Teaching of TPM to diminish the glory of Jesus Christ and project their own glory!

Dispensationalism is one of TPM’s core teaching. TPM’s New Earth, New Heaven, New Jerusalem & Zion teaching is rooted and grounded in this Nelson Darby based teaching. Unfortunately, this teaching diminishes the glory of God in salvaging mankind. It puts a limit on atonement provided by the death of Jesus. The glory of glorious work of the cross is covered by so called revelation of saints (revelation of dispensation). Sit back and see as we show you how teachings of TPM abuse Jesus Christ.

False Doctrine of Dispensation:

According to TPM, “Dispensation is a period of time in which God deals with his people according to particular law or statute and judges them by that law.”  (Sunday School Std. 11 lesson 8). There are 10 dispensations defined by revelation given to TPM chief Pastors.

  1. Angelic dispensation
  2. Dispensation of Innocence
  3. Dispensation of conscience
  4. Dispensation of law
  5. Dispensation of Transition
  6. Dispensation of grace
  7. Dispensation of tribulation
  8. Dispensation of great tribulation
  9. Millennial Reign,
  10. Eternity.

Now, I am not saying that the period from Adam until us cannot be divided into a period of innocence, a period of law or a period of grace and so on. You can divide the period into “n” number of times as you wish and name it what you want to name it. I have no problems. But the whole idea to which I am dead against is that “God judges people in different ages by different standards.” Abraham will be judged according to conscience and David will be judged according to Mosaic Law. What this means is that if we take dispensation doctrine seriously then it implies that salvation of (being saved from the judgment of God) Abraham depends upon his good works and not upon his faith in Jesus. The Salvation of people of Old Testament then according to this theory does not depend on works of Jesus on the cross. This teaching diminishes the glory of the cross of Jesus Christ. Jesus becomes savior only for world born after 1 A.D. According to TPM’s teaching, existence of Jesus doesn’t really matter to people born before John the Baptist. However, scriptures inform us that they so much longed to see Messiah the Savior (Matt 13:17)!

Let us consider Abraham

Let me prove to you from the bible that Jesus is/was the only way of escape from the wrath of God, for any and every man living in any age. Read it again. Abraham will be saved on “Day of Judgment” not because of his good works or because he walked with God and so on! The only reason which bible clearly mentions as a reason for his salvation is that he believed Messiah Jesus Christ just like we did. This is what Paul is trying to say in Romans 4.

What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found? For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath whereof to glory; but not before God. For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness (Rom 4:1-3).

What Paul means by “Abraham believed God” means that he believed the gospel of Jesus Christ preached by God to him. Shocking! Read what Paul says in Galatians,

And the scripture, …… preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed (Gal 3:8).

Are you still arguing? Wait! Listen to the testimony of Jesus himself.

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. John 8:56

When Jesus said this to Pharisees that Abraham will be saved because he believed in Jesus then Pharisees thought in the same way as people of our times think “Jesus was crucified 1000 years later to Abraham; how could Abraham believe Gospel?” This is how we think and wonder. Jesus was amazed at the unbelief of Pharisees. He said, “Why do you not understand my speech (John 8:43)?” Jesus testified about the salvation of Abraham by faith (as Paul preached in Romans 4 and Galatians 3:28) by saying Before Abraham was, I was (John 8:58).” You can read this whole conversation between Jesus and Pharisees about Abraham’s salvation by his faith on Jesus in John 8.Teaching of TPM to diminish the glory of Jesus Christ and project their own glory!

Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.   (John 8:56-58)

So you can see that scriptures are very clear in saying that salvation of Abraham was because of his faith in Jesus. Yet TPM teaches that Abraham will be saved by his good works or God will judge Abraham according to conscience. They teach that Abraham will go to new heaven even after his belief in Jesus. Are you beginning to see a loophole in revelations received by TPM pastors? Scriptures is not the authority for these people. Some kind of spirit that speaks to these chief pastors – which gives them self-name exalting revelation contrary to scripture is their foundation.

Are you still unconvinced that gospel was preached to people in Old Testament? Read epistle of Hebrews. There the author says that gospel was preached to people in Old testament as it is preached unto us. They looked forward to Jesus as their Messiah and we look backward in history to Jesus as our savior. Read Hebrews 4:2

For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them ……(Heb 4:2).

So here we have two explicit statements in the bible which clearly say “gospel was preached to people living in Old Testament Period.” First one is in Galatians 3:8 and next one is in Hebrews 4:2. First, it says gospel was preached Abraham (a man before Mosaic dispensation – man living in the period of conscience) and then we have witnessed of bible saying gospel was preached to Old Testament Israelites wandering in the wilderness (People living in the dispensation of Law).

But what does TPM teach? Or what is the teaching according to the revelation received by TPM chief pastors?

“Dispensation is a period of time in which God deals with his people according to particular law or statute and judges them by that law.”  (Sunday School Std. 11 lesson 8).

Therefore based on such thinking TPM concludes that Abraham & saints of Old Testament will go to a third category place in eternity called new heaven, and these white washed sepulchers will go to highest and most glorious place in eternity called Zion. When Bible puts no difference between Abraham and us (by saying he believed the gospel and thus was saved by faith – not by works) these false teachers put Abraham in third category place in eternity and exalts themselves into most glorious place. Are you beginning to see why we say this doctrine of Zion is false teaching directly from the pit of hell?  That is why we have been laboring to make you believe to come out of this cult called TPM which makes you believe in another gospel which neither Jesus nor apostles nor Paul preached.

Consider Job

Ok! I’ll highlight more of such clear verses from the bible which clearly informs us that saints in Old Testaments were preached the gospel and them somehow in some way unknown to us, believed in Jesus as their savior. They looked forward to future towards savior as we look at Jesus as our savior backward in history! Listen to the testimony of Job.

I know (I believe) that my redeemer (savior from judgment to come) liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day (day of judgment) upon the earth: And though after my skin worms destroy this body (after death of this body of sin), yet in my flesh (in glorious immortal body) shall I see God

(Job 19:25,26).”

Look at the faith and belief of Job! He says that I believe that my redeemer and my savior lives and he will be there on the last judgment day and though I die and after my death, the worms destroy my body, yet I will live (live eternally) and behold my God! What a wonderful faith! Do you still think Job does not mean that Redeemer = Savior = Jesus?

At another occasion spirit of Job seeks need of Jesus as a mediator (1 Tim 2:5) and he begs “…my witness is in heaven, and my record is on high, ….mine eye poureth out tears unto God….that one might plead for a man with God (Job 16:19-21)!

Look at what Elihu says in Job 33:23-25! “If there be a messenger (Mediator as in I Timothy 2:5) ….one among a thousand (see- Song of Solomon 5:10), ….then he is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom (Jesus the ransom Matthew 20:28). His flesh shall be fresher than a child’s (New birth – John 3:5) ….he will render unto man his righteousness (righteousness which was lost in the garden of Eden by committing original sin).

Are you beginning to see the gospel in Old Testament? See what Holy Spirit is making Elihu say? “His flesh shall be fresher than child’s..” Doesn’t this sound like “verily verily I say unto you that unless a man be born again he cannot enter the kingdom of God?

Consider Moses

What about Moses? How were the Old Testament Saints be saved? Apart from Jesus – as TPM teaches? Absolutely no!  They all believed Jesus Christ. There is no name given for salvation to any man in any age apart from Jesus Christ. So why will they end up in third category place of new heaven? Just because these saints of TPM received revelation? Brother and sister, read Hebrews 11 and may God open the eyes of your understanding to see the cloud of witnesses surrounding us. There is an entire list of all those who believed and were saved by faith. Look at what it says about Moses for example. It says he esteemed the reproaches of Christ greater than treasures of Egypt. Do you still think Moses did not look towards Jesus as savior ahead of his time as we look to Jesus back in history? See the gospel preached by God himself by the mouth of Moses to people in the wilderness.

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him (Deut. 18:18-19)

Do you still think you people will go to New Jerusalem/Zion and Moses will go to a place of lower glory called new heaven?

Look at what scriptures say about saints of Old testament – about how they stood for their testimony of salvation by belief in Jesus name:

To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins (Acts 10:43).

I can go on and on – showing you from scriptures that scriptures teach that all those people of Old Testament believed in Jesus or gospel was preached unto them! But more important is the testimony of Jesus! He can convince you thousand times better than me! He convinced me. He will convince you too! Believe him! See how he taught his disciples and see how their hearts burned when he showed them from Old Testament Scriptures about himself.

And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself (Luke 24:27)And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures (Luke 24:32)

Conclusion:

Dear Brothers and Sisters! This TPM teaches a false gospel and another gospel – gospel of salvation by works! Don’t be deceived by their teachings! Don’t put your trust in their hypocritical show of saintliness! Don’t put your trust in their prayers! These people are deceivers! Don’t give them your money and hard earned cash! Don’t participate in their spreading of false teachings by giving them money in name of tithes! If you give them money you are actually participating in spreading the false gospel and false teachings which they spread! These workers of iniquity are not expanding the kingdom, God! They are expanding their own kingdom of TPM. Shame to all those who expand their own organization by any name – be it TPM or whatever! Expand the name and glory of Jesus Christ, not your own denomination and organization and your own church! May God bless you!

116 Comments on “Teaching of TPM to diminish the glory of Jesus Christ and project their own glory!”

  1. Great interpretations and presentation. Hope that at least some of the blinded eyes of TPM people will open. May GOD bless you.

  2. I agree with Brother Franklin. Indeed, very well explained. It would take a real discerning heart to understand what has been explained above. Trust me, it’s not easy to erase all the junk that has been shoved into the minds of the TPM (or be it any other cult) and adapt to an altogether different (which is TRUE) interpretation of Scriptures. It took me some time, but by God’s grace, I’m out of it. Thank God!

    1. Dear xTPM,
      I sincerely thank God for bringing you out of this cult. As you have pointed out it is not that easy to rewrite all these junks which are cramped in the mind. Praise the Lord.

  3. TPM adherents must decide whom they will follow.

    TPM is thoroughly exposed for all of its false doctrines.

    TPMites, clinging to the words and idols of TPM will not save a soul.
    But clinging to Jesus who said his work of salvation was finished on the cross does save.

    Now, whom TPM will you serve? Christ who sets you free? Or TPM system?

    For if these men of TPM knew the truth they would have made changes for the truth long ago.

    For verily, John’s words fit TPM.
    John warned, Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

    They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

    And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

    These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. 1 John 2: 18,19,25 and 26.

    Choose life in Jesus.
    He is waiting to lead you to where you can drink of the living water.

    1. Did you read the about us section?

      Check it out. You can find it on the top menu bar. If you had read it you would not have asked this question

  4. One of the lines in the About us section that says “This Blog site is hosted and run by a group of TPM Believers” – can you explain what you mean by TPM Believers?
    Are you, the admin/host consider yourself a TPM Believer?

    Why don’t you use a domain name like “deviousteachingsofTPM.com” instead of fromtpm.com?

    1. We are TPM believers by association to the people of the organization. However, we strongly disagree with the cultish doctrines and practices of the organization.
      We could have used any such domain names as mentioned by you. However, there are some other considerations like easy domain names for quick remembrance among folks which need to be considered.

  5. There were many disagreements during the early Apostle times (between Peter and Paul, between Paul and Barnabas for example). They did not end up dedicating their time, energy, grace, wisdom, money for the cause of publishing/exposing details of each other’s faults or about other’s problems or personal issues. They may have mentioned short information about issues dealing with people while ministering without going too much into the details. The spirit of God did not allow too much details or complete information about those incidents or differences of opinion to be in God’s word.

    All earthly people or organizations will definitely have issues or problems. Do you have any other association with any people of any other organization (besides TPM)? Do you perform a similar role writing about those organizations as well?

    While publishing pictures of individuals or group of people, do you ask for their permission?

    1. You seem to be living the TPM delusion that you do not even want to bother about history or scriptures. You should have at least thought twice.

      Anyway…Why do you think Paul penned the whole of the epistle to the Galatians? Do you know why? In case you do not know…Do some research and then get back.

      As far as the disagreement of Paul with Barnabas is concerned, it’s not regarding the teaching or doctrines. It was simply a difference in opinion.

      There is a huge difference between both the cases ok?

      As far as what other associations we have …It’s not in the context here.

    2. Does Paul asks us to take permission of evil workers of Darkness before exposing them? If you do not know read Eph 5:11-13.
      Did Jesus ask permission from the Pharisees before Exposing them? Matt 23
      Did the Church of Ephesus ask permission from the False Apostles before exposing them? Rev 2:2

      Does TPM asks permission of the believers before they misuse the finances given by them? At least they have not asked permission from me for the crores they have taken from me.

    3. Dear Anonymous,
      //There were many disagreements during the early Apostle times (between Peter and Paul, between Paul and Barnabas for example).//
      As admin pointed it was not on doctrines and personal preference. Please read Acts 15 without TPM lens. In spite of this they never claimed that they have deeper revelations which are beyond the knowledge of even our Saviors and Redeemer Jesus Christ. Recently I was attending a TPM convention at Mumbai. Pastor yunis (Mumbai TPM center pastor) has claimed if we love another (which is a bygone conclusion in tpm) and stick together we will have deeper truths. Immediately this incident flashed in my mind. What is this? Absolute disrespect to the Bible and the word of God.

      //They did not end up dedicating their time, energy, grace, wisdom, money for the cause of publishing/exposing details of each other’s faults or about other’s problems or personal issues.//

      Here you are absolutely right. Have you ever seen such a situation in any TPM faith home anywhere in the world. These white clad day light so called saints are always practicing your contentions. Then why you are keeping a blind eye towards all these immoral acts.

      Do you know why “saint” Emmanuel from Mumbai has been transferred to Punjab? For breaking some marriage? You may be very well aware of “Saint” Sunny George impetuosity through this site. “Saint” Daniel at Rajamundri tells the believers to stay awake overnight and he goes to sleep. How many more incidents you want?

    4. Anonymous, Please do not compare the true apostles of Christ like Peter and Paul with the false ones (who have taken it upon themselves to call themselves “apostles” in the 21st century). It is insulting to them. While the apostles of Christ taught unadulterated truth, TPM teaches heresies of the highest order masqueraded as “deeper truth” and people who don’t know any better (mostly because they are blinded and indoctrinated from their childhood) swallow it hook, line and sinker.
      As followers of Christ we are to speak the truth in love and it is our responsibility to confront error especially in a church like TPM where so many are taken for a ride. TPM does not have the gospel, yet the pride and elitism infused in the church will make people live in deception. As such, every effort we make to expose and point out the errors in TPM’s “doctrines” will not be in vain. I say this as someone who was once part of this cult and I know full well how people are enslaved to this organization.
      As you very well know, the majority of the articles in this site are not “pointing faults and sins” but rather pointing out the false doctrines. It is the false doctrines that breed sins in TPM. There are numerous articles that thoroughly refutes every TPM specific doctrine. If you have a biblical support for TPM specific doctrines, we’d love to hear it.

      1. Apologies if the writing appears to be that of comparing two different people or groups instead of situations.

        Absolutely, there is nothing wrong in pointing out false doctrines of any group.
        Jesus clearly pointed out the doctrinal issues of other groups and their hypocrisy.

        Jesus rebuked individuals also and hinted at the individual who was going to betray him. I don’t think he exposed individuals similar to the way it’s done here.

        As a common courtesy, it’s better to post others pictures publicly after getting their permission. If I don’t want to post my picture publicly and I am posting others pictures publicly, I would be in violation of the basic commandment given in Mark 12:31.

        1. Anonymous, It is ABSOLUTELY necessary to post pictures of people like Sunny George. People like him who prey on the innocent needs to be exposed so that people are warned and stay away from him since the church chooses to hide the culprits just like the RCC. If I had a kid, I would ABSOLUTELY WANT to know what this homosexual pedophile looks like. As for other articles like the murder of Kanagaraj, those pictures are evidences. I’m sure every picture used in this site is out of necessity. Moreover, such articles are a minimal. Over 90% of the articles are simple refutation of TPM doctrines from the word of God.

          This article for instance doesn’t have any pictures. It is a straightforward refutation of TPM’s teachings.

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        2. Do you know all registered/known perpetual sex offenders in your place of work and/or study and in your neighbourhood (around your living place)?
          Have you made attempts to spot them? If so, do you provide names and pictures of those known offenders to other kids/youths in your place/location? Where have you publicly posted them?

          If it is absolutely necessary to post pictures of this particular individual, do you feel the same absolute necessity to post pictures of all other worst known perpetual sex offenders in this same forum(website). There are many registered/known sex offenders who have clearer vision than this man to consistently prey on the innocent people. They could be teachers in public or private schools or lecturers/professors in college who have consistently offended children through sexual means.

          So if you are worried about this one individual, do you search, find and provide the list of these offenders (within a known proximate distance of where they live, study and work) and their pictures to anybody who have kids in other parts of the world?

        3. I’m not a journalist or a reporter. If witnesses from my workplace or my neighborhood come forward and tell me of a person who is a pedophile, I would definitely let everyone know. It’s a no-brainer. Same as what happened here. Nobody went looking for pedophiles and murderers, people volunteered to bring in the info.

          As for this website, it deals with the issues of TPM alone. It makes no sense posting pictures of criminals who are not part of this church. If the church is hiding murderers and pedophiles to save face, I’m all for people to know who that person is.

        4. How do you verify a pedophile, before letting “everyone” know? What is your method/process/next steps when you hear such things?

        5. Verify? I’m sorry. Am I supposed to go back in time and get sexually abused by the man to know with certainty that he is a pedophile? Seems like that is the only thing that would convince the veracity of any accusation against these “saints”.

          A TPM minister penned a letter explaining the circumstances of his leaving the ministry, TPM’s own history of covering up abusers and murderers and enough victims coming forward with their abuse story is enough for me to biblically (1 Tim 5:19) ascertain that Sunny George is indeed a homosexual and a pedophile.

          If you need more than that, I’m sure every Roman Catholic priest too is squeaky clean even though there are so many victims of abuse coming forward.

        6. To expand a little more on 1 Tim 5.

          “Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. But those elders who are sinning you are to reprove before everyone, so that the others may take warning. I charge you, in the sight of God and Christ Jesus and the elect angels, to keep these instructions without partiality, and to do nothing out of favoritism.

          There are more than 2 or 3 witness in this case. The biblical mandate it to reprove a sinning elder BEFORE EVERYONE. Can you give me an example of this happening in TPM? The truth is TPM cares more about it’s name and protecting the false perception of purity in the eyes of the believers. Like I always say, scripture isn’t the foundation TPM stands on so they care little about what it says.

        7. Ok, what is your definition of a pedophile?

          Did those witnesses claim that they have taken the matter to the higher authorities before coming to you?

        8. If it’s sunny George’s case, it was taken up with the relevant higher authorities. However, as usual they too tried to cover up and subtly transfer him to Trichur to remove the black mark. Is that what you would call as a correction ?
          We were expecting that the leaders of TPM take it seriously and discipline the offender. Nah…It never happens within influential Clergy.

  6. So, what do you think of the accuser of the brethren or who he is or what is going to happen to them – according to Revelation 12:10?

    John received revelation from Jesus Christ (by sending his angel) about seven different churches and wrote about it – he did not hear it from another human being or see it himself. So, he did not ask for their permission. So, the Church of Ephesus which is one among those seven churches did not expose anybody or asked permission from the false or fake apostles. Some of these people in these seven churches would have understood the warnings and may have taken appropriate steps. Likewise, many of these people whom you are accusing may have been forgiven by God (if God has accepted their repentance from the dead works and if they forsook such deeds or works). For those of us who are repeatedly causing offences without any repentance, I am sure we will face the wrath of God at the appropriate time. Jesus revealed himself openly and warned about all those hypocrites because He knew what they have been doing. He has seen it himself and so there is truth in it. So, there is no need for him to ask permission from those people before talking about it.

    Regarding pictures if you don’t want to post your pictures and you are posting others pictures, is it fair?

    Regarding the crores you claim to have given – if you think you are giving your earthly personal wealth/money (not what God has given to you) you are entitled to ask account of it. You may indicate that to whomsoever you are giving while giving or before giving. But whatever God has put in your heart to give, you received from him and you should give them freely. It should not be done with compulsions or conditions or second thoughts.

    1. Bro Anonymous,
      //They did not end up dedicating their time, energy, grace, wisdom, money for the cause of publishing/exposing details of each other’s faults or about other’s problems or personal issues.//

      See the witness from bible that they actually laboured hard to expose wrong doings of brethren. See below article.

      https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/03/17/difference-between-finding-mistakes-of-individuals-and-exposing-false-doctrines/

      If you think that it is waste of time energy when we expose then as use our enery time is something important like something as important as salvation. As Franklin pointed to Acts 15, we see Paul and 12 Apostles discussing the vital matter of salvation. Let us emulate them. Would you emulate them? If yes then let us then discuss few articles.

      1) https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/03/28/heresies-in-tpm-part-5-salvation-by-faith-works/
      2) https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/03/12/heresies-in-tpm-part-3-the-incomplete-sacrifice-and-ministry-of-christ/
      3) https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/03/11/usurping-jesus/
      4) https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/04/23/faith-life-of-tpm-workers/
      5)https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/05/01/the-religious-spirit-in-tpm/

    2. Dear Anonymous,
      What makes you think that these false apostles who rule over innocent people by deceit are BRETHREN?
      How long will it take for you to know that these people are NOT Brethren But Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing? They need to be exposed thoroughly without any leniency.
      Matt 7:15
      “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.”

  7. FYI, False apostles ≠ Brethren mentioned in Revelation 12:10

    A false of fake apostle ministry and doctrine cannot last long. It will fade away quickly.

    On the other hand, a true Spirit filled and Spirit led ministry cannot be shaken by anything.

    1. //A false of fake apostle ministry and doctrine cannot last long. It will fade away quickly.//

      FYI: Roman Catholic Church is standing since 2000 years!!

    2. Dear Anonymous,
      Your foundation itself is on the sand. That is the reason why you make statements like this. The Church of Jesus Christ is not represented in this World by any Organization. The Church of God is a collection or assembly of called out individuals. They are not subjugated under the auspices of any human organization like TPM. As mentioned earlier, Human Church institutions are cheap imitations to trap unlearned, gullible and ignorant souls.
      You become the member of the Church of God by accepting his Lordship and being his child. This does not have to be linked with any organization. The Church of God is a Living Organism.
      What you understood as Church is referred in the Bible as Mystery Babylon the Harlot.

  8. Dear Anonymous
    Instead of picking up verses from here & there, plz sit and study the Bible with a good intention. You said that the spirit filled & spirit led ministry can not be shaken by anything. Do you want to prove that TPM is a spirit filled & spirit led ministry? You mean that, murder of pastor Kanagraj, rape & murder of a sister in Secunderbad are the the ministry of spirit filled & spirit led ministry. Yes, it is spirit filled & spirit led ministry, not the Holy Spirit filled & Holy Spirit led but fallen spirit filled & fallen spirit led ministry. Yes, it might remain unshaken till the coming of the Lord. Do you know, Lord Jesus gave the parable of wheat & tares? The master of the field allowed it to remain till the harvest. It didn’t mean that the master was very happy with the tares. Same is the case of spirit filled & spirit led ministry you spoke about.

  9. The master allowed the tares to remain, yes. When the son of perdition was identified as a thief, the Lord could have gone on to continually expose or warn about that individual with other human beings or others who are called with him. He could have asked him to leave His ministry. He could have used similar words mentioned in this site to describe that individual everywhere he went. He indeed warned people about certain false doctrines of others but chose to keep quiet on this particular individual’s activities. He allowed this particular tare to remain with Him most of the time. Whomsover God gave Him in this world to minister, he kept them. Except for the son of perdition who was lost all others remained. This individual even had a recommendation on how to use the resources that was given to the Lord (he mentioned that it can be sold and given to the poor – it was not because he cared for the poor, but because he was a thief). Same way any tares in any organization will perish at some point or the other.

    Can you call or describe the relationship between the son of perdition and Jesus as a fellowship with fruitful or unfruitful works?

    When you use the organization name and use the word believers next to it, what do you mean? Can you instead use unbelievers or non-believers of that organization when you have many disagreements?

    When you quote that a certain earthly organization which exists now was started 2000 years ago – how certain are you about that?

    1. John 17:12 says that the Son of Perdition was required for the scripture to be fulfilled.That is the reason why Jesus did not throw out the fellow.

      But what we see here is a love ministry of loving others and rebuking them from going into error.
      We are expected to love our neighbour as ourselves. One aspect of loving them is rebuking them from falling into wrong ways.

      Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him. Lev 19:17

    2. Well in case you are pointing to Brother Nath’s 2000 year old quote about RC, you are nitpicking even after you understood the crux.
      If you need a better figure you can make it 1700 or 1600 years old, even though the RC claims to be a 2000 year old institution just as the Orthodox folks also claim.

      But what he meant was that all false institutions which claim to be the church of God are still remaining on this earth with bigger crowds and hence you are under no obligation to accept that they are true ministries just because they did not vanish away.

      Jesus will allow the Tares to Grow along with the Wheat till the harvest time. Therefore you can expect TPM, RC, Orthodox, JW, SDA etc to be there even during the tribulation period… That does not mean they are true churches. Hope you understood my point.

    3. Dear Anonymous
      How badly it hurt your sentiment when we target some individuals of the organization that you are strongly supporting? Don’t you know that such seeds were sown in our hearts by this cult organization? In one of your comment you have used Revelation 12:10. I think the TPM ministers & believers are more expert in accusing the brethren. It’s true that Jesus kept the son of perdition with him & never did expose him to anyone. But do you know that Jesus never exposed him even after he left & betrayed him? But TPM ministers(particularly female folk) & believers never hesitate to expose one another. When anyone quits the organization, then the propaganda about him/her becomes even worst. TPM ministers even go to the extent to warn their members not to allow any who have left them to enter their houses. It means the ministers have taken the courage to control the freedom of their believers & dictate them different terms. I think very soon these frauds will take the onus on themselves to dictate their members about daily chores too. Isn’t it a mind control? The entire TPM has crossed all limits.

  10. At least they have not asked permission from me for the crores they have taken from me.
    – How does this “taken from me” happens?
    – Can you explain an actual instance?

    Are this numbers for the 1600-1700 year old standing organization another guess work or based on any specific findings? What is your proof?

    1. Hello dear anony
      In case you did not know, TPM is a church which blackmails people to give 10% or above of their earnings. They have this devious doctrine which says that the Money you earn is Cursed. So to remove the curses you need to pay them at least a 10% of it. I have heard this at multiple instances. So people who are ignoramusus like how I was, they hand over their money to these pickpockets out of fear of financial issues. That is TPM Mode of Taking Money.

      Well. AS far as the age of RC is concerned, I have no obligation to teach History to you. You can do a simple Google check for that. Anyway, just in case you did not know, the Present Form of RC started evolving from 325 AD following the council of Nicea. Do some research for yourself rather than coming with such deluded questions.

      https://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html

  11. Is this blackmailing to give 10% given in any of the documentation or done in secret or done directly when the person preaches or done in an indirect way?

    1. I do not know of any documentation. I have heard it in many sermons and also from Sisters of the mission when they were at home for visits. So I guess, this is also part of their training program

      1. Do you have any clips of those sermons and the names of preachers who ask for these?

        May I also ask, how do these sisters mention – do they directly ask or indirectly point to something – and is it to a female family member of your home or they ask it from a male family member?

  12. Dear Anonymous
    I want to ask you, is it ok for your leaders to protect a murderer by bribing the judiciary system with the hard-earned money of the believers? Is it ok to bury a sister who was raped & murdered, projecting it as a normal death? If you are a genuine person then why don’t you raise these issues with your leaders? If you are not then remember you too have a part with them.

  13. Who bribed who – do you have any specifics?

    Did you see the actual transactions or you have any valid reliable evidence of it?

    Is it not ok for any leaders or individuals to bribe judiciary system with their money or for that matter others money as well.

    And it is not ok to project any unnatural death as a natural or normal death.

    We do have a hope that one day all these things will come to light (even if somebody tries to hide something now, the truth will be revealed by the most reliable authority at the right time)

  14. Correction – my previous comment should be “It is not ok for any leaders or individuals to bribe judiciary system with their money or for that matter others money as well.”

    This would be an ungodly or unethical conduct.

    If this is well known or the money that changed hands can be traced, the next higher level judiciary should be approached by the affected parties to resolve it further.

    1. Well its quite well known about this. You can even ask the lawyer who took up the case on behalf of the dead man. Unfortunately, that is how indian judiciary functions. Moreover, who will fight against an organization with huge sums of money on behalf of a dead man?

  15. The man who died as a martyr may have possibly got the highest possible promotion and may be rejoicing in His presence now.

    So, even if it is well known, it needs to be proven beyond doubt at the courts. If the lawyer knows all the true facts and has evidence to back the claims, he should still be able to fight it out at the next level (if there were clearly written laws to prosecute this case). There were many questionable judgements in the past by lower courts and those have been reversed later on by the next higher courts. There were many efficient and truthful justices in the system. There are also many lawyers who use the loopholes in the system to the favor of their clients.

    1. Dear Anonymous,

      Why do you defend and make excuses for murderers and abusers of themselves with mankind by saying #The man who died as a martyr may have possibly got the highest possible promotion and may be rejoicing in His presence now in light of these sins#?
      and
      ##even if it is well known, it needs to be proven beyond doubt at the courts##?

      NOW God says – What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
      God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
      Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
      Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
      For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. Romans 6:1-6

      Why then these excuses?

      Just as the elders of the people, the rulers, the chief priests, the scribes, and the politically correct Herod, had accused and mocked Jesus at his trial (because Jesus had rebuked their sectarian/cultish teachings and exposed them as hypocrites) so also will Jesus still be mocked today.

      Jesus warned all men about deceivers. We are to take heed. We are to beware of the leaven of the religious cult exponents. We are not to partake of their old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, which corrupts whole systems. Instead, says the scripture, keep the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 1 Corinthians 5:8

      You will notice that false workers work against true spiritual understanding of God’s word, just like these #excuses# are designed to do, which have been mentioned above by Anonymous.

      Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
      And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.
      As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith. Galatians 6:7-10

      May the Lord God be glorified forever.
      And may God bless you.

        1. Dear Anonymous,
          I am refering to your statement #The man who died as a martyr may have possibly got the highest possible promotion and may be rejoicing in His presence now.#
          1)Why do you call this man #a martyr#?
          2)And what do you mean by saying #the highest promotion#?
          3)Why do you state a level and ranking, saying the #highest# promotion.

          May the Lord God be glorified forever. And may God bless you.

        2. If you don’t know the man, you won’t need to know any further information. I cannot decide any level or ranking – it’s all decided by the righteous judge. That’s why the word “may” is used.

          If you want to understand the deeper truths, I can give you a contact
          person and a telephone number. This may help you call and clarify some of the false information posted here.

        3. Dear Anonymous,
          From this thread of comments I see that you have linked the murdered Pastor Kanakaraj with the word #martyr#.
          You have stated that #the man died as a martyr#.

          You have stated that he #may have possibly got the highest possible promotion#.

          Why are you not able to explain what you mean, openly, when you refer to #the highest# possible promotion ?

          Hopefully Anonymous you will be able to give me an answer.

          1 Peter 3:15 – But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

          God bless you.

        4. The reason of the hope that is in me with meekness and fear is
          due to the following:

          My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus’ blood and righteousness.
          I dare not trust the sweetest frame, but wholly lean on Jesus’ name.

          On Christ the solid rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.

        5. Thank you Anonymous for your reply.

          Now, can you also give me an answer to
          – why you wrote that the murdered Pastor Kanakaraj #died as a martyr#?
          – why you have stated that he #may have possibly got the highest possible promotion#?
          – and why do you say, the #highest# possible promotion?

  16. Dear Anonymous,
    Jesus said that the world hated him because he testified of it, that its works were evil. Jesus said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
    If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
    He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent me, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him. John:16-18

    Anonymous, whose words do you speak? Whose glory do you seek? Who has sent you and whose words do you speak?

    If you seek God’s glory, then you will do God’s will and speak of Jesus and give him glory. He is of the truth and there is no unrighteousness in him.

    Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod. Jesus said to the officers sent by the Pharisees and the chief priests to capture him, Ye shall seek me, and shall not find me: and where I am, thither ye cannot come. John 7:34

    Unbelievers cannot enter into Christ’s glory.

    So Jesus said, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.
    He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

    May Christ give you living water for this website.

      1. Dear Anonymous,
        Why do you ask this?
        Is this what you do?
        I KNOW that God is the author of all scripture by the witness of the Holy Spirit. He has given us his words of truth in the holy scriptures for us to discern what people are saying, whether words come from him or not.

        Jesus gives us the living water from his inspired word, which is made in us, who have received him, a well of water which springs up into everlasting life. Water which is pure and clean, with no contaminants or adulterations. For it flows from the mouth of God by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. See what Hebrews 4:12-14 says, my friend.

        Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

        13 Neither is there any creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and opened unto the eyes of him with whom we have to do.

        14 Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.

        Jesus is the true word, by which no-man will ever be mislead. He is the true Shepherd of our souls and in him is life and life eternal.

  17. I think the admin and his followers/team mates can be a good representatives of media. Just like how the media is focused on only negative @##$ of this world, you guys are only focused on that. The time and energy you put against the TPM doctrines and teachings is such a waste. You think all dominions / organizations in this world are flawless!! What are u guys even trying to do here. It is such a stupidity. You think you are trying to make the world a better place by exposing the TPM doctrines? How many souls are you saving my explaining your church’s wrong doings? I don’t have much time so am writing in short. I will write once am back from work. But seriously get a life guys. You are not going to gain anything here or heaven above by going against a church.

    1. TPM is a cult, not a true church. They teach nothing but made up doctrines without any solid basis in scripture. Is it any wonder that none of you pro-TPM commenters have any refutation from the word of God?

      1. Richard (am sure that is not even your real name)…do you think I am going to really quote Bible references to cowards!! Compared to you guys I respect all those folks who come out in the open and oppose the missionary work. In the real world, all of you are referred as FOOLS. RCC has so much flaws. The modern followers of Christ call them as Anti-Christ church and what not, but do you see them deterred. There are thousands priests and nun who spend their lives taking care of orphans, lepers and what not, but the world doesnt look at them but only at their flaws. Likewise, TPM may have flaws too, but why should I or you look at them and not follow our Christ who actually laid out the righteous path. If God told you to move away from this Church do so, but God never told you, “my son Richard and Admin , please open a frigging blog and start writing my church”, if that was case HE would asked you to do first against the RCC. You don’t even want to move away from church. You want to sit in the assembly, listen to the daily preachings, look at the believers, sunday school teachers, the workers and judge them and then come out here and vomit them. Seems very similar to a creature…I think it is a PIG.

        1. Dear Harry,
          Why can’t you be honest? You cannot quote scripture supporting TPM doctrines here because there ain’t any.
          Just helpless ranting like this exposes your nakedness. Nothing more.

        2. Harry,
          You don’t have to worry about our calling. We will reply to the Lord about it. If we have fed this monster(TPM Institution) with our time,money and energy, we also have the authority to do the corrections . Your gnashing of teeth does not deter us a bit.
          You are just proving to be one of those ignorant TPMite and we feel pity for you.

  18. @harry.

    If it pricks you from these posts, please inform your elders of this website, and try to resolve the issues. Calling out names does not affect the other person. Do you come to this blog, because God asked you to? better refrain from commenting or approach your elders for a discussion.

  19. You know the worst part…all of you just went to a defensive mode, just like how these debates happen in Media. Everyone is trying to defend even if they know it is wrong. They too quote from their worldy docs (constitution, IPC’s, law, etc). But even the media know they are doing so to get TRP and maximum attention. And that is what you bunch of all you are!!!

    You accept that you judge even when you go to church today. You think you have put in your time and energy and that gives you right to put anything you want. You want a refund?? LOL!! Seriously!! Once again say that to yourself looking at the mirror, you will see a FOOL.

    You accept that you are a bunch of cowards and you expect folks to honor cowards by quoting biblical scriptures! Everyone seems to be doing so. What you guys put in the verses and explain how it is not true against the scriptures, I only laugh!! I mean, if you think what you are saying is true, why not just go to church pastors and tell them boldly and then decide you will never come to this church. Please do it. Don’t be an hypocrite at least for human’s sake. You all are nothing but a shame to be called MAN!!

    1. If I’m not mistaken, Harry Potter said few days ago that he won’t come back / visit this site as it would impart evil spirits on him. Now he is becoming very restless that one by one all atrocities of TPM is being exposed; Poor guy can’t contain himself and barking without grounds!

  20. More and More of acceptance…Good Job guys!
    Daniel – I have no idea which Harry Potter you are thinking of. I have been coming to this site. Kind of supporting too until I realized that you guys are doing this for NOTHING!!!
    Barking???Really buddy! Let’s meet and figure out how much we can bark and how much we can bite! Not trying to be crazy, just responding to you BARK statement. And after you said that please don’t ref scriptures anymore from the same mouth!!

    Nath – Thanks for the blessings. I felt it immediately and hence writing.

    Let me give a little background here.
    I haven’t given tithes for more than 2 years now (because I have loans). My Father used to say that if you have a loan you should not pay Tithes and I agree with him too.
    Atrocities in TPM existed even before some of us existed.
    Once a worker brother even showed me something which he was not supposed to. Anyways, he could not take the any more of “orders” and he walked off.

    I encountered another case where a worker brother was killed by another believer (the believer kicked him in the chest). He was sick for a while and then passed away. Then a new minister came there (a very good man). His preaching’s were good and was talented for many tasks. But because there was a murder in that church, cops started coming in, believer stared asking questions and what not, the minister decided to leave the ministry!

    I have had instances where some believers were literally (and they still do it) hitting on sisters and they still come in everyday.

    But there are pastors, sisters, mothers and believers who still live a very righteous way and hold firm to their calling. They just don’t believe in the doctrines but wait on the Lord to reveal it to them. They go through temptations, humiliations, hunger (Have you ever been to churches in North India?), poverty. You think all these folks should revolt because you are saying TPM doctrines are false and they are a cult.

    I don’t agree with many of the preaching’s preached every Sunday, I don’t agree when a worker brother is beating a small child only to show authority. I do get the thought “Don’t just stand there Harry. Do something”, but I wait on the Lord to do something. And I swear, HE does. Everytime, I see some crap happening, I see that it always comes around and hits the right person in the right place. I don’t have to take sword or word and that is the teaching of the Holy Spirit. To not do by myself and let Lord do, there is so much joy and more meaning to praise HIM.
    I really don’t want to quote Bible scriptures and then wait on you to revert by twisting for your comfort and then I twist it. I don’t want to give room for any of us to wrongly quote GOD’s WORD.

    1. Brother Harry
      I have a very good knowledge of the spiritual activities going on North India. So far I haven’t seen a single tpm worker in north Indian villages. Do you have know any tpm worker had been beaten by miscreants for spreading the gospel. No, never. They are leading the most comfortable life with all the requirements of flesh.

      Why are you keeping quiet whenever you see all those atrocities are being committed by these so called white clad saints. Because you know they will curse you. Common brother, there’s no Holy Spirit in TPM.

  21. Brother Harry,
    I was using mobile for my earlier comment, so I couldn’t express what I wanted.

    You said, “But there are pastors, sisters, mothers and believers who still live a very righteous way and hold firm to their calling. They just don’t believe in the doctrines but wait on the Lord to reveal it to them.”
    Brother how it is possible to continue someone in the same ministry without believing their doctrines? Either they are hypocrites or they don’t want leave the cosy set up
    they are enjoying. For GOD to work someone has the mind of a child. Here in TPM how many ministers are having such a mentality? I have not seen anyone.

    You said, “You think all these folks should revolt because you are saying TPM doctrines are false and they are a cult.” If you are sure that all TPM doctrines are false then it is your moral responsibility and social obligation to revolt so that someone will also come to know wolves behind the while clad feigning sheep.

    Please don’t be a hypocrite like these TPM saints. I know the biblical background of many of the tpm believers. They hardly know bible except bragging their saints, because TPM never teaches the scriptural reality more because lack of knowledge and intimidatory tactics they adopt to keep the believers as their slaves.

  22. I think it is possible for someone to stay in the same ministry or work without believing or subscribing to all their statement of faith or doctrines or their mission statement(s). You may call them hypocrites, but I don’t necessarily agree with that.

    There are many church members who opt out or stay away from certain things or services/programs of the church if they feel it is not for them or if they feel something is wrong with that or if they don’t have a calling to be involved in it.

    Many non-TPM churches organize multiple services to cater the needs of different individuals. For example in one service, the music played may be contemporary and in another the music may be a traditional one. An outsider or an ex-insider without proper understanding may call this as hypocrisy.

    1. Style of music isn’t a theological issue and I know not of any church that holds separate worship services that cater to musical tastes.

      Beliefs like

      a) Non-TPM folks and folks who are “just saved” go to “New Earth”
      b) Christians who died for their faith go to “New Heaven”
      c) TPM celibates and believers go to Zion and NJ
      d) No communion if you take medicine
      e) no rapture if you take medicine
      d) 7 steps of salvation brought about by human works
      ……(the list can go on)

      are definitely theological issues. One cannot be a “TPM believer” if you deny those beliefs. Just as one cannot be a Roman Catholic and deny that Mary was born without sin. Like I said previously many are enslaved in it because listening to non-TPM sermons are forbidden and people have a fear of exploring the truth outside the 4 walls of the church. Anyone who believes all of TPM’s doctrines in its purest form are bound for destruction. This site serves as an educational tool to those caught up in its web. I for one was someone enslaved to it..defending TPM’s doctrines tooth and nail. It was a website similar to this that spoke the truth from scripture and refuted TPM doctrines USING SCRIPTURE that GOd used to open my eyes.

  23. O my o my , I’m addictive to this site daily checking what interesting updates which I’m unaware of and I thank god for this unveiling secrets and accoustemed practices which were followed by the Largest mission under the sun , and falsely directed many times that one should not serve lord until God called you with TPM calling most of my doubts were clear a small suggestion that this group should not even limited or bound to pull down only should expand like a training for evangelism and charitable ministries

  24. Just my thoughts on your first few lines Richard. Just my perspective and not TPM’s.

    a) Non-TPM folks and folks who are “just saved” go to “New Earth” – I am still looking for an answer to this and I keep it in my prayers. There are newborns who die too. There are young people who die. What is meaning of people being born and not getting a chance to be saved and die?
    b) Christians who died for their faith go to “New Heaven” – I am not sure if they go to New Heaven or to another place in Heaven, but I do believe that if I die as a martyr, I would just land someplace where atleast I can see my God!
    c) TPM celibates and believers go to Zion and NJ – My father also contested this. And so did many of the workers. One of the founding fathers was married and so were many other workers. There are believers who live a more holy life than the workers so why would God not justify them.
    d) No communion if you take medicine – I agree there is no basis on this. But I also believe in this manner, if God tells me (not any pastors or sisters) to trust on him and I don’t, how can I be part of HIM.
    e) no rapture if you take medicine – Again, i would stand fast to my calling. If my calling is to completely trust HIM, I need to do the same.
    d) 7 steps of salvation brought about by human works – I think I know what you mean but just don’t want to blabber crap until I have the proper understanding.

    Now coming to North India. Delhi center has everything. Kolkata center has everything. But let’s go little inside Odisha. There is a village called as Kunjharia (may be I didn’t spell it wrong). It is a tribal village (not sure if you have been to a tribal village). There about 20 believers family. 2 sisters, 1 mother and one brother. They still use those old white cups. The windows and doors still have the blue color. The roof is still thatched. The mother there is about 93 years old (and I feel so peace sitting next to her and listening to her). Half the villages are drunk most of the time. Do they get beatings, no idea buddy…but do they always have something to eat..NOPE. Do they beg, nope. Do they stop 4 o clock praising…NOPE. Did they stop praying on Sundays…NOPE. Beatings…my father used to deny giving money to “chanda” collectors and they used to ransack our home. You have a view of North, I also have a view of North. You want to validate? Let’s meet and travel together, i am more than happy to.

    I do what i do in Christ not because a Pastor or Mother tells me. But because the Lord speaks to me through them. I am not saying as a proud statement, but I believe that my Lord called me and HE will lead me forever.

    My only request is that if you believe that the teachings of TPM is wrong, then you preach what is right not in a blog but form a church. Build up an organization and then let people listen to you and if it is right, they will received Christ in them.

    TPM hid murderers, rapists, pedophiles!!! TPM also had pastors like, Pas Manoharan, TU Thomas, Pas AC Thomas, Pas Don. Many of the doctrines came through them and they just didn’t preach, they lived by it. Look at the bright side and not the dark side. Everyone one has dark side, every organization has dark side, every family has dark side. You dont kill yourself because of your dark side. You don’t abandon your family or kill them because of their dark side. You live with it and fix it. So should you.

    1. Bro Harry,
      John 18:36, Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
      How can you compare the heavenly things with worldly things.

      Once I was listening to an interview with a man of GOD. He said if a man commits adultery, pedophilia, fornication etc he alone will condemn to the hell whereas wrong doctrines will send entire audience and followers to the hell. Now please introspect your commends on this line. Where TPM stands? Due to all these unscriptural teachings what will be place of believers forget about these white clad day time saints? You know that none of these exclusive doctrines of TPM has any bible base and evidence.

      Galatians 1:8, But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!

  25. “Wrong doctrines will send entire audience ….. to the hell” – can you ask that “man of GOD” based on what scripture or information he mentioned this to you?

      1. There are quite a few things you can understand.

        You may easily misinterpret also if you are trying to make a connection between this verse and the previous statement.

        1. Here is an example – Those who carelessly follow people (like a person who has the spirit of calling people as nut, manipulator and other filthy words – whose followers do the same and have pleasure in them that do these) will end up in the same place where the leader is heading.

  26. In your workplace or another place/church if something wrong or contrary to the word of God is spoken or mentioned in some form and if you are part of the audience will you go to hell?

    1. Dear Anonymous,
      If you follow a wrong doctrine especially deceptive ones that are manufactured in TPM, you have a great chance to go against the New Testament Scripture. TPM in fact takes a person back to the ways which are of the gentile nations. They preach a different Gospel (1 Timothy 4:1,Gal 1:9)

      I know you understood what Bro Franklin said. However, you have a wrong spirit of arguing the point even if you understood the intent.So please do this nitpicking on your pastor’s un-scriptural doctrines rather than Franklin’s comments.

  27. When you post part of someone’s sermon (only a sentence and you add words in brackets in between) or part of the information from a written article, without any of the previous and follow up statements/sentences they spoke or written in an article, you can also mislead a reader. Listeners or readers have no obligation to obey or follow false doctrines, for example, the doctrine of calling people unscriptural names like nut, manipulators and other words.

  28. Bro/Sis Anonymous,
    Everybody visiting this site might have understood what I have meant. Listening to false doctrines out of compulsion or lack of knowledge won’t be an issue because the audience won’t know the contents of the speaker. But regularly listening and telling that this is divine truth when everything is against scripture will definitely accountable at the last judgement.

    For example, there is not even half a verse to suggest that old testament saints will go to new heaven. This is definitely heresy. The followers and audience continuously hearing and firmly believing this wrong doctrine is definitely answerable.

    The bible very clearly says Moses and Elijah appeared before Jesus at the time of transfiguration. Then how can one say that it was not Moses but Enoch.

    What is the biblical evidence for 7 steps of salvation. https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/03/28/heresies-in-tpm-part-5-salvation-by-faith-works/

    Following such indoctrination is definitely answerable.

  29. Which church or cult do u attend brother?? Or are you an fallen servant from TPM??? cause seeing your comments i feel that you have a bible written of you own revelation. I dont attend TPM church. Every church has its good part and bad part. Each believer of Christ is called with a eternal calling, no pastors or Church can take you to eternity. If u did not seem it right what the pastor told dont take it. U sit in the presence of God and the Heavenly God will definitely show u the path. Starting a site just to poke someone is not the will of God and God has not given the authority for any one to judge others. Hope you will know the reference to these. Even false prophets know the bible references fully and byheart . By the way i am from IPC and i dont know what you will have to speak about us now. Will you please start a site to Poke us too bro.

    1. Your Camouflage did not work Robin Daniel. First off. Only cults like TPM calls those who leave their ministry as “FALLEN”. You gave away your identity in the first line itself as a TPM brainwashed slave. So just plain lying and camouflaging yourself as an IPC guy just proves that you are of your father the devil. So you will do what you see your father do.


      You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
      John 8:44

        1. Even fallen prophets know bible well versed. Even they quote a lot from bible just like the priests and believers of Christ. They too fill in the spirit. but a different spirit.

        2. But you are fallen even below them as you do not even know the basics and has come to comment here…I am glad you are here for some basics

        3. u dont even know who i am and what i was once. Dont try your cheap instincts on me. i have seen better. Its true i was a fallen man once, i have persecuted my lord once, so dont think i am a silver spooned christian. M

        4. Oh I don’t know your past But sure you are fallen now as you are supporting the TPM Legalistic doctrine and their practices


          You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace.
          Galatians 5:4

        5. “”Oh I don’t know your past But sure you are fallen now as you are supporting the TPM Legalistic doctrine and their practices””

          This is the Joke of the century bro.

  30. At last i have found people who attend a real church with no wrong and complete perfection. Franklin, Admin and company are the only people in the world who knows bible. I guess u people are of divine form sent by God to earth to open our eyes. Praise be to God for sending them. Bro pls show me the way to heaven. I was shown a wrong way, it was filled with thorns and gutters and the way was narrow. I guess you people will know a highway to heaven, kindly guide us.

    1. Good.. You are just reconfirming that you were successfully brainwashed by TPM Pharisees as you do not know the way. Just read the Bible and you will know. But just in case you are too lazy like your other fellows, just read on

      Jesus answered, “I AM THE WAY and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
      John 14:6

      1. I know jesus and already in the way of truth. but you seemed to be the perfected one. Then how are you still on earth?? usually perfected ones are taken up.

        1. Well that is a TPM Doctrine that Perfected ones are taken up. Its not supported by the scripture. No body becomes perfect other than through Jesus. But your cult TPM teaches that you can become perfect by following their Buddhist + Catholic Teachings and following their so called celibates. Keep going.

          According to the bible we only become like Jesus when He returns …’
          Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.
          1 John 3:2

  31. (According to the bible we only become like Jesus when He returns …’
    Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is.) As quoted by you. I you had even once thought this you would have not raised your voice to judge others.
    Every missionary who started their missions are not fools to shed their blood and life for christ. In the long run there could have some short commings. Buts its human to err. All are not called with a divine calling. So it doesnt mean all are fools . and all who go there are cults.

    1. You are so funny, Your interpretation proves you wrong already. This is because you are already judging us.


      So, what did Jesus mean, then, when He said, “Judge not lest ye be judged”? The verse that follows explains—and often it isn’t quoted. Jesus tells us exactly what He meant:

      Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. — Matthew 7:1-2

      Jesus wasn’t confused in His teaching. He didn’t mean we should never make a judgment about right and wrong. As He explained, He meant we shouldn’t make a judgement hypocritically. The verses that follow make this patently clear (Matthew 7:3-5).

      1. You are a real comedy bro. SOm uch and you still say i am judging. Dont know how you have some followers. Ultimate bro. Ill pray for u any ways.

  32. Any ways happy ministrying bro. Every one ministers to bring one to salvation and faith, you minister to shut down TPM. Wish you all the best.
    0 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

    James 4: 11 to 17
    11 Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. 12 There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another? 13 Go to now, ye that say, To day or to morrow we will go into such a city, and continue there a year, and buy and sell, and get gain: 14 Whereas ye know not what shall be on the morrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away. 15 For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that. 16 But now ye rejoice in your boastings: all such rejoicing is evil. 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.

    1. 11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light.
      Ephesians 5:11-13

  33. Your blog doesnt even contain a single article where TPM is not mentioned, this clearly indicates of what spirit you are. Super blg bro. May Eternal God from heaven bless you with some brains and understanding and heavenly wisdom.

    1. Yes Robin, admin is being lead by the Holy Spirit of God.
      He is exposing the false, unscriptural doctrines and controlling practices of men within TPM.

      The Holy Spirit will never glorify men, (like TPM teachings do!) but brings glory only to the Lord Jesus Christ.

      You can see from the articles that the word of God, which is the sword of the Spirit, is preached for doctrine, reproof, correction, and instruction in righteousness, and to expose the heretical TPM teachings.

    2. To start with, Robin said an outright lie that he’s not from TPM. By the way he ranted without any scriptural basis and loosing ground just saying “I’ll pray for you”, it was very typical TPM brainwashed style. I had my serious doubts and now admin has proven that he is indeed from TPM cult.

  34. Robin thinks nobody can trace his whereabouts. Sadly, everyone can easily understand that he is a brainwashed hardline tpm devotee because no one else use such regressive language.
    You don’t know anything from bible except rantings you received from your white clad day time audacious people whom you call as saints. The site name itself is fromtpm.com which clearly shows that admin is concerned only with the cult called tpm.

  35. In case you want to see a private threat mail of divine retribution send by our dear friend, you can read below


    Who ever the hell you are,
    I suppose you to be a fallen servant, who did not have the courage and the power of God to survive in the divine ministry of TPM till ur death.
    You the fallen and trying to pull in as many as possible with you to the eternal hell fire.
    Hve gone through your God forsaken fromtpm.com site and waht bull sith have you written in there????
    You better stop it or the wrath of God on you is going to be much more horrible. With grief in my heart i tell u to stop spreading the false messages and news. No matter how hard you try this mission will continue till the end. Because it has the true blood of saints and believers who have shed their blood for Christ.
    You seem to enjoy in doing this heinous thing. If you dont stop it really u can just wait to see the anger of God in your family and in your life, that day u will cry but your cries will not be heard, on that day you will repent for all what u have said and done .
    This message is from a true believer of Jesus. Christianity was tried to be pulled down even in the historical period with such comments you have said. But see how Christianity have prevailed the storms and the tempest.


  36. If you can’t take the heat, get out of the kitchen. The Wrath of God is reserved for those who twisted the word of God to support Alwinism, and his personal revelations, One of the courageous successors of Alwin, called Alwinism doctrines of demons, from the pits of hell. I personally thank God for fromtpm.com. Thank God for the thousands who have been delivered. Fromtpm.com It is God ordained and timely. May God’s blessings rest upon the administration,who have steel in their spine and guts!

    1. Dear Brother, I have read your testimony. I am going to TPM church but unable to experience any freedom in the spirit. Above all I am greatly upset about the dressing doctrines but lack of change in.inner self ESPECIALLY the rich in TPM. Can you please share your mail I’d on john1ganesh@gmail.com. I would like to know more through mail. PLEASE.

  37. Dear Admin,
    See the curse of a true believer. I can’t understand what he meant by a true believer. This is the language of a true believer? Does he know anything about spirituality, bible, JESUS except bragging about false doctrines and the most heinous people on the earth which he considers himself as saint?

    What is the part by saints in the death of Ammini at Kottarakkara faith home? Why contraceptives are needed for saints (along with the dead body of Ammini buckets of contraceptives have also flushed out from Kottarakkara faith home well)?

    You may be knowing the brutal killings of Pastor Kanakaraj at Thoothukudi faith home? Very recently at Seconderabad one sister’s body was exhumed and autopsy reports confirmed that she was pregnant? Do you think these are the acts of saints? Even carnal man doesn’t do such acts.

    Genuine saints are in Himalayas who left everything (not according to bible) by the standard set by TPM. Here these people are leading the most cosy life under the pretext of saints in faith homes.

    If these people are saints, then who is wicked?

    Galatians 1:8, “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!”

    Those who are supporting them also come under the above category…

    What do you mean by fallen? https://fromtpm.com/blog/2017/05/23/twisted-meanings-in-tpm-backsliding/

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