may follow.

We would not abort an unborn child, but we willfully send our children to spiritual death. Sad!

The vehement scathing attack on TPM ministers and their followers makes me to wonder that this redeemed group will or have been convinced to state that the;

– People convicted and coming to TPM is deception.
– Water baptism given by ministers which this group claims as fraudster and satanic, holds invalid and had to be re-baptized.
– Holy spirit received in TPM is fake and some evil spirits is working in every ministers and children of God in this denomination.
– Life lived by the admonishes and orderliness is questioned.

Seeing these and questioned myself, I feel this is going no where, but creating ruckus. But one thing is sure, the children of God are able to read between the scriptures to understand and fine tune their relationship with God.

@ Hannibal
////////the way tp maniacs handled you and the other believers is a not acceptable .. but
most born again congregations advise their members to remove it politely ,not the way the tpm threatens ******************///////

I am not a building church goer or part of any congregation . First I would like explain what is a congregation Refer Hebrews 10:24,25
24. And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

25. Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

Both 24,25 are part of a single verse. It is to provoke love and good works . Not to showcase your talents or to collect offerings . They don’t come for Worship. True worship is Romans 12:1 . There is no point in simply going to a congregation without obeying Jesus great commission commands.Refer Mathew 23:8 when Jesus himself will direct you . When you find that going to a congregation in a building is good and if you think you are growing spiritually you are in the greatest deception. The believers met together “daily!” Acts 2:46; 5:42; 6:1; Heb. 3:13. There is no Sabbath or Sunday Service as building churches gather today !!!!
One more question is “ Is Mark 16:17,18 getting fulfilled in today’s congregational churches ? When Jesus is there miracles will happen !! Once MT Thomas prayed for my daughter , she was not healed. If it is a apostolic ministry healings and miracles should happen !! Read ACTS and gospel fully .
JESUS SPEAKS WITH ME DAILY . HE IS MY MASTER !!!!!!

////////ok i thought people convicted by the Holy spirit and not by our appearance , ornaments or the comfort cross .
Without jesus nothing can be done. But when Lazarus dead and brought to life by Jesus , he asked people to remove the stones. So for HolySpirit to work you must start following Mathew 28:19,20 not simply sit and pray alone. Jesus prayed all night and did ministry in the morning
////////////////////you can go for movies along with them so that they wont be offended and easy for you to share your gospel during the intervals //////////////////////.

Did I anywhere mention that sharing the gospel is sinning with non-believers Hannibal ?
I follow Mathew 10 where Jesus has given the commandments to share the gospel.
Please refer 1 Corinthians 9:20-23
20. And unto the Jews I became as a Jew, that I might gain the Jews; to them that are under the law, as under the law, that I might gain them that are under the law;

21. To them that are without law, as without law, (being not without law to God, but under the law to Christ,) that I might gain them that are without law.

22. To the weak became I as weak, that I might gain the weak: I am made all things to all men, that I might by all means save some.

23. And this I do for the gospel’s sake, that I might be partaker thereof with you.
The aim of Jesus coming to this world is to give salvation and preach gospel . Refer Mathew 4:19 . He wants to share gospel and bring people to salvation. Please read Mark 9:1 . Do you think people of that time are still alive ?
Mark 9:1
1. And he said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That there be some of them that stand here, which shall not taste of death, till they have seen the kingdom of God come with power.
Refer Luke 11:20 .
20. But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

When you understand the reason for Jesus dying in the cross and how much concern he had towards poor people and people who are not saved you will never accept the teachings of men. You will start giving souls to heaven. It is clearly mentioned you will be cast to lake of fire when you stop doing Kingdo’s work.Spirit of fruit will accompany only when you obey Jesus and His commandments.

//////*just asked because most of your posts showed your obsession on ornaments .
happy journey ..//////////////////
I want to work for Jesus and bring many souls and end up persons closer to me in hell. Iam least bothered to make you acknowledge me. If you think iam obsessed on ornaments ok GO AHEAD . I don’t want any praises from anybody. The reason why I shared this experience many people do not obey Jesus words as mentioned in Mathew , Mark , Luke John. (READ John 14:23)

Many in TPM and other denominational building churches are of the false impression that removing jewels will lead to heaven. It is a greatest lie of satan. I wanted to break this impression , so anybody reading my post will have that false notion removed.

/////1 Peter 3:3 , Romans 12:2, 1 tim _2:9
////// you have the freedom to not only wearing the ornaments ,

1 tim _2:9
Likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,
1 Peter 3:3 .
Do not let your adorning be external—the braiding of hair and the putting on of gold jewelry, or the clothing you wear—////////
Adorn means “to add something decorative to a person or thing” . This is the meaning of adorn .
Meaning of Wear : the state of being worn : use clothes for everyday wear
Paul clearly mentions not to decorate . As per my dressing sense I am modestly dressed wearing Jewels not adorning to provoke individuals. Under such context only Paul has mentioned !!!!
My role model is Jesus Christ for Judas betrayed HIM through kiss. So Jesus was dressed like normal Jew during those period. If He was in white- white or clean shave it would be easy for other to identify HIM .Read Mathew 10:24 for this justification.
Romans 12:2
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
Conformation has its base in the word conform, which means to follow the rules, or behave in such a way that you fit in, in a social or a spatial way.

///Rules followed by worldly people
1.)Adorn with Jewels
2.) Party , Drink, movies ,Sex
Rules followed by Godly People :
Commandments of Jesus as recorded in Mathew, Mark, Luke John,
but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
THE ABOVE WILL HAPPEN AUTOMAATICALLY

@Sister Surya

why YOU want to wear a jewelry in the first place . . …?

my question was plain and simple .