Judge Not, that ye be not Judged

Many people today believe that Christians aren’t suppose to judge sinful behavior in the church — especially the sinful behavior of religious leaders and celebrities in the church. This belief is expressed in popular sayings like “Only God can judge!” “Who are you to judge!?” “Jesus said not to judge!”  . If you have been observing some comments in this blog site you would have noted such comments often used against the authors of this site by TPM Fanatics.

False Belief of Judging

Although this belief is very common and believed to come from Scripture, it actually contradicts what the Scriptures teach about judging. Therefore, it is a false belief and a false teaching. Some people might point out that Jesus said Do not judge so that you will not be judged in Matthew 7:1.

The problem with quoting Matthew 7:1 to support the belief that “Christians aren’t suppose to judge” is that the Lord’s instruction on judging did not stop in verse 1. It continued into verse 5. Not only that, but there are many more Scriptures about judging.

How can you get a complete picture of God’s word on judging, if you only know one verse in the Bible? Are you aware that the word “judge” in its various forms appears in Scripture over 700 times? Yet the only verse that people seem to know is Matthew 7:1. This shows that many people have not studied what the Scriptures teach about judging.

Work hard so you can present yourself to God and receive his approval. Be a good worker, one who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly explains the word of truth.2 Timothy 2:15

  • It’s never a good idea to base your beliefs about judging or any other subject, on one verse in the Bible.
  • It’s always best to study related passages (passages that speak to the same subject) to see what the full counsel of Scripture teaches on a given subject.
  • It’s also not a good idea to cherry-pluck one sentence out of Jesus’ mouth and ignore everything else that He said in that very same context.

Let’s read Jesus’ full statement about judging in Matthew 7:1-5 to see what the Lord actually said:

Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged. And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye? Hypocrite! First get rid of the log in your own eye; then you will see well enough to deal with the speck in your friend’s eye.”  Matthew 7:1-5

Notice: Nowhere in this passage did Jesus say or imply that “only God can judge.”  We know that Jesus was not saying that, because God placed judges over the nation of Israel during the Old Covenant.

Notice: Nowhere in this passage did Jesus say or imply that Christians aren’t allowed to judge sinful behavior in the church. We know that Jesus was not saying that, because the apostles judged sinful behavior in the church in their letters. Jesus was not forbidding His disciples from making righteous and accurate judgments. He was forbidding a wrong kind of judging: judging in hypocrisy, which is pointing out the sins of others while being guilty of practicing the same sin or worse.

Notice that Jesus said one person has a log in their eye and the other person has a speck of dust in their eye. A log is MUCH BIGGER than a speck of dust. So the person with the log in their eye has a bigger problem than the person with a speck of dust in their eye. A log also creates more damage than a speck of dust. So the person with the log in their eye is in worse condition than the person with a speck of dust in their eye. As such, they have no right to judge the minor errors of others. Jesus considers this type of judging wrong and hypocritical, and this is what He was speaking against in Matthew 7:1-5.

The Lord said to first get rid of the log in your own eye, and then you will see clear enough to deal with the speck of dust in your friend’s eye. In other words, we are to correct ourselves first before we attempt to correct others. We are not allowed to judge others if we are guilty of practicing the same sin or something worse. This is called “the pot calling the kettle black” (speaking against something that you are guilty of).

Let me cite few examples.

  • Will it be right for someone who owns a Brothel to condemn or correct a Prostitute?
  • Will it be right for someone who owns a Mafia to condemn a Murderer?
  • Will it be right for someone who Inaugurates and promotes Medical College to excommunicate somebody from their church who went to the Hospital/Medical College for treatment?

Check out the Below pictures of TPM Pastors inaugurating a Medical College. The Main Speaker Pastor Chacko, would not even step out from his Thiruvalla Residence to go and meet people who are in dire needs. But He has no issue in coming for a Medical College Inauguration(Re-certification) of a Wealthy TPM Believer, 50 Kms from his Faith Home.

Judge Not, that ye be not Judged

Paul the apostle spoke against judging in hypocrisy in Romans 2:1-4.

“You [Believers] may think you can condemn such people [unbelievers], but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself, for you who judge others do these very same things.” (verse 1)

Judging Isn’t Wrong

Many people have been taught that “it’s wrong to judge” and that it’s “condemning” and “unloving” to say that someone or something is sinful, wrong, evil, false, or ungodly. This is not true. Judging in and of itself is not wrong when it’s done righteously.

We need to strip away this “evil connotation” from the word “judging.” All judging means is “to form an opinion, estimation, or evaluation of after careful consideration; to infer, think, or hold as an opinion; to conclude about or assess; to form a judgment of; decide upon critically”

The full counsel of Scripture teaches that we are to form an opinion on spiritual matters. We are to carefully evaluate all things to determine whether someone or something is good or evil, true or false, authentic or counterfeit, and according to God’s will.

But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil.1 Thessalonians 5:21-22

Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world.1 John 4:1 

In the same chapter where Jesus said “Do not judge others, and you will not be judged,” He instructed us to judge the fruit of religious leaders to discern false prophets (wolves in sheep’s clothing) from authentic men and women of God.

Beware of false prophets who come disguised as harmless sheep but are really vicious wolves. You can identify them by their fruit, that is, by the way they act. Can you pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? A good tree produces good fruit, and a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree can’t produce bad fruit, and a bad tree can’t produce good fruit. So every tree that does not produce good fruit is chopped down and thrown into the fire. Yes, just as you can identify a tree by its fruit, so you can identify people by their actions.”  Matthew 7:15-20

In John 7:24, Jesus said to Look beneath the surface and make a righteous judgment.

Righteous judgment means to judge rightly or correctly — based on the word of God and the Spirit of God. Not based on our feelings, human wisdom, popular trends, human traditions, and man-made rules.

An example of righteous judgment would be if someone asked me if I support “gay marriage,” and I told them no, because God is the authority on marriage, — not the government or the court system — and God defined marriage from the beginning as a strictly heterosexual union. Therefore, there is no such thing as “gay marriage.” Two people of the same-sex can like each other, fornicate, date, live together and pretend that they are married. But they cannot get married in reality, because marriage is a heterosexual union by nature.

My response was a righteous judgment. I evaluated the question and decided (based upon the word of God and the Spirit of God) that I do not support the concept of “gay marriage” because it is false, wrong, and contrary to the heterosexual nature of marriage.

Refusing To Judge Righteously Is Wrong

In 1st Corinthians chapter 5, Paul was shocked and appalled that some Believers in the city of Corinth failed to judge a man in their congregation who was fornicating with his stepmother. Paul said that even though he was not physically present with them, he had already passed judgment on that man. He told them to call a meeting and come together in the name of Jesus to put that man out of their fellowship and give him over to Satan so that he might repent and be saved.

I can hardly believe the report about the sexual immorality going on among you—something that even pagans don’t do. I am told that a man in your church is living in sin with his stepmother.You are so proud of yourselves, but you should be mourning in sorrow and shame. And you should remove this man from your fellowship.Even though I am not with you in person, I am with you in the Spirit. And as though I were there, I have already passed judgment on this man in the name of the Lord Jesus. You must call a meeting of the church. I will be present with you in spirit, and so will the power of our Lord Jesus.Then you must throw this man out and hand him over to Satan so that his sinful nature will be destroyed and he himself will be saved on the day the Lord returns.1 Corinthians 5:1-5

When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. But I wasn’t talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or are greedy, or cheat people, or worship idols. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that. I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Don’t even eat with such people. It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders [unbelievers], but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.1 Corinthians 5:9-13

Did you catch that? It isn’t our responsibility to judge outsiders [people who do not profess Christ], but it is our responsibility to judge those inside of the church who are sinning.

Why?

Because unrepentant sin in the body of Christ misrepresents the Lord and dishonors His name, it leads unbelievers to blaspheme Him, contradicts the Gospel, damages the witness of the Church, spreads like yeast and ruins entire congregations. False shepherds creep into the flock of God undetected and lead souls astray with false teachings, false ‘gospels,’ and lying signs and wonders as they make merchandise of men and cause The Faith to be evil spoken of by unbelievers. Refusing to judge righteously comes with a great cost.

Righteous judgment is a part of accountability. It assists in the sanctification (spiritual growth) of individual Christians, removes evildoers from the Church, and edifies the body of Christ as a whole, thereby bringing glory to God and shining the light of Jesus Christ in the world.

Everybody Judges

Many people claim that they don’t judge, but that’s not true. Everybody judges, because judging is natural. It is something that we are suppose to do, because God gave us a moral conscience so that we would know the difference between right and wrong and be able to make moral judgments. We judge the moral character of friends, relatives, coworkers, and people that we have not met. We judge the behavior of criminals, politicians, religious figures, athletes, and entertainers. Judging is mainly associated with saying that someone or something is bad. But we are also judging when we say that someone or something is good. In both cases, an evaluation is made and an opinion is given.

So, whether we are deeming someone or something good or bad, we are making a judgment. The important thing is that our judgments are based upon the word of God and the Spirit of God.

More Scriptures About Judging

In Leviticus 19:15 the LORD said: “You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly. You shall not go about as a slanderer among your people, and you are not to act against the life of your neighbor; I am the Lord.

Moses appointed judges to help him lead Israel and resolve their disputes: Then I charged your judges at that time, saying, ‘Hear the cases between your fellow countrymen, and judge righteously between a man and his fellow countryman, or the alien who is with him. You shall not show partiality in judgment; you shall hear the small and the great alike. You shall not fear man, for the judgment is God’s. The case that is too hard for you, you shall bring to me, and I will hear it.” (Deuteronomy 1:16-17)

God gave king Solomon great wisdom to administer righteous judgments in Israel: When all Israel heard of the judgment which the king had handed down, they feared the king, for they saw that the wisdom of God was in him to administer judgment.” (1 King 3:28)

One day, the saints will judge the world. . . even angels. Surely we should be able to judge simple matters in this life:

Don’t you realize that someday we believers will judge the world? And since you are going to judge the world, can’t you decide even these little things among yourselves? Don’t you realize that we will judge angels? So you should surely be able to resolve ordinary disputes in this life.” (1 Corinthians 6:2-3)

Then I saw thrones, and the people sitting on them had been given the authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony about Jesus and for proclaiming the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his statue, nor accepted his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They all came to life again, and they reigned with Christ for a thousand years.” (Revelations 20:4)

The mouth of the righteous speaketh wisdom, and his tongue talketh of judgment.” (Psalm 37:30)

Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times” (Psalm 106:3)

Teach me good judgment and knowledge: for I have believed thy commandments.” (Psalm 119:66)

To do justice and judgment is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.” (Proverbs 21:3)

The robbery of the wicked shall destroy them; because they refuse to do judgment.” (Proverbs 21:7)

It is joy to the just to do judgment: but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity.” (Proverbs 21:15)

Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Execute true judgment, and shew mercy and compassion every man to his brother:” (Zechariah 7:9)

Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.” (1 Corinthians 1:10)

Conclusion

Jesus did not forbid us from judging righteously, but from judging in hypocrisy.

There are a few other forms of judging that are forbidden:

1. Judging one another over disputable matters or matters where Scripture is silent (Romans 14).

There are some things that Scripture does not mention or make judgments on. For example, the day(s) that we should fellowship on. Scripture does not command us to fellowship on any particular day(s). God left it up to us to decide when we will fellowship, so we should respect one another’s liberty to assemble whenever we choose. We have no right to judge anyone over which day(s) they choose to fellowship on. Judging someone based on a personal preference is legalistic.

2. Judging someone’s motives (1 Corinthians 4:5).

There may be times when a person reveals their own motives or God exposes a person’s hidden motives. However, we do not always know what a person’s motives are, because that requires a special ability to see into someone’s heart and only God has that ability.

Nothing in all creation is hidden from God. Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we are accountable.”  Hebrews 4:13

But Jesus didn’t trust them, because he knew all about people. No one needed to tell him about human nature, for he knew what was in each person’s heart.John 2:24-25

Even Death and Destruction hold no secrets from the LordHow much more does he know the human heart!Proverbs 15:11

In spite of the fact that only God can discern the motives and intents of the heart, many people attempt to judge motives all of the time. In many cases, their judgments are wrong. This is why we should be careful of judging a person’s motives. We do not always know the motives behind a person’s words and actions.

3. Passing judgments of condemnation and sentencing someone to eternal damnation (Luke 6:37).

We do have authority to judge spiritual matters in the Church, but we do not have authority to condemn anyone by sentencing them to eternal damnation. Only God, who is the Final Judge, has authority to sentence someone to destruction and the second death. Passing a sentence of condemnation on a person’s soul is forbidden. People who are lost should be shown grace and mercy, just as we were shown grace and mercy when we were lost in sin.

Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins. You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God. All of us used to live that way, following the passionate desires and inclinations of our sinful nature. By our very nature we were subject to God’s anger, just like everyone else. But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much, that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead. (It is only by God’s grace that you have been saved!)Ephesians 2:1-5

Before we knew Christ and came to salvation, we were once blind as well. So what right do we have to condemn a sinner to eternal damnation? None.

It is not up to us to tell people where they will end up after they die. We do not have that knowledge. Only God knows the final destination of each and every soul.

There will be no mercy for those who have not shown mercy to others. But if you have been merciful, God will be merciful when he judges you.James 2:13

And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment;Philippians 1:9


N.B: We do not believe in the TPM Version of Divine Healing, We do not believe that people who went for treatment to hospitals are doing anything sinful.

Source : Exit Churchianity

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82 Comments on “Judge Not, that ye be not Judged”

  1. You will find these “consecrated servants” taking all sorts of supplements for diabetes, importing special toothpaste for their toothache, making all sorts of herbal concoctions to treat their own diseases yet would not bat an eyelid condemning believers to hell/forbidding the Lord’s table (TPM’s table).




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    1. Oh yes…They shamelessly ask people to supply them with “Ensure” to maintain their fat bodies. However, they would not even check out how the babies of the poor believers are doing. Even when it is clearly evident that they are malnourished.




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      1. Dear admin
        There is something more nutritious drink than ENSURE. That is SUSTAGEN. Poor believers children hardly drink milk & these frauds want ENSURE & SUSTAGEN mixed in pure milk.




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        1. My husband always says that he has first seen or heard about any health drink/ exotic fruits to maintain health from TPM church




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      2. I think All the saints in picture with dazzling white got huge cover with some good amount. These people will not go to poor believer’s house to pray even he/she is sick but send their assistance to pray. At the same time these centre pastors run to rich believers house whenever they call. All coveteous pastors have sold themsrlves to the rich believers & their money. money




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      3. There should be an option to click “like” on certain comments brother. Im just fed up with this church after 28 years and wanting to find a church ..




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  2. I love the pictures coz for exTPM members like me reading has never been our strength.

    Medical college and Divine healing go hand in hand in this mystery religion while A parent cannot attend his own child’s wedding in a non TPM church. Talk about double standards.

    They just queue up when mammon is involved, don’t they?

    Let us see what anonymous has to say about these pictures.

    On second thoughts I think we should let Koshy back as he was more entertaining than the TPM well wisher.




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    1. He is just a troll. Moreover, I dont think Koshy is his original name. This is because he has been trolling in other names as well. Just a simple example. You had referred him as “Koshychayan”…Do you think he responded as somebody who understood your way of addressing him? I don’t think so. He basically would have got that Name from some source and used it assuming it to cut ice with normal Syrian Christian Malayalees.




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        1. For someone claiming to belong to the “best church in the world”, you’re replies are somehow so childish and petty with absolutely no substance.




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        2. Brother Richard,
          Here is a small correction,
          For someone claiming to belong to the “only church in the world to be raptured”, you’re replies are somehow so childish and petty with absolutely no substance.




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        3. You claim as ‘best church’ and all those word play. You go to all churches in the world and be in the one which you feel cozy and comfy or burning and pricking.




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        4. Dear Koshy
          Fallen Angel! Who? You are talking about the white clad frauds in the pic. Isn’t it? Wow! What a change overnight? Keep it up.




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        5. Do not twist as if you are unaware what or whom I’m saying. No mock here. If your brain is still dull, I said to you your team.




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        6. Fallen men save by Grace. How I wish that you would experience it, it is too good, dear Bro Koshy.




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        7. We are more careful while buying a brinjal or an apple. We turn it over, smell it, press it, shake it , do everything we can to ensure that we don’t get cheated of a few rupees.

          When it comes to our eternal destiny why ain’t we so careful in spite of having the instruction manual inspired by the Holy Judge Hiimself. How can we be so naive to rely on quacks to decide what is right or wrong.

          Yes we were blind once but it is curable, all you need to do is open your God given eyes instead of seeing through someone else’s tinted lenses.

          Why do we continue to be taught about God by the demons?




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        8. So are you calling the TPM ministers demon? No worries, people called even Jesus as demon. You should be one among them. God be praised.




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        9. No I’m calling the spirit behind it as demonic. Please don’t get angry, I appreciate your zeal but sad as it is misplaced.




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        10. I am not getting angry. God has given me his compassion. Yes, even the men did not call Jesus as demonic but the spirit by which he casted devil as demonic. So your earlier statement and this statement remains the same.




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        11. @NO MORE SLAVES TO FEAR (may be to spouse) 🙂

          //We are more careful while buying a brinjal or an apple. We turn it over, smell it, press it, shake it , do everything we can to ensure that we don’t get cheated of a few rupees.//
          So do everyone unless those who has more money, they will not bother to check and buy.

          //When it comes to our eternal destiny why ain’t we so careful in spite of having the instruction manual inspired by the Holy Judge Hiimself. How can we be so naive to rely on quacks to decide what is right or wrong.//
          Check it, and who is forcing you to do this and do that only. Werent you in TPM once and now in sheep’s clothing sitting in gnashing your teeth and looking with fallen spriit’s lens? You have freedom to chose and you have already chose. May be what you have chosen is god/God predestinated place. Be there until the same god/God says you to move further.

          //Yes we were blind once but it is curable, all you need to do is open your God given eyes instead of seeing through someone else’s tinted lenses.//
          So WE (the team over here) were blind sitting in TPM, and now you got cured. Now coming back like a blind in TPM in sheep’s cloth and spying and puking all vengence here in site. May be this is your job which God has predestinated you for. Good work, and keep it up. May god/God bless you abundantly and let your generation ahead do the same spying work on you and on your fathers.




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      1. If he was a troll, then who were you? Genuine spy sitting in TPM church to find faults and publish? What if your known best friend or your very spouse exposes you about the women you slept? So please, do not point. The eyes of the Lord is everywhere watching over you action.




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  3. Well written article
    These arw the verses mostly used by these diehards and frauds to defend them, to avoid questions and some one pointing their mistakes,
    These people don’t follow Bible or saviour Jesus,

    Poor believers still believe them and follow,
    Only search for truth will deliver,
    And open their eyes.
    God bless




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  4. To the author of the article – you have written “The Main Speaker Pastor Chacko, would not even step out from his Thiruvalla Residence to go and meet people who are in dire needs.” If people in dire needs invite him or call him to come and pray for them – what/how does he respond? Would he provide any response or reasons for this decision (to go or not to go and visit people in dire needs)?




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    1. His standard response is that he is physically unwell. However, my question is, if he is physically unwell for the cause of the poor man, how come he is alright for the cause of a Rich man and that too for a function which is 50Km from.his place?
      If the TPM minister feels that the poor man’s need can be excused on the ground of his health, i guess it’s not right to change his position where you can be benefited by the Rich man’s wallet.




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      1. That’s a problem – hard to defend this one – if he says he won’t meet nearby people having dire needs with the reason he is physically unwell but goes on to be a main speaker in another location which is about 50 km away from his location.

        Is he the same one who was in the middle east and later in Bombay?




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        1. Anonymous why don’t you defend the gospel preached by entire TPM organization instead of trying to defend some individuals?




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        2. It’s easy to defend the glorious gospel of Christ. I am not ashamed of it.
          Romans 1:16
          I Timothy 1:11
          II Corinthians 4:4




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        3. Dear Anonymous,
          You know that’s the walk of life for most of them. I’m yet to see a TPM minister who truly lives according to James Chapter 2 and I really mean it.
          Money comes above everything for these frauds. I have personally experienced many times. Since we were a not well-to-do third class citizens, they denied coming and visiting us when we were badly sick. But the same time they went for a barbeque party to a rich believers house that same hour we called them to come and pray for us (all 4 of us at home were sick in bed). Our hearts were crushed when we came to know about this. This is just one instance, similar things has happened a few times.
          So, this is not just him and I know that you’re well aware too – you’re just putting up a show here asking us to contact him and ask for explanation why he doesn’t visit poor believers but has time for the rich? Ridiculous!




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        4. Did they never come to see you during the time all four of you were sick (atleast after that BBQ hour or after that day)?

          Do they visit you at other times?

          When you came to know this did you question any one of them – why they could not visit you before or after the BBQ party (if they could not come at the same hour)?

          You were in PNG at some point of time – how many days did you stay in the same place where Bro. Richard Thomas was posted? What is your take on his ministry?




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        5. He is better of the lot. They visited over a week after we became okay, obviously a planned visit to come and eat food. Their priorities are misplaced. We were quite desperate to even have some food as we couldn’t cook but neither the “saints” nor the believers helped. They all knew how sick we were and said they were all “praying” for us.
          I have been to many denominations but TPM is worse by far when it comes to showing practical love (both ministers and believers)…even Catholics are much better.




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        6. When you say planned visit to come and eat food – does it mean that they plan a visit during breakfast/lunch/dinner hours and expect you to serve a full meal?
          If you don’t serve any snack or food, do they make it a big issue or complain to somebody?




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        7. Dear Brother,
          Your questions are quite inquisitive as if you are new to this organization. Bro Freddy may answer for the question. But I can tell you without a doubt, that the TPM Ministers are here “to be served”. They are very unlike Jesus who came to Serve.
          Just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.Matt 20:28




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        8. What is your point? Instead of beating around the bush, can you please ask directly what you want and also enlighten everyone as to why you are here? your questions reminds me of TPMs sermons, appears sincere and long and winding but very hollow and makes no sense. I might be wrong so please enlighten me.




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        9. Yes brother anonymous, they give a date saying we are coming for lunch or dinner. Usually, the elder sister calls my wife and instructs even what food to cook as per the pastor or brother’s delicacy. They don’t want simple food – the sister requests to keep 4-5 different dishes along with the main course and a nice dessert. This is the practice in the west – we’ve lived in 4 different countries in the west and been in about 11-12 different faith homes and with the transfers we’ve seen quite a lot of TPM ministers – this is the normal trend here. As admin has pointed out – they live a high life and just want to be served!




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        10. I haven’t experienced some of these personally and that’s why I am trying to find out more. I wouldn’t even entertain these kinds of specific meal preparations – on rare occasions may be ok (as an exception). The more we entertain earthly minded people the expectations may get worse. When you have just recovered from sickness you shouldn’t have offered to or feel obligated to do this.

          Regarding the original issue where one particular person has been specially picked while writing the article – it is better to hear their version or clarifications of this issue if they offer to provide any explanation even if you feel the whole system operates like this – why they pick and choose certain people and locations to visit and avoid visiting needy ones or those in dire needs.




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      2. If partiality and favouritism is there, its a problem. If you see it, speak upfront and correct inside of hiding behind bush and puking vengeance. I call some to pray, if they come, good for all and if they do not, I do myself and go ahead.




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  5. 1. The fallen members of TPM, how do you feel after coming out of TPM? If you feel relieved and happy attending any other denomination, that’s your calling by mercy. If staying away from any church, it’s fishy.

    2. All what you are accusing if true, the institutie may apologise to the mass if many are falling due to such sins.

    3. How will you react if your colleagues wants to publish about your spouse sleeping with 100s of opposite sex people or your children indulging in rape, sex, drugs? Will you deal internally and correct or leave it to be as is?

    3. International youth camp is coming next month. Ask your perverted children to attend in mask and raise all your questions in FAQ sessions about sex, murder, favouritism, etc. If you do not young children, you are much experienced to fabricate and buy children and send to spy and to know more.

    4. In case all what you say is true, I repent and will cry to God to forgive and to renew and to restore back the early days.

    5. The east and west ministry I’m little concerned over practise, but be faithful in what us given to you.




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    1. Bro Koshy, I asked anonymous about Seven steps of salvation preached by TPM. Whether he believes in it ? How about you? Lets leave other things aside and focus on gospel – the foundation of our eternal lives. Do you believe in seven steps if salvation preached by TPM ? Yes or no ?




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      1. Now are you rebutting the doctrines? Go ahead and type your revelations.

        I believe in salvation which Bible speaks of. Which 7 steps are YOU referring and trying to compare with TPM and creating unwanted sparks?

        I need not teach you ABC to read this sentences. You are reading it correctly means you have learnt your ABC correctly.
        You are anointed one (I believe so) and yet you doubt the steps of salvation. Anyways, let’s go direct into the steps which you feel IS THE CORRECT ONE and all others are false 🙂

        Seven Steps of Salvation

        1. Repentance
        2. Water baptism
        3. Separation
        4. Holy Spirit
        5. Divine healing
        6. Faith life
        7. Holy life

        We all know this and many other truths but we are like that child having no heart to practice these truths in our life.
        We have to live a life of separation. But we desire to be like the worldly people.

        By not practicing faith life, we are unable to cross the 6th step of salvation. Without crossing the 6th step of salvation, we cannot reach the 7th step it ie., practicing Holy life. When does our heart become evil? When we do sin? True when we do sin our heart becomes evil. Do we know that our heart becomes evil even when we don’t do sin? Our heart becomes evil when we don’t practice faith life! (Hebrews 3:12). Practicing faith life brings in us holiness (Acts 26:18). That is why faith is called most holy faith.

        Like worldly people, we attend all church meetings, have family prayer and personal prayer, read the scripture, enjoy listening to church songs, give testimony in the church, do Sunday school ministry and other ministries. But deep down our heart we know we have missed the mark. We alone are to be blamed for our state.

        Because our life is like this, without our realization we are hindering the spiritual growth of our children as well. We are like a tree and our children are like the fruits in the tree. Just as the fruit receives the sap from the tree, what is in us enters into our children as well.

        We are in the same state of the Israelites. God chose the children of Israel as His own people and revealed His ways. But the children of Israel did not have a heart to walk in the ways revealed by God. He sent prophets one after another, but they killed them. Ultimately what did God do? To put them to shame, God gave this great salvation to us (gentiles) whom they lowly esteem. Are we not doing just what the Israelites did? Just as the Israelites did not have a heart to walk in the ways of God revealed through Moses, we also do not have a heart to walk on the ways revealed by our consecrated servants of God. What is God doing to us? Just as He put the Israelites to shame, He is putting us the TPM believers to shame by calling hindus and muslims to this glorious ministry. These are youths who have not studied Sunday school like our children. They were in this way for just a few years of less than 5 years. Such God is making them to sit over us as servants of God.

        99% of the people coming to the ministry are children from outside our church. A young man who went to Sabarimala for 7 years, God appeared to him in the very Sabarimala hill. That youth is now a servant of God. An angel in the form of a human appeared to a hindu youth sister in Nepal and gave the address of our faith home there. That girl came to know about our faith home from that angel and now she is a servant of God.

        Presently one of the top 3 pastors was a Brahmin before he was saved. Like this there are many servants of God in our faith home who joined the glorious ministry without even studying Sunday school. God has made them to sit over us who have been in this way for many years than them. If they are over us on earth it is okay. They would be siting over us all eternity!

        We believers who have missed the chance to enter the glorious ministry, should desire that at least our children should enter the ministry. Our thoughts should be so that my children don’t miss the chance to enter the glorious ministry like me, let me live a faith life and victorious life. We not only do not think like that. Rather, we live a careless life being in the captivity of the world and the flesh. This is the cause of our blindness.

        We are like that child having no heart to do the will of our father. Like that child we don’t realize how much our father’s heart is grieved. We don’t realize how much our father was waiting patiently for us to grow and bear fruit. What a waste of money and time we have caused to our father.

        With these thoughts in our mind, let us now read the following verses:

        In Old Testament
        Isaiah 5:1-6, 29:13-15, 30:1-3, 30:8-17, 31:6, 32:9-14, 42:18-20, 43:27-28, 48:4,8, 48:18, 50:1, 63:8-10, 65:1-3, 65:11-15, 66:3-4
        Jeremiah 2:5,7,8, 2:11-13, 2:19,21,27-29, 2:32, 4:22, 5:20, 21-24, 6:10,13,16,17,21,30, 7:13,16,23-28, 8:5-8, 11:7-10, 13:1-11,23, 16:11,12, 17:19,20,23, 35:12-19, 44:7-11
        Hosea 4:6-10,16, 6:4, 7:1,2,8-16, 8:1-3,14, 9:1-17, 10:1-2, 11:1-3,7-8, 12:1-2,7-10

        In New Testament
        Matthew 3:8-10, 8:11-12, 21:31-41,43, 22:1-10, 23:37
        Luke 6:22-26, 13:28,29, 14:16-24, 20:9-16
        Acts 28:25-28
        Romans 10:19-21

        Servants of God are responsible for this sad state. They failed to realize the damage it would cause the church of God when they decided to change the practice laid by the forefathers, of not owning faith homes. Because of that one wrong step, servants of God cannot speak the truth boldly and encourage the children of God to live like Abraham in tent (rented house) and become rich in faith, when they themselves live in owned houses they are unable to teach by example.

        Secondly, devil deceived them through God’s greatest weapon ie., love. If we don’t handle the cane, we hate the child. If we don’t correct our child, then that child is not a proper child. He is a bastard (Hebrews 12:5-8). By not being strict on the erring believers, servants of God fail to perform their duty like Eli and Samuel. They are converting the children of God, which God has purchased with His own blood, into the children of the devil. By not correcting, they are making children of God into bastards!

        The world like the weeds are growing in God’s garden which is the church. The gardeners who are the servants of God are unable to remove the weeds from the garden. Soon the weeds are going to cover the entire garden and make the garden useless.

        The fence of the garden which is the church has broken down. The gardeners who are the servants of God are unable to repair the fence. Through the broken fence all kinds of animals (world) are freely entering inside the garden and destroying the garden.

        When majority in the church live like this, can that church be called the bridal church? Can such a church be able to form the bride of Christ? Unless servants of God consult God and take drastic reformative steps, God is going to reject this church and raise another church to form His bride. With God all things are possible. He is able to form His Bride from stones (Matthew 3:9).




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        1. Bro Koshy, does this mean that the TPMs chief pastors have reached the 7th level?

          What happens to anyone who does not progress from level 1?




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        2. I do not know. All I know is everyone is aiming for full salvation.
          If your child is in LKG for 10 years, you will try either to trash him or put him in some school and bring him up to face the world. So is everyone, if you are not progressing in spiritual life, change the strategy and get them in to attain full salvation in accordance with God’s leading.




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        3. Bro Koshy, I love you more after reading this because it show how sincere you are.

          Can you please listen to me only once – when you have sometime please read the entire book of Romans cover to cover in one sitting. Pray to the Holy Spirit first. Read each verse till you understand it. Use any language you want. You will come out changed Brother.




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        4. What’s your intent? You asked me TPM doctrines which I put it there. I asked your 7 steps, and you are refusing to disclose. Not sure why. Now you are asking me to get my own steps. LOL.

          Repent and do the will of God and that will lead you to heaven for sure my friend.




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        5. Bro Koshy
          Where in the bible is it written there are seven steps of salvation?
          Somebody will come and say God has revealed there are 100 steps to salvation ! If you have any scripture mentioning seven steps please help me. Read Acts 15. Some Pharisees came to Antioch and said salvation by faith in Jesus in not enough. They added the step of circumcision.
          Do not misunderstand me. I do not adhere to gospel that says you can sin after your conversion. I believe fruits of holiness are ramifications of saved converted heart. You are saying that fruits of holiness are cause of salvation.

          I believe in just one step of belief in Jesus name as savior from wrath of God by forensic righteousness. (Rom 5:19, Rom 10:3)




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    2. Bro Koshy,

      Another point for you chew on about the east west divide.

      The new recruits to the ministry from the west undergo 6 months of training only and they get to eat in a different mess.

      Talk about class system based on the colour of your visa. This is the reason one recruit delayed joining the ministry so that their visa status could change and avoid being forced to undergo 24 months RI before being released.

      Just hang out here and you will get more to chew on about your dear cult. Now please don’t spew hellfire on me but go and investigate and know the truth.




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      1. You getting voked up shows who is throwing hell fire 🙂

        I am not here to chew your words. Bible is enough for me to chew.

        The east/west differentiation I am not much keen. If you are, worship here. If you are in west, worship there. I have worshipped both and both have unique experience, after all its God’s presence which I feel and not saint’s presence or worker’s presence or ministers presence.

        Change your vision.




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        1. Finally you have arrived. Now first admission that you are looking at God alone. That is a good start, now use your skills and wisdom to check if the TPM Christ is from the Bible. Bro, keep looking and you will find.

          If I want something printed and published, I will go to a printer/publisher like you. Will I go to the coconut vendor? Come on Koshy Bhai, aap tho samajdhar aadmi hai! Thoda sochke dekho.




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        2. I have not arrived anywhere, and I believe you are arriving to God now and you are going to stop showing your fingers. I am where I am and clinging on to God. Shepherds are given by God and obey them in Christ. Just like Obama was given to US or Modi was given to India, obey your rulers in Christ.




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        3. BTW there is no New Zion in the Bible so where will your servants of god go in eternity. Can you please enlighten me?

          There is New Jerusalem but I can’t see a New Zion.




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        4. It is not a typo,

          it is my statement- there is no New Zion in the Bible. So where will the servants of god go. To Israel? You can take a flight and anyone can stand there? So why all this drama? Enlighten me Brother.

          Just to show you that it is a system built on lies. Hope you can see or you prefer to be remain being led by the blind.




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        5. Read Bible and prepare as what your teacher teaches or what your God teaches. Life is simple and do not complicate it. You are fallen from TPM and making your life all the more complicated.




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  6. How long will you drink from a contaminated spring? Now you know that it is toxic, why don’t you change the source or stop drinking the poison.




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    1. Who is drinking posion? Do you claim bible is poison then you should try Roza and Da Vinci, which may be sweet for you. I drank all three and found Bible as sweet. You should try Roza which may fit you well.




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  7. TPM entire theory is fraught with holes. This is what happens when you use the Bible to support a philosophy developed by a mere mortal like Alwin.

    TPM doctrines are man made and they use the Bible selectively to support it. That is the reason they keep it hidden as it will not be able to stand the test of truth.

    Mate Koshy, one day you will know and then you will realise how blind you were. I was like that so you have company.




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    1. Hello mere dost, who is telling you to follow TPM doctrines. All follows bible only. There is nothing called blind faith, though Jesus sometimes wants us to blindly obey in implicit. If you feel your pant is torn, go and stitch yourself or tell the tailor to stitch. If you feel TPM doctrines have holes, correct and live it accordingly. Nobody will stop you from following Bible including TPM ministers.

      If you have lofty teaching (which you and your team think) than TPM, put it across and follow. You will be deceived like ISIS to claim your teaching as THE ONLY TRUTH and all other fakes as you are claiming now.

      Read bible and live and that’s enough. That’s what TPM teaches and that’s what TPM believers follow. Now in this generation, believers do not see any ministers to follow too. They keep Jesus as model and follow.




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        1. From where they teach? From Veda or Upanishads or Quran or their own Bible? Do you use TPM bible or general Bible that is available in market? Follow Bible and you will follow Christ which the world calls such people as Christian.




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      1. Tpm teaches more than reading the Bible and live. In fact they teach deeper truth but not from the Bible. So how can it be christian? I still cannot understand.




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        1. Is it? But you are intended to follow Bible and Christ more than any. If you are asking your children to fornicate, they have rights to do or they can refute you too. It depends on your children how they are obeying in Christ.




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        2. everyone in the world who are christian follows Bible and not preachers or church. If you see someone following people advise to follow Bible. This is what I do and this is what almost all churches teaches including your hated TPM.




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        3. TPM teaches Bible? Hahahaaa what a joke!!! First of all, TPM is a cult which follows “deeper truths” straight from the pit of hell. Everything is revolved around these hellish teachings




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        4. HAHAHAHA… yes TPM teaches veda and quran.
          Daniel is the one who follows bible which are called ‘worldly truths’ straight from the prince of the world.
          For such bible is not required, just encyclopedia will suffice. You can spend your rest of your lifer reading this and master it.




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  8. This story touched me a lot, and I want to share it with you.

    The theme was: HOLD ON TO CHRIST:

    A Pastor was ministering in a remote area where he had to trek each Sunday for 4 hours through thick forest, and to make it on time, he had to start travelling on foot from 4:00 am.

    One Sunday morning, as the Pastor was in the midst of the forest, thunder announced rains. He knelt down and prayed to God to hold the rains back until he reached the parish and to protect his pastoral vestments, his Bible and communion. But after prayer, the rains started pouring heavily. He reached the parish badly soacked by the rains. He preached but with discouragement because to him, God had not answered his prayers.

    Back home, he could not even eat. He was contemplating whether to resign or continue because he could no longer serve a God who does not answer prayers. He believed his prayers were not effective and did not match his preaching.

    While he was reflecting on the decision to take, three young men entered his home and said to him: “Pastor, we came to testify and assure u that you should continue serving your God for He is a living God.”

    The pastor changed his attitude and was eager to know more. They showed him money and told him they’d been paid to kill him because his prayers and preachings were disturbing the witches, wizards, sorcerers and occultists in this community.

    That they were in the forest waiting for him to shoot him when from nowhere and in the midst of the dry season, heavy rains started pouring and wet the gun powder they were to use. They were shocked by this event. They were holding guns in their hands as they watched the pastor pass them with no power to accomplish their awful mission.

    After hearing this, the Pastor knelt down, thanked God and committed to serve Him for the rest of his life and said, he has a God that will never fail him.

    Do you have a God that always answers your prayers the way you want?

    Draw your own lesson. The truth is: GOD ANSWERS PRAYER.

    Be blessed and Hold on to Christ. Share this if you were touched and inspired like I just did.

    Shalom..!!




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