Testimony of Santosh

Hello Friends. I’m from Gujarat and have been a tpm believer since i was a child. I had great zeal for the Lord since beginning and a greater zeal (must I say) for the church and the servants of God! However, I was sure that i won’t get into full-time ministry. 🙂

I used to look forward for Saturdays, more so i could spend time with my other friends who would all come to stay at the faith home. There used to be many questions in my mind even then, but i dared not ask anyone because it was equated to heresy or speaking against the Lord’s anointed! I used to fight tooth & nail with those who would dare say anything against tpm or the “saints”.

I staunchly believed in the 4-tier system (Zion, New Jerusalem, new heaven & new earth) taught by tpm and used to consider all other denominations as name-sake churches (or naam-dhaari kalisiya). I prayed hard to bring my other christian friends into tpm. I used to do “rpd” very sincerely to arm-twist God into fulfilling my wishes. Still, I used to question within myself the untimely deaths of believers/workers who were waiting for divine-healing, avoiding medicines but doing home treatments, concept of tarrying meetings, no healings during healing services, no deliverance from bondages, same pattern of “unknown tongues” been spoken throughout all tpm faith homes (ipc has a set pattern, ag has another, so on and so forth)!

I happened to visit the UK for a brief period of time and was surprised at the way meetings used to happen there, their lifestyle, their dresses, etc! Though it pleased me that they were more actively doing the ministry of evangelism to cater to the English audience, it raised more questions on the so-called consecrated ministry, which was supposed to be the same everywhere. But then, tpm believes in – “jaisa des, waisa bhes” that is to say – “when in Rome, do as the Romans”. Good.

I was a translator at church for many years, a Sunday school teacher and later promoted as a youth class teacher. That was the death blow to my being a tpm-believer. The kind of questions the youths brought to me made me sit up and investigate the claims of tpm. Especially on the issue of receiving the Holy Spirit by speaking in tongues as the outward sign, not allowing communion to other church believers, loopholes in glorious doctrines, suppressing the talents within us so that we don’t become haughty, dealing with friends of other faith, 144000, etc. Moreover, just a couple of years before that (in 2012), I was introduced to Ravi Zacharias’ messages and RZIM. This made me realize what real Christianity is and what it means to “preach the Gospel” and live the Gospel.

Based on all these, I prepared a set of questions, which has been put on this website (link below) as well and shared it with the then in-charge worker of the faith home. He didn’t have any answers and asked me to mail a copy to the headquarters and share one with him!
(http://fromtpm.com/blog/2016/12/14/question-from-a-tpm-believer-to-the-tpm-chief-pastor/)
Revelation 14:4 is their favorite verse about the 144000 –
“It is these who have not defiled themselves with women, for they are virgins. It is these who follow the Lamb wherever he goes. These have been redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb (ESV).”
But, when you enquire about verse 5, which is a continuation of the qualities of the 144000, they get dumb-founded because it says – “and in their mouth no lie (or no guile) was found, for they are blameless.” Many are experts in mouthing the best of words when they are angry, especially in their mother tongue.

In spite of all this, we continued attending the service every Sunday. I would be sleeping most of the times at the back. 2013 to 2016. Both my and my wife were waiting on the Lord to give us a clear confirmation. Leaving tpm was a challenge as it would affect our parents very badly, they being very active members in the church. Moreover, it would other church members as well. Also, we had to find a new church. It was difficult.
“Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues” Revelation 18:4 (ESV)

We still persisted. That is when, I stumbled upon this blog in October 2016. It was like a final sign from heaven. We had to leave all emotions aside and make a decision. And finally, by the grace of God, since the year 2017 started, me and my wife & kids have stopped going to tpm. Our parents were mighty upset with us for almost 3 months. It was as if we have backslidden and forsaken God! But then things are better now (though they have that grief at the back of their minds). This just makes me realize this – if, as a Christian I’m leaving my denomination for another one, if this is the kind of backlash that i have to face, then imagine how difficult it becomes emotionally for someone from other faith to leave all their childhood beliefs, their families and accept Christianity. It’s not easy my friends. But, if truth matters to you, then all other things can’t stop you. (listen to Nabeel Qureshi’s post-death testimony). And as the Lord says, when you know the truth, it will set you free.

The problem now some people might point out is – no church is perfect. Yes. Agreed. As long as we are on this earth, we remain imperfect. And this same bunch of imperfect people make up the church. So it cannot be perfect yet. No one can make a perfect church. No, not even tpm, as they claim. But we are made perfect only by believing in the Lord and His finished work on the cross.

Coming back to the point – no church is perfect. But the leaders are approachable where it is a Spirit-led fellowship. They are ready to learn and make changes. In tpm? It will be deemed as speaking against the anointed. It is the hierarchical structure that tpm has (so do all other cults) that is the biggest hindrance for a positive change in it. That is why, it is important to leave this organization. You cannot pray and change it is what I believe. Though I would love to see a radical change in it. If it could have been possible, there wouldn’t have been RC, JW, LDS, Islam, etc. They all would have changed a long time back. Don’t waste your time trying to change this organization. As the above stated organizations are also thriving and growing in number, so will tpm continue to grow unless the light of the Lord shines upon individuals to set them free.

Today also, whenever I initiate a discussion with any tpm member, they end up saying, “I go to worship the Lord and come back. I am not bothered with what others or the workers are doing there.” This is the standard response. There are many other issues which i haven’t mentioned here as it would just make this post longer. I don’t know if anyone gets convinced with my testimony either. I know for one, our walk with the Lord is a better one now. We are free in the Lord and we enjoying our fellowship with His children more actively. It’s like a New Life for us. 😉

I’d end with this – I know its not easy to question the beliefs that you have had since childhood especially when it affects your immediate near & dear ones. Also, leaving tpm is a challenge of the highest kind. Believe me, nothing is greater than the Word of God. If God speaks to you in a still small voice or with the loudest of megaphones, please give heed to it and “come out of her”!

Would be looking forward for comments (both pro & anti).

God bless you all.

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28 Comments on “Testimony of Santosh”

  1. Dear bro Santhosh ,
    You are a brave man , We thank God for saving you from this cult.. We know how difficult to manage our family and cultural constraints ,anyways God is bigger than tpm ..
    let your friends too open their eyes and lets hope we get more testimonies like yours ..
    you give [me/us] hope that we are not alone ..!

    i m curious with so many questions , like hav u found a fellowship ..? etc . don.’t know what kinda mode you are in identity protected or open ex-tpmite .

    admin thanks for the new section . good job again ..

    God bless the Resistance ..!!

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    1. There was nothing hidden about my identity before, neither is now. You can co-ordinate with the admin and get in touch with me. I would have not even bothered sharing my mobile number openly, but that could also result in spam calls! 😉 You know what I mean. I’m thinking of coming up with some more of my personal experiences, as time permits.

      Nevertheless, I also want to mention this that tpm has many positive aspects… however, if they fall short in the Word of God, it does no good. That is what people need to realize. It’s not the church concept of the Old Testament that we are following now, it’s the church (the Christian fellowship), irrespective of the place, location, building, denomination, etc. that has been formed in the New Testament. We are the church. Our bodies are the temple of the Living God. Not the faith home! This is what we all need to realize. It’s time to come out of the clergy-laity divide.

      Thanks for your encouragement. God bless you.

  2. Dear Santhosh.
    I sincerely appreciate your courage to come out openly to challenge the erroneous teachings of TPM. Hope that many will open their mouth now.
    Admin. yesterday would have the most proliferous day of this site. Great work, May bless your work abundantly.

  3. God Bless you and your family for taking this brave step. Yes, He is able, more than able to keep you till He comes. Enjoy the freedom in Christ.

  4. its really challenging. good brother! you did speak out things as it is. i am in a state just like you. i have had these in mind long long back and i am struggling still. what i do is, i go else where and satisfy myself in the Lord. i participate in evanglization works carried out by other friends(non tpm) in the Lord. i go for missionary trip too.
    by the way can you tell me with which organisation you are now comfortable with. i find no match to tpm pattern of worship, leave alone their miserable cyclosyled doctrinal aspect, spoken all the time imposing and asserting. coz i had been in tpm for the past several decades the worship style is tasty to me except certain things, like drum beating, speaking in tongues using the mike, strictness of testimony pattern ( name giving before the meeting starts) etc. etc.
    i wpuld love to meet you too.

    1. for me church is only 10% , rest is in my hand and my fellowship with the LORD ,
      when i m full of filth at times even the best sermons didnt help , i had to repent and come back to the Lord .God spoketo me thr the worst kind of preachers even after they failed in their personal lives .
      so any pentecostal church is fine , letyour physical presence in the church ,but eyes and heart look unto the Lord always .

      Good luck brother .

      youtube : cfcindia / tag zac ,poonen

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      1. YES. YOUR RESPONSE IS QUITE ENCOURAGING. BUT STILL IN THE HUMAN PARLANCE AND IN VERY NATURAL TERMS I WOULD ASK YOU IN WHICH ORGANISATION ARE YOU CO-OPERATING THESE DAYS FOR YOUR COMMUNION OF SAINTS OF JESUS CHRIST? ITS NOT FOR ANY CRITICISM OR FOR ANY DEBATE ON THAT MATTER. I WOULD ASSURE YOU THAT. BUT FOR ME TO HAVE AN IDEA AS I AM ALSO IN THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU WERE.

        1. @BR .PAUL

          an independent church bro. i see church as a tool . pls listen these messages
          of a.w .tozer , pink , zac poonen , david wilkinson , raven hill .. more than that is God speaking to you ..?, is he continuing .. did he stopped ..?if so why , these are the most important questions we need to ask . it is sad none of the tpm believers has this awsome experience .. they re living lik a zombie in a zombie land .

          jus ignore the TPM indoctrination for a while , word of God is lik an ocean , the tpm tryin to put it in a china clay jar . you have a calling brother , get out(mentally) and work for GOD not for TPM . .. MARK MY WORDS you ll be used mightily . you can be a member and still work for him in so many ways . dnt worry abt coming out of tpm much now ..GOD will eventually show you the way ,i knw one brother left tpm ministry ,now leads a huge church in chennai and brought even some muslims to faith .

          you ll have a unique calling brother . seek and find . you ll be amazed in a few years .

          All glory to HIM .

    1. i had a brief conversation with him last year , when i felt something wrong in the church . i will send the fb linkto the admin .. pls get it from him .

  5. Hahaha… Someone shared this site saying “Some people are against TPM and speaking non sense.” I can’t stop laughing reading such posts. It seems that the same admin who created this website posting various posts with different names. You guys (fallen ones) are very jealous on the church the way it’s shining day by day.

    DEAR READERS, DO NOT GET CORRUPTED BY READING SUCH POSTS. Instead, hold on to God and pray to reveal the truth. Everyone knows that satan valiantly works to corrupt the readers and make them to get away from this church.

    Jude 1: 10 But these speak evil of those things which they know not: but what they know naturally, as brute beasts, in those things they corrupt themselves.

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    1. Shining? Mr. David, that’s your cognitive dissonance hindering you from seeing the true picture. That is why you feel it’s the admin under different names posting articles and comments. What a sad state you are in!
      Tell me one example in which you think the tpm is shining?

      Bro, I’m in Gujarat. Tell me if you want to meet and discuss. Open invite. At least then admin and Santosh will be 2 separate entities, unless you think that I am the admin! 😀

      Go ahead. Take my challenge and let’s have a face to face discussion. 9890799326

    2. @David,
      “FALLEN ONES ?”

      Dear brother, i remember my friend (tpm diehard) using this word: ‘FALLEN’ on me for not attending TPM Youth Convention 2 years back. It was the first time i heard such word from someone.
      I was just 23 yrs old doing bachelors that time.

      As i’m the only one who got saved in my entire family, who are core Hindus, it is so hard for me to attend these conventions and prayer meetings lying blatantly to them. I prayed that day “Lord help me to know the truth, am i ‘fallen’ for not attending the convention?”. I dint cease asking God to help me in every aspect of my journey in TPM.

      Through mercy and grace of God this journey ended last year after i read an article from this website. I thanked God and prayed regarding the reliability of these articles, its been a year and I can sense the difference in my approach to Bible and prayerlife. God bless this team.
      All my questions have been answered gradually. Just cross examine these articles in the light of scriptures.
      I guess you have not read even a single article completely and came to conclusion. I challenge you to read at least 5-10 articles in the light of scriptures along with the context and then come to conclusion.

      You don’t know the mental trauma i faced that day after recieving the remark: ‘Fallen’ from my friend.
      God is great and merciful, He brought me out from the clutches of perverted and daunting TPM doctrine and gave double the Joy and Happiness sharing the truth and love of God to others.

      John 8:32
      you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.

      God bless you my friend, may be i have less knowledge than you in scriptures, may be i’m new to this Christendom, may be i’m far younger than you in age. But i can say confidently and strongly that i stood for God and for His Truth. Do you?

      Matthew 7:21
      Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

      May God help you to open your eyes and ears.

      @Dear brother Santosh, i have been following your comments and also read your testimony, i’m delighted to know how God delivered you from this cult. All glory to God.
      There are many innocent people who are ensalved in this organisation. May your’s and others testimony in this website hit the masses of TPM and bring great revival.

      @Uncle Admin,
      I thank God for giving you such a wisdom and patience to write these articles and responding to skeptics in comment section. God bless your ministry.
      As i said in someother comment, these articles are like theology classes for me. Keep going with your work.

      Have a good day,
      God bless you all.. 🙂

      1. Dear Bunny,
        Thanks for your kind words. Indeed, the feeling of liberation has to be experienced to know what it feels to be out of the clutches of this organization.
        I have no hard feelings towards the workers but only sympathy. It’s terrible to know that I cannot make them see sense in all of this. I hoped to discuss and even argue with them while I was praying about my exit, which took almost 4 years. But in God’s time, I was able to make one of the best decisions of my life.
        Indeed, God is great and has been leading me and my family in a very amazing way. All praise to him.
        And to you dear brother, don’t heed to unwanted voices, stay firm in faith and connected to the Word of God always. They’re the only true foundation.
        God bless you.

        1. I need to confess something..
          I have some hard and ill feelings for some tpm workers and believers.
          Unnecessarily they scolded me and made me feel guilty before God for days and days but I could not say them anything. They poisoned my head against my father and there are many other things.
          Now am answering them back but at that time I couldn’t bcz I feared them a lot.
          Now I have become rude.
          I know I have to forgive them. I need God’s grace.
          I must love them and fight against TPM SPIRIT, after all they(workers and believers) don’t know what they are doing.

  6. David with all due respect,admin is right.Check his new post and the comments regarding demonetization.I think at least one person was made to participate into illegally changing old notes to new during demonetization in every FH.That is more than enough evidence to be convinced how evil this organization is.How hypocritical they are.If people participated in doing this money changing and still believe they are holy are stupid.Or everyone is deliberately a part of this.Btw reminds me of Jesus whipping out the money changers John2:15.And mind you everyone who was a part of it or who knew about it and did nothing to confront these fake apostles may be whipped one day.

    1. @ OB

      I was wrong bcz I participated in changing their money.
      There are many other things that I did thinking I was pleasing God in pleasing them. I have really sinned a lot.

      1. Sister,
        Don’t worry. when you have realised that you have sinned itself is the redemption from sin. Jesus looks into the heart, not the white costumes outside and dark costumes inside. May God bless you.

  7. While I went to attend youth meeting as a volunteer from Gulf countries, pastor gave us many of us teachers so much amount of money to handover to cheif. It was illegal since you can’t carry large amount so they split the amount and gave. Doing all sort of things aganist law of countries.

  8. Don’t bother about church and leaders. They are answerable of their actions to God and you are for yours. You left the church and that’s the end of the matter. Instead of wasting your time and money on this website on one particular denomination focus on non-believers.

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    1. Yeah..Its tough to digest a testimony against the favorite golden calf. Aren’t you a non-believer too who is still unsaved and expects to be saved by TPM Wolves?

    2. @Raj
      So Brother you say TPM followers are following Jesus and His teachings in Bible?
      We do have responsibility of unbelievers. But what about the people who got trapped in wrong doctrine? What about the youngsters who blindly what to get into TPM ministry, like i dreamt of few years back.
      Especially sisters who are doing minial works (washing and ironing clothes of pastors) in so called consecrated ministry.
      Is this how Jesus asked us to do ministry.

      Don’t you have responsibility for them?

      It is TPM who have to concentrate on non-believers rather than boasting themselves of so called consecrated ministry to attract other denominational Christians.

      Anyway thanks for visiting this site, read few articles in the light of scriptures and introspect yourself.

      I remember below verse while reading your comment.

      Matthew 25:43-45

      43 I was a stranger and you did not welcome me, naked and you did not clothe me, sick and in prison and you did not visit me.’
      44 Then they also will answer, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to you?’
      45 Then he will answer them, saying, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to me.’

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    3. Dear Raj
      Had Jesus thought the way you think & advice then He would have remained in Heaven. There was no need for Him to come in a human form & undergo the sufferings. He came down to warn the people against the wrong teachings & practices of the Scribes & Pharisees of that time. In this present time the TPM white-clads are the Scribes & Pharisees. I truly appreciate Santhosh for the courage he has to publish his testimony. We pray that all the sincere souls should come out of this cult & great Babylon.

  9. “Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, lest you take part in her sins, lest you share in her plagues”

    If this is true, what does TPM say about it? His parents would be praying and true God would have spoken to them too. Any further info what God is saying to Santosh or his parents? Has their parents too convicted and came out?

    1. There is a time and a season for all things under the earth that has been appointed by God. My parents are not convinced enough to leave this organisation yet, Diwa.

      It doesn’t matter to me what tpm thinks about that verse. What matters is what the Word says about the matter.

      I’m wondering why you’re so interested in knowing about what has happened to me and my parents. No problem with that though. You can get in touch with me if you’re so interested.

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