An exposition of TPM – The Cult

In its early days of inception, TPM took a wrong turn towards unchallenged leadership and willful obedience to their leaders. In spite of many unscriptural practices, the organization continued to grow into a huge monolith that they themselves do not know how to handle it.

Cults like that of TPM are started when they bring in unconnected scriptural positions with their own interpretations. They love to control people by twisting of scriptures. This kind of deception started from the first century itself.

And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.

Acts 15:1

In TPM, many of its leaders acknowledge that they have crossed a point of no return and hence continue to be in them. Many of their believers and workers are suffocating because they do not know what to do. They are constantly fed with the lie that “TPM is the best Church”. Therefore they are not even willing to consider any scriptural positions which can help them.They are indoctrinated in such a way that any other thoughts are immediately categorized as devilish. Many of their members constantly are on a guilt trip by their leaders.

An exposition of TPM - The Cult

The Cult

TPM Believers cannot even comprehend the fact that they are members of one of the most deceptive cult in our times. Therefore I thought it would be a good exercise to show them a video by a person who does not even know the existence of TPM. He is explaining the working of a cult in great detail. His Analysis is based on a book by  Dr. Arthur Deikman’s  on cult behavior. The book’s name is “The Wrong Way Home“. Every point he makes is valid for TPM and therefore, without any doubt, TPM is a CULT of the first class.

I sincerely pray that every TPM believer watches it and take it seriously. God Bless you.

 

Conclusion

Dear TPM Believer,

I hope that you have watched the video. Now tell us how would you rate TPM and its devious ways?

I wish that you be honest with yourself. God Bless you.

130 Comments on “An exposition of TPM – The Cult”

  1. “Man is incurably religious (unknown)”

    When Christians take Christianity as religion and become religious instead of becoming righteous, then rationalist are bound to think Christianity as another form of religion. Christianity is however not a religion. “Jesus didn’t come to make bad people good. He came to make dead people live (Ravi Zacharias).” This is essential difference between Christianity and any other religion. Jesus wasn’t avatar or something. His main objective was not to make people follow rules of morality in form of religion (not a will worship). Christianity is not a will worship (c.f. Col 2:23).It is entire change of human will by supernatural influence of God. When the conversion takes place for name sake then it becomes religion and people become religious instead of becoming righteous. This is the problem with TPM. They boast themselves against nominal Christians but are blind to see the difference between religiosity and righteousness. TPM people are thousand miles away from righteousness. They are Pharisees of 21st century in white clothes.

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  2. Here is one definition of a cult. “A cult is a group of people gathered about a specific person or person’s mis-interpretation of the bible.”
    As the ‘Cult Behaviour: An Analysis video’ in the article shows us, in cults there is a strong leader, who enforces his will and mind over the group, using coercive or enticing means to satisfy his ego which strangely enough draws in people who seem to like to be “taken for an easy ride” by getting certain of their needs met by someone else. It is easy to see then that cult members become hopelessly infatuated and depend on that cult leader, giving up a reasoning mind and independence.
    Written accounts by historical authors regarding CPM/TPM state that from its beginning this was an exclusive, secluded, and separated organization. But not much is known about its beginnings. Authors indicate in books that probably around 1923 P. Paul, who hailed originally from Kerala, left the Church Missionary Society in Colombo and started an independent Pentecostal ministry along with the Singhalese college lecturer Alwin de Alwis, the Ceylon Pentecostal Mission. In the first one or two years, at least, they had contacts with a Pentecostal congregation in Colombo (Glad Tidings Hall at Wellawata) that was started by the Danish missionary Anna Lewini and later run by the English missionary Walter Clifford. It is said that Paul and Alwin created a centrally led denomination. Its centralized organization differed substantially from the majority of the strictly congregational south Indian Pentecostal movement and promoted the development of a few special, radical teachings in the subsequent period.
    Little is known about Alwin. Alwis was not married. It is said in books that he converted from Buddhism to Christianity.
    When Sadhu Sundar Singh visited Ceylon in May-June 1918 his mysticism drew people to his meeting. An author reports that his meetings made a deep impression on Alwin de Alwis which shaped his concepts of a radically indigenous ministry later on expressed in CPM. Alwin R. de Alwis and Pastor Paul rejected the use of medicines and medical care; a major tenet was the centrality of divine healing. The centrality and purpose of their teaching was the preparation of the “bride of Christ”, rather than the Great Commission. They espoused an ascetic approach to spirituality, ministers were forbidden to marry, they had to wear white, prophesies and words of knowledge guided teachings. CPM rejected formal theological education for its workers.
    CPM had no bank account. CPM kept no historical documents of its activities. Rules were given by word of mouth and traditions developed on the way.
    Main religious instruction was given through annual conventions where entire CPM believers gathered into one place.
    And CPM insisted a core of believers prepared to be bride of Christ should remain as small group in all countries introduced to CPM.
    This website explains the heretical teachings of TPM. The leaders must repent because God hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. These are very sobering words for everyone aren’t they? Every man/woman can only come to God in repentance and faith in Jesus for true salvation.

    I guess if people cannot think and act for themselves, then yes, TPM can be called a cult.

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    1. Yes people outside know little about Pastor Alwin who was the unmarried founder where as the founder Pastor Paul was married and had three children one of whom Pastor Freddy Paul, against the CPM very rule of leaders should not be married the founder himself was married. Pastor Alwin the spiritual man who knew 16 languages a prophet , a one with healing gift was chased out by one of the Pastors there brutally. This is my personal opinion and not to offend any one

      1. Sister,
        All throughout we have been hearing the version opposed to Alwin. Do you have any details which can show Alwin’s side of the argument?

        1. Yes I know I have heard it from a person of God who was in Ceylon for a time . When Alwin Pastor brought disciplinary actions on the Founders son he was chased out by him. Pastor Alwin used to pray to God ,because he was in such a respectful place there and he must be humbled to enter the kingdom of heaven according to his request to the Lord he was humbled and humiliated by all from the then CPM people . The person of God who told me all this was there at that time in Ceylon CPM,got a vision regarding the split there ,in a vision the person of God saw a big screen and torn apart ,,on was Rehoboam and other Jeroboam it was written in it. That happened during that time. Even after Pastor Alwin was sent out from CPM he continued his ministries till his death for sometime in chennai Tamil Nadu and else where.

        2. Yes I have heard it from a person of God who was ministering there at that time in Ceylon CPM.I think it must be around late 1950 – to 1960 s . Pastor Alwin wanted to take disciplinary action on the founders son so he was chased out . Pastor Alwin a well educated scholar was in a respectful position there so his one request to the Lord Jesus was that he should be humbled to enter the kingdom of heaven , his request was granted he was humiliated by the very own children whom he raised in Christ . The person of God who told me this was in CPM at that time and the Lord revealed in a vision of the happenings there in a church service time in the vision was a big screen torn apart split in the middle on one side was written Rehoboam and other side Jeroboam .The vision came of pass . Even after being chased out Pastor Alwin continued his ministry faithfully for sometime in chennai Tamil Nadu and else where
          Note : This person of God was the one through whom Late chief Pastor Stephen and his mother accepted Christ and was doing ministry with before joining CPM . But people don’t have the gratitude and forget that .

        3. You mentioned Rehoboam and Jeroboam. Can I know who are the others who went out with Alwyn? If it was kind of Jeroboam and Rehoboam, It should that Alwyn’s group should be 20% of TPM now.

        4. I told what I heard ,the vision was from Jesus, the person of God who saw the vision lead a wonderful ministry of Jesus ,and is in his kingdom now , therefore I cannot ask of the details of who went away with Pastor Alwin . The person of God left CPM during that time ..This person of God started a church And lead many to Christ s love one of whom was late chief Pastor Stephen and his mother who were non Christians before .They we’re converted to Christianity by this person of God and also were staying in that church and doing ministry.Later Late Pastor Stephen joined T PM .
          I don’t offend anyone here what I heard I have posted . Rules of organisations change but the Bible and the trinity does not change . People worship Pastors like Christ , only Christ died for all . For everyone who is disciple of Jesus, he has heaven and Zion ,.only unmarried and Pastors will go to Zion is a lie and no where in the Bible . Here I want to register only one thing follow the word of God the Bible .

      2. @ Sister Deborah
        Many people have wrong information about pastor Alwyn. My uncle used to tell me that he had great revelation from word of God. Had he continued in this mission he would have made this church reach new heights. But unfortunately he did not stay for much time inside.

        1. Pastor Alwyn could not have stayed ,he was literally sent out .The door in chennai royapuram faith home was shut on his face when he came from Ceylon to visit them here. His elder sister was also a powerful minister of God during the 1950 s she used to give baptism to ladies and lead the ladies. Pastor Alwyn and his sister raised Pastor Paul’s children after Pastor Paul’s wife( CPM founders wife ) death. But those children are the ones who chased him out . As I said before he had many gifts of the Holy Spirit . Anyway the Lord Jesus will surely repay for what they did to his faithful servant .

        2. How would you account for many of Alwin’s sexual adventures as is believed to be the reason for his excommunication? His Driver and helper Sam Alangaramony attests to that in his testimony. Please click here to read his testimony.

      3. Pastor Alwyn took disciplinary action against pastor Paul’s children?? Can you elaborate ? What was that disciplinary action, that made tpm people send Alwin out?

        1. Brother I do not want to mention names in public . I just wanted to tell the truth I heard from my ancestors . Let the Lord Jesus reply nothing is hidden from his eyes . But in TPM there are good servants of God and what they do is highly appreciated. Let us all follow our Leader Jesus Christ and leave all these things .

  3. I am sure based on what you do, exposing the lies (which you think is your duty which God has entrusted to you all)… I believe you all will be in heaven and not be rotting in Hell.

    1. Dear TPM brainwashed slave,
      Sorry for addressing you like this. Exposing the shameful things in deceptive organization like TPM is not only our work…Every disciple is expected to do that. I know you have a museum peice called bible in your posession. Please be bold enough to read it. If you get a chance please read Ephesians 5:11-13
      11 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. 13 But everything exposed by the light becomes visible—and everything that is illuminated becomes a light.

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      1. Even judas found fault with jesus for not selling the ointment for 300 shekels. He did not have the prophecy of jesus getting arrested by the Jerusalem temple police. He didn’t even know that jesus would be handed over to the Roman government. Likewise those who entered into the tpm without any prophecy serve the devil’s purpose of handing over the church to the Indian government. Already the Indian government changed the name of ceyon pentecostal mission into the pentecostal mission. Now it wants to change it into pentecostal yogi mission and you serve their purpose

    2. RG, I used to be like you defending every word of tpm tooth and nail. I realized I was worshipping a man made denomination instead of the one true God. Then I read scripture with an open mind and God showed me tpm for what it is. It is a place filled with pride and elitism. They boast about having “special revelations” when in fact these revelations are from the pit of hell cooked up by a “great Saint” aka Alwin around 50 years ago and tpm has managed to dupe everyone all these years. I sincerely wish you too open your eyes and read scripture without a denominational bias to see tpm for what it truly is, a place filled with heresies and false doctrines.

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  4. Dear Admin & Namesake,

    When you worship man and its denominations you are bound to be demoralized after a period of time. Irrespective of which church or branch or minister conducts, if you worship the living God you will never have any discouragement.

    Learn to worship God in the midst of holy or unholy people. Thats not your lookout.

    I dont think and believe God created you to expose others but to trust and grow in him.

    I dont think Jesus shed his precious blood for you to expose others, but to sanctify yourselves and draw closer to God.

    1. Lol you are so funny ..Who cares what you or me thinks?. Irrespective of what we think, the scripture commands us to expose such deceptive and dark things. Did you read Ephesians 5:11-13 to obey or just to THINK your own idea?

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    2. Dear RG, do you even know tpm teaches Jesus blood is not sufficient? They have usurped Jesus in every possible opportunity. Unlike you, we care a lot about people who are stuck in this man made organization. We don’t want them to perish worshipping men instead of God. We don’t want them to perish in their elitism and pride and think they are saving themselves because go their works.

    3. Brother RG,

      If you say that you are worshipping GOD…You dont seem to speak for GOD in your responses…

      You contradict your very own beliefs…

      You said //I dont think and believe God created you to expose others but to trust and grow in him.//

      What are you doing here with all your comments???

      Are you not trying to expose others(Admin or Namesake) rather to Trust or grown in GOD…???

      You said again
      //I dont think Jesus shed his precious blood for you to expose others, but to sanctify yourselves and draw closer to God.//

      Did Jesus shed his blood according to comment to expose others (Admin & Namesake)???

      Why did not you spend time to sanctify and draw closer to God rather wasting your time according to your very own beliefs???

      Your foolishness is proven in your very messages…
      Your vain words prove your lack of substance…

    4. Brother RG,

      What a Wonderful revelation!!!!

      //When you worship man and its denominations you are bound to be demoralized after a period of time. //

      Your very own revelation prove pastor.sunny’s immoral behaviour due to man made doctrines and men worshipping…

  5. I have no idea from which college you have passed out. What is taught in each college is different and its upto to the student to understand what he needs and then learn that to build up his professional career. so always with spiritual life. Listen use what you need to build up your spiritual life.

    I am cent percent sure by these these things you will never inherit the kingdom of God nor will God say “Well Done”.

    1. Good thing you’re not God then.

      You seem to be under the impression that there are many ways (or colleges) to salvation. That is so not what scripture says. It was to the early apostles that Jesus promised the Holy Spirit will lead to ALL TRUTH. JUDE later says we must contend for the faith ONCE delivered to the early apostles. You can’t just pop up in the 21st century and claim to have a new found “college” by which you are to led to salvation. There is only one way and one truth.

      So, scripture says we are saved by grace through faith and not by our works. TPM on the other hand blatantly contradicts the gospel and says we are saved partly by our works(TPM’s 7 steps of salvation). Scripture says Jesus alone is the high priest and only means by which we are called righteous and justified. TPM on the other hand contradicts scripture and claims we are made righteous because TPM pastors pour out their lives. If you can’t see how TPM distorts the gospel and preaches a totally different gospel (which Paul says you will be accursed if you do) then only God can help you.

      Remember, truth isn’t subjective. His name is Jesus.

      As for building our spiritual lives, that’s impossible to do without getting he gospel right first. This site stands for exposing the false doctrines and practices of tpm. If you are really convinced what you believe is scriptural, please choose and article and refute it using scripture. The floor is yours.

    2. Bro RG
      Did the college from which you graduated, taught you the meaning of

      Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

      Or did they taught you…”shhh….. don’t speak against the anointed ones…”

      Did they taught you that there is a verse in your Bible which says,

      I Tim 5:20
      Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

      Or did they taught you to hypocritically humiliate member believers by punishing them before all church, when they take medicine or when their family members marry outside tpm, and cover up the evil acts of white clad saints. And then preach seven steps if salvation. Wow! What a great way to condemn others sin when it is not a sin, and cover up white clad saints by saying “shh… don’t speak against anointed.. look at your own life..” And then by hiding innumerable evil deeds done behind closed door preach the gospel of sinnless perfection…

      Did your college taught you the balance of when to forgive fellow believers and when to rebuke, because both instructions are found in Bible. It would be foolish to neglect one and stick hypocritically to other. Forgive culprits if they are repentant. Love them and cover their mistakes if they are truly lamenting for what they do… but if someone shows audacity to say Zion Zion and holiness holiness and do abominable acts behind curtain, then expose their works of darkness so to save others from their masked image…

      We are all really sorry to make public show of Pas. Sunny’s deeds, if he is truly repentant and rejects the false gospel of salvation by works of human righteousness, that he wasn’t able to prove it by his life… However if he continues with his perversion of Gospel of sinnless perfection then I think we need more such stories to show the real ability of Law which TPM adheres to in the name of salvation.

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  6. Wow… What revelations…Dear Bro Nath and Richard….

    Praise God……

    So in the church that you go nothing happens, all are so pious and holy that they will just get into heaven….

    Great…. I should be joining your church….

    Please let me know the name of the church that you attend and I believe that you will be graceful enough to save me.

    1. Dear Readers….

      You could notice something really interesting in the comments of all who try to defend Tpm…They(includes Vik,RG,etc,.) accept and know that their church and their pastors is with shortcomings and blemishes like other churches…
      But at the other Hand they claim the exclusivity of Tpm saying Tpm church is better than other churches…Tpm pastors are true Saints compare to other denominational ministers…
      Absolutely contradicting beliefs…

      Finally they(Tpm defenders) will come to point of asking the PERFECT Church to be shown to them…

      The Misery here….Only Church in the Whole world who claims to be the PERFECT Church with perfected saints is Tpm…No other churches in the world Dare to claim such things (includes the early Church of Apostles of JESUS)…

      Look How the eyes are blinded like Jesus said in Mark 4:12
      they may be ever seeing but never perceiving, and ever hearing but never understanding; otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!

      They (Tpm defenders) are defending the shortcomings of the very pastors who claiming to overcomers of self by outward actions by abandoning their parents,job and colourful clothing …

      How pathetically people are deceived by outward appearance like Pharisees about such people Our Saviour JESUS pointed out

      Luke 11:39
      Now then, you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside you are full of greed and wickedness. 40You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also? 41But now as for what is inside you—be generous to the poor, and everything will be clean for you.

      42“Woe to you Pharisees, because you give God a tenth of your mint, rue and all other kinds of garden herbs, but you neglect justice and the love of God. You should have practiced the latter without leaving the former undone.

      43“Woe to you Pharisees, because you love the most important seats in the synagogues and respectful greetings in the marketplaces.

      44“Woe to you, because you are like unmarked graves, which people walk over without knowing it.”

      45One of the experts in the law answered him, “Teacher, when you say these things, you insult us also.”

      46Jesus replied, “And you experts in the law, woe to you, because you load people down with burdens they can hardly carry, and you yourselves will not lift one finger to help them.

      Beware of the teachers of the law. They like to walk around in flowing robes and love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and have the most important seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. They devour widows’ houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. These men will be punished most severely.”

      Finally JESUS said Pharisees had prevented people from receiving the knowledge of salvation…

      Luke 11:52
      Woe to you experts in the law, because you have taken away the key to knowledge. You yourselves have not entered, and you have hindered those who were entering.”

      People (Admin & others) are exactly doing the what Jesus did do …by exposing Pharisees and teachers of law..they bringing Truth of GOD to its rightful place since it is overturned by man made doctrines….
      God will save them as well according to the Riches of His great Mercy and Grace…
      What is impossible with man is possible with God…

      For God alone will be victorious and satan will be put to shame in the end…

    2. That’s a lot of assumption there, RG. I still attend TPM. I have attended tpm all my life. Why else do you think we care so much about the false doctrines and practices of this church? What this site does is not just random ranting. We are people within the church who are exposing the false doctrines so that others may realize the errors.

      1. Thats the spirit of betraying, which is very bad.

        Either you leave the church you attend and then crib or be in the church but dont crib.

        Its like a person complaining about his wife then why did he marry her in the first place

        1. Brother RG,
          Haven’t you read the Gospels which is filled with Jesus’s criticism and rebuke of their hypocritical life and overturning of God’s Laws by the Jewish clergy while he was still in the Jewish religion ?
          Don’t you know that Isaiah,Jeremiah, zachariah, Malachi, Elijah and all other prophets till John the Baptist did the same with Jewish Clergy?

          So according to you they were Betrayers …Wow..Keep going friend..You have a great future in TPM along with your worker Brother.

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        2. Dear Admin,

          You have drunk your mother’s milk and reveal your name and lets have duel.

          I dont care whether my Brother or sister in the ministry.

          If I have speak my mind I dont care whether its my father or mother. I will speak the truth because its substantiated by truth.

          I challenge you that once you reveal yourself, I will come back to you on the those hidden truths in you families and then you can comment.

          Hiding under the cloak of Admin and monikier names you cannot reveal truths but ONLY lies.

        3. Dear Brother RG,
          I don’t have to prove that I have drunk my mother’s milk to you. Especially to someone who is a blind brainwashed TPM Slave who does not care for the scriptures but has lots of empty words.
          Just to prove it. Check below
          Following is your comment


          If I have speak my mind I dont care whether its my father or mother. I will speak the truth because its substantiated by truth.


          I have already asked you why you have a problem following Ephesians 5:11-13. Is that a substandard scripture because it goes against your favourite Organization and your younger brother? Dont you consider the Book of Ephesians as Scriptures (Truth)?
          I am expecting a reply from you on this.

          Why are you so inquisitive about the Admin’s identity whereas you never asked this regarding the authors of TPM Publications? First get your organization comply with your demands before coming and asking it with the admin of this site.

          BTW. In case you would like to have a debate with us, we can try to oblige you for Scriptural debate with live telecast in youtube with the Senior Pastors of TPM (Not the ones like you). We would like to know if you are willing for that. If so please do ahead and let us know.

        4. BY your words you have proved that like Satan you like to work behind a cloak. Great…

          I dont need to worry about who are the authors of TPM publications bcoz I dont publish it.

          Secondly its not my organization….Lol…. not sure who told you its my organization…

          Thirdly if you claim that my younger brother is in the ministry how does it affect me. He is not paying for my sustenance.

          Eph 5:11-13 — Yourselves by using the cloak of admin is fulfilling the unfruitful works of darkness…. May I know why……

        5. Brother,
          The cloak is a uniform worn by TPM Ministers…Not me. In fact, we abhor that kind of special dressing.
          If you do not need to worry about the authors of TPM Publications, even stop worrying about the authors of this site.
          If TPM is not your organization, why do you feed them with your Tithe and be ready to do all their commands?
          Oh yes your younger brother is not paying for your sustenance as he is part of a parasite religious system who does not work for their sustenance but covet and manipulate others for their greedy needs.

          This site is bringing out the secret works of darkness of TPM…Feeling ashamed eh? So there also you do not have a reply…

        6. BY your very words you have proved that you want to expose others but dont want others to expose your works from darkness.

          Excellent ….. Wonderful……

          So you are a member of another parasite system which wants to expose the works of others but wants to hide its own works done in darkness….

          I dont think TPM is the only church in the world having the secrets works of darkness. As one your colleagues and co-members said then you should be exposing the churches also….. But you dont have the guts and the courage for that …unlike TPM you all would milling the flour.

        7. Dear Richie,
          TPM is a very dangerous religious System. This system has killed scores of people in their own ministry. Why do you think they will spare us after we expose them? We are exposing TPM because we had been ignorantly feeding this monster for so long. When we read our Bibles without the TPM Lens, we came to know that we had made a mistake. So now, its time to correct the mistake. So yes the operation for cancer(TPM Doctrines) is inevitable and painful. Some of your comments are just a result of the pain you are undergoing. Take it in a positive way and God will help you.

        8. If Martin Luther would have taken your advice everyone would still be listening to the Latin Vulgate and worshipping Mary.

          The tragic thing is that in TPM it’s as if the reformation never happened 500 years ago. TPM believers still blindly believe someone else’s interpretation of scripture without verifying themselves and they’ve replaced Mary with their “consecrated saints” whose praise they sing in many of their songs.

          Leaving is an easy thing to do. I don’t want people who are enslaved inside to perish. A denomination isn’t like a “wife”. Denominations are man made. You really need to read scripture and see what scripture says about Christ’s church. Scripturally there is only one church and I’m part of that one church that Jesus is building. I’m not “cribbing” at all. I’m safe being part of Christ’s body. All my words criticizing tpm are directed at those who twist scripture to benefit themselves.

    3. Bro RG,
      Holiness of your tpm saints is quite evident. Murder, rape homosexuality, jealousy, strife, tax evasion, breaking commandments of God by forming an herirarchial organisation (Matt 23:8), and innumerable other traits of holiness. Your deeds match your teaching even your white clothes.

      Hope u take the floor offered by richard and begin some meaningful discussion by proving seven steps of salvation from scripture.

      Enlighten us in the light of Scriptures how man made rules will make you holier than what Christ blood did for you. It seems your organisation rules are more effective than blood of Christ. Maybe intercessory prayer of your saints at 4am and 10pm and is more effective than mediation work of Jesus.

      1. Brother Nath, its actually not an intercessory prayer at 4am and 10pm. They just call the name of all believers in jet speed and chant “praise the lord, praise the lord”. Being overseas, I’ve had the opportunity to stay and see these inside “faith homes”.

    4. Brother RG,

      How daringly you bring the Name of God in the sense of Mockery….

      It is a blasphemy brother…Do you think you can use God’s Name casually for your advantage…

      //Wow… What revelations…Dear Bro Nath and Richard….

      Praise God……

      So in the church that you go nothing happens, all are so pious and holy that they will just get into heaven….//

      Why did you Praise God ??? Can you tell me ??

      Dont you know it is the command of GOD not to bring his Name in vain…

      Exodus 20:7 You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God…

      Your words prove that you are not honouring God …
      May your eyes be opened to see that you are displeasing to God by showing your Zeal to man and Church not to God…

      Everymen(includes Tpm,others churches,you and me) is a liar God alone is Truth…

      No man is Good but God alone is Good…

      God is building His Church with His Son Jesus as Head and Cheif corner stone…and everyone of us as living stones and His body to be a PERFECT Church…The Name of the Church – “JESUS CHRIST”…whoever BELIEVES in JESUS and follows Him is inducted in to this Church irrespective of caste,creed,denominations…

      May God hold this sin of blasphemy not against you according to His great mercies and Grace…

    5. Dear brother RG, no other church claims they are the most holy people and no other church boasts that God has given the contract of preparing the bride for Jesus to them. Everyone are trying to lead a God- pleasing life.

  7. Dear RG,
    If you say that you are saved, then you know that God has not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.
    And you will know that we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

    Everyone knows and expects such things of Christians.

    For [even] when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another, (Rom 2:14-15). They will excuse or accuse one another.

    But for the people of God, we must ask with Apostle Paul, shall we continue in doing sin? God forbid, is the straight answer. Romans 6:1-2.

    Do you know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?
    Don’t be deceived, the Bible says, neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind …shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9.

    Jesus says to one and to all, unless you repent, you will all likewise perish. Luke 13:3, 5. God doesn’t excuse sin. He has provided a lamb to take away the sin of the world. Read of the punishment worthy of him who treads underfoot the Son of God, counts the blood of the covenant unholy, and despises the Spirit of grace, Hebrews 10:29.

    Do you not know that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? 1 Cor 5:6

    This scripture is directive and truthful – Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners.

    RG, if you love God supremely and are thankful for your own personal salvation, you will seek to win the lost to Christ and to offer the word of life to sinking souls around you. It’s not always easy but God will help you.

    1. RG, yes believer in Christ is truly saved… You can tell it by the spiritual maturity in his/her words. Not like TPM die-hards like you who have distorted understanding of salvation. One of your TPM pastors just few weeks ago said during a sermon that 95% of TPM-ites don’t know what salvation is, most of them think that salvation is joining this church. I really commend him for his boldness and sincerity in accepting that fact ( its a miracle…as most of your “consecrated saints” are Pharisees of first degree). Sadly, that’s the real state of this cult…so don’t say with sarcasm hope you’re saved.

  8. Dear Admin,

    If you know who I am, then please be aware that I am not bound by TPM. I attend TPM to worship God. I know whats going in the other churches. There are other issues which they have.

    You must have not involved to please someone and you have burnt your fingers.

    So now you want to take revenge. You dont get anything by exposing TPM. It’s there in the catholic church and they are paying millions of dollars every year to hush it up.

    Why lose your peace of mind?

    Advise your colleagues and teams and stop it.

    I also know many more things but I dont get involved. I just leave it as it is and move forward in my life which ensure that I have peace of mind.

    Hope that it stops…

    1. Dear Richie,
      You said
      //Why lose your peace of mind?//
      We have not lost any peace of mind. Rather the Prince of Peace is leading us. We are here not to stop till our Lord commands us to do as he was the one who commanded us to start.
      God Bless you.

    2. // You don’t get anything by exposing TPM….. I know many more things but i dont get involved……..//

      Dear RG
      You amaze us with your sage like wisdom.
      You want all of us to behave blind and deaf like you when wolves mask themselves in sheep’s clothing and devour them. You want us all to play blind to devil around us and let him destroy innocent lives and behave as if we have seen nothing. You are asking us to stop exposing TPM doctrines, just because every bit of it is in Catholic church? It is like saying ” why have you come to trouble us… there are others also..” and then you go berserk and begin fighting with every one here… I don’t think anybody here has lost his temper.. Its you alone who seem to be loosing peace of mind..

      If you really want to refute scripturally then you have been offered this offer more than once. But you babble in vain.

      I humbly request you to begin scriptural refutation. In-fact before refuting any doctrines kindly prove your claim from Bible that one should play deaf and dumb to what is going around us. If you can prove that then we will stop.

      We have been always welcoming a healthy discussion. So stop fighting verbally with individuals and begin revealing what you find true things in TPM. And we will be happy to discuss our views in the same. Else its your choice. Keep babbling and loose your peace of mind..

      1. Dear Nath,

        Where in the bible its written that you need to expose one group and not expose the other group?

        Please provide the bible reference.

        In one reply…. Mathews says I am self centered… if so than all of you are self centered and exposing only TPM when other churches are also doing the same….

        So its only an ego issue and nothing else.

        1. Bro RG,
          When did we say we exclusively want to preach against false teachings of Tpm alone? You only know this website part of us. How can you claim that we are not trying to battle other groups also? We are endeavouring and God willing God will do what God wants.

          So stop being self centred and begin defending tpm biblically if you will to defend TPM’s teachings rather than spewing vanity.

        2. Dear Nath,

          Please read the replies by the Admin and your colleagues. They have been vehemently telling that they want to expose TPM only and now you are saying something different.

          Please be in sync, looks like you are out of sync.

          This reveals the hollowness of your activities.

        3. Brother it seems you have an issue with understanding what has been said. As far as I know, none of us have said we are “Exposing TPM ONLY“. But yes this site(fromtpm.com) is for the Purpose of Exposing TPM Only. We have other ministries which have different missions.However, that is not in the scope of this site. Now, do you understand the difference?

        4. Please pray for my understanding to be improved.

          Appreciate if you could provide the other ministries that expose other churches so that I can enlighten my understanding….

        5. Dear Nath,

          When I have peace overflowing like a river why do I need only little peace, if you could expound that.

        6. Oh Yes! We can see how much peace is overflowing from you! I have seen none egoistic like you before. Everyone is humbly asking you to start a scriptural discussion if you have objection with our writings, and you are digressing on to talks which have no value! Why do you want to respond to each and every response. Show us that you are not a child who wants to fight on meaningless things.

        7. Wow… you are like God that you can see from far….

          The very fact that your articles doesnt gel in with the teachings of Jesus is evident… so what scriptural discussion you want to have….

        8. Which article doesn’t gel in with the teachings of Jesus? Be specific and quote the verse from scripture which you think the articles in here contradicts.

        9. Even a child can tell by RGs responses whether he has any peace at all. He’s very restless indeed! And brothers, sadly he’s got a poor attitude and a very low spiritual standard just like the “saints” he’s defending, so let’s not waste our time on him. As someone pointed out earlier, let him keep smelling the stink of this cult.

        10. Wow Daniel….. what a revelation….. straight from the bottomless pit……

          If I am smelling the stink….. you all are tasting the stink being in TPM and trying to reveal that which actually shows that you all are really stinking …. God Help You…..

  9. Dear Admin,

    How did the Lord command you to start this?

    Appreciate if you could provide details which could be an eye opener for me.

    As to why he instructed only you and not people like us? Are we in a different category?

  10. wow bhai…. wonderful calling to expose TPM but not a calling to lead a life pleasing unto God…

    Arre Bhai…… Kya Milenga…..

    1. Dear Brother
      In all love, I exhort to read the scriptures and live according to it and not under the delusion of TPM you are under.
      Leading a life pleasing God Includes Exposing evil works of darkness like TPM. It includes controlling of your mouth with a bridle, OK? Don’t display the fruit of your spirit by talking unwholesome words like you did.
      Let those who love the LORD hate evil…… Psalm 97:10

      1. Hello RG,
        See from these words of Admin spoken here, that the LOVE OF GOD has been poured into the lives of fromtpm online ministry, and it is the GOD of love, mercy and truth who has raised up and has caused this work to begin, and, thus this work of GOD is empowered by the Holy Spirit, because this ministry loves Jesus and abides in HIM, the WORD OF GOD.

        Oh, how the world needs Jesus!
        How TPM, and all its branches across the world, needs Jesus and his WORD OF LIFE.

        May Almighty God bless these workers for HIS GLORY alone, more and more each passing day, until they meet Jesus in the air or meet him face to face in heaven.
        With all my heart I believe that they will hear the words of Jesus, “Well done, good and faithful servant.”

        Now, dear RG, this is what Jesus says to the church type of Philadelphia.

        “I know thy works: behold I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.” Rev 3:8.

        “Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.” Rev 3:10.

        How will you escape RG if you do not keep Jesus’ words, and if you continue to deny his name, by denying Jesus’ full sufficiency by his death on the cross and by his resurrection for all of a believer’s salvation?

        Jesus says: “Behold I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that NO MAN take thy crown.” Rev 3:11.

        Who can take away YOUR crown, RG?

        A ‘man’ can.

        Thus it behooves you to take heed that it is God who gives the doctrines, not a man.

        And rest assured that, the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. 2 Tim 2:19

        RG, do you love Jesus?
        Run away to your Saviour Jesus from evil.
        Have nothing to do with the works of unrighteousness but rather reprove them.
        Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? Or what fellowship does light have with darkness? Eph 5:11 and 2 Cor 6:14.

        Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing: and I will receive you. And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. 2 Cor 6:17-18.

        Even if you have a little strength, (God will give you more), will you trust in him above all others, and walk with Jesus in the true light of his holy word, even as the darkness tries to hide him as Name above all Names, even in TPM?

        This is part of the believers’ calling.

  11. Dear Admin,

    Its your misunderstanding that I am under the delusion of TPM.

    Exposing the works of darkness is not limited to TPM only but to every thing under the sky.

    The very fact that you are limiting it to TPM show that your biased and has some motive like revenge which needs to take.

    You talk about fruits of the spirit… where’s it? Gentleness, meekness, longsuffering…. I didnt see that from any of you… but you all were spewing hatred, jealousy etc which are the characters of the carnal men not spiritual men.

    1. Brother,
      It is a character of Delusion that others can see it and the individual cannot see. All of us can see it in your responses.
      Agree to expose the works of Darkness is not limited to TPM only. However, this site is for the purpose of exposing TPM. We have other ministries which we do and is beyond the scope of this site.

      You are accusing us of Hatred, Jelousy…which part of our articles have that Brother? Aren’t we in all longsuffering answering your questions which we should not have answered? Do you expect TPM allow questioning in their premises? We are graciously putting up with all your abusing words like drinking Mother’s milk and you do not see any fruit of the Spirit in us? You have to be blind to be not seeing it.

    2. RG, how is gentleness, meekness and longsuffering to be exhibited in the midst of heresy and false doctrines? Did Paul ask to exhibit these traits when warning against false teachers who would come after he was gone? These fruits are to be exhibited when the flesh is persecuted, not when a supposed “best church on earth” is destroying souls by leading them astray.

      “Be on guard for yourselves and for all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. I know that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock; and from among your own selves men will arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after them.” (Acts 20:28-30)

      ““For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.” (2 Tim 4:3-4)

      “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let them be under God’s curse!” (Gal 1:8)

      “For if someone comes to you and preaches a Jesus other than the Jesus we preached, or if you receive a different spirit from the Spirit you received, or a different gospel from the one you accepted, you put up with it easily enough!” (2 Cor 11:4)

      The New Testament unequivocally says we must not put up with a different teaching than the one preached by the early apostles. What we are doing is merely following those words in scripture.

  12. Wow…. self-justification…. You know whose nature is that…

    Since you were asking me to talk Biblical.

    Can children of believers fall in love and get married in the light of the scriptures…

    1. OK Good to know that even though you do not desist from mocking, you would like to talk about scriptures.

      According to the Bible, the category Believer is a huge set. It even includes demons and Satan (James 2:19). TPM’s Theology falters right from the word GO. They call the people who feed them with tithes as Believers and they address themselves as Apostles and Saints. What a brainwash?

      So would you want to rephrase the question?
      Once you rephrase the question we can proceed.

      1. Wow… what a revelation …..

        If a person who leads a life according to the bible …. can he/she fall in love and get married in the light of the scriptures…

    2. RG, Scripture speaks against sexual immorality. Sexual immorality is sinful, falling in love isn’t. If you say there is no way a couple can fall in love without sinning, I’ll say that comes from a place of spiritual immaturity and not knowing what sin according to God is. Jacob fell in love and married Rachel(Genesis 29:18), King David fell in love and married Michal (1 Samuel 18:20). God never spoke against that in the entire bible.

      Moreover, over half the marriages that are taking place in TPM these days are “love marriages” (whatever that means) anyway. So if you say that’s wrong, you are condemning TPM as well.

      1. Dear Richard,

        You havent read the bible…. if you are saying that its not SIN… all those who committed that act…. were punished by God in one way or the other… Please brush up your so called Theology

        1. RG, I see no scripture references from your side. Please quote scripture that says God punished them because of it. What you did right there is just repeated ready-made answers from a TPM pulpit. So please,quote some scripture to make your point. Otherwise it’s just meaningless. Since you are yet to quote a SINGLE verse, something tells me it is not me who needs to brush up on anything.

        2. Brother Richie,
          You seem to be quite ruffled and has lost the balance in response. God created man and woman to fall in love. They were expected to be ONE. This happened right from the creation when God saw that It’s NOT GOOD FOR MAN TO BE ALONE. Therefore He made EVE.

          Now note how Adam Falls in Love with Eve.
          The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.” Gen 2:23

        3. As far as I know, In Old Testament God commanded Israelites to not to marry pagan women so that they may not lead them to worship other gods. No rule of bible is without any reason. Loving someone is not sin. But one must be careful that such a relationship does not threaten your relationship with God. So Bro RG dont say rule rule! Understand the logic behind rules. Pharisees said Sabbath Sabbath but did not understand what Sabbath means. So don’t be Pharisee! As Richard said Sexual immorality is wrong, not love! One must be careful about his relationship with God before marrying and falling in love with unbeliever. It is better not to fall in love with such to avoid difficulties. So the essence of all things is your relationship with God!

  13. Love is after the marriage …. can they fall in love before marriage?…. Please refer to the question and understand the question and you all need to answer… U all seem to be failing…. the word of God is very clear and looks like you havent read the word of God properly.. but only sitting in the meetings to find fault during messages, worship , etc… God Save You….. Bye

    1. Lol..Running away when confronted because you do not have any scriptures to back you. When We have given you at least 2 scripture to back our position.

      Do you think we should remove the entire book of Song of Solomon from the Bible as that is portraying the love between a couple before marriage?

      Isn’t earthly marriage supposed to be a shadow of the eternal marriage between Jesus and the Bride?
      According to you, Jesus should then not be loving his bride till the heavenly wedding.
      ….Christ LOVED the church and gave himself up for her Ephesians 5:25

      I feel so sorry for you brother.

    2. RG, maybe my eyesight is failing on me. I still don’t see any scripture from your side. At least now realise that you(and TPM) aren’t standing on God-breathed scripture but rules, regulations and doctrines that are conjured up in the minds of TPM pastors. You can write a 1000 page essay saying a particular thing is sinful. But without a single scripture reference, be sure it’s worthless, much like the 100s of rules made up the Pharisees of the 1st century and Jesus spoke against them.

      It is the religious spirit (like in Jesus’ days) that wants to exceed what’s written in scripture thinking that’ll make them more holy. My advise to you – read scripture with an unbiased mind and discard everything that is against scripture. God bless.

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    3. TPM does not believe in love or in the correct institution of marriage.

      To them- Love is sinful and marriage is defiling, so that is why they promote false doctrines that glorify loveless marriages or marital relationships only for making babies.

      RC promoted that for way too long, so did Islam.

      The Bible’s understanding of Scriptures is very different from yours, RG- for when love and lust are mixed together, you have every reason to start blaming love for all vices.

      In fact the opposite is correct- marrying just to release your frustration leads to marital discord. No wonder people become violent and engage in domestic abuse, because lust can never give them what true love can.

      Love is a wonderful emotion- only take care to submit it to the Lord that he may sanctify it…
      TPM teaches that love within marriage is shameful and the couple have to sanctify themselves by prayers for forgiveness, from time to time…. lest they should become like Sodom and its sister town.
      Lovelessness is a sign of rebellion to God’s signature in man’s creation.

      Its in the devil’s grand scheme to shame natural love (for the opposite sex) so much that perfectly normal people end up becoming queer and curious.

      1. I so much agree with Denzel Joy. Having an attraction towards opposite sex is so much human and if you don’t have that, then something must be wrong. But TPM propogates that you should not look at a boy or a girl. And I can clearly demarcate the difference between the boys I’ve met in my college and the ones I saw in church. The boys in college were friendly and open whereas the boys in TPM have engaged in abusing a girl, name calling, finding phone numbers to call . I’m telling this as I’ve personally experienced. The ultimate is in Youth camps, When a song called “In moments like this I’ll sing out a song ” was played, and last line says “I love you lord, I love you”- A bunch of guys raised placards “I love you” towards girls which was clearly like desperate teenagers. And I also came to know that these guys peep into women’s bathroom in these camps and also watch pornography

  14. Good…RG has left without quoting a single verse from the Bible. Babbled enough and even went as low as a person could talk (about mothers milk). We can see clearly who has failed very miserably!

    1. Dear Daniel,

      I still stand by what I said.. You need guts… Which you dont have, as I read the comments of one your colleagues afraid that you might be put out of the church. Hahahahaha…..

      Admin addressed me by my name known to very few… so I can make an informed guess as to who the admin is.

    2. Is this true that RG mocked the group with reference to ‘mother’s milk’? I am just reading a volley of replies here.
      Shame on him.
      Btw, is he really a christian whose brother is a worker, or he is a paid troll by TPM?
      Does anyone know this person?

      1. Shame is on you guys… Being in TPM criticizing…..

        You will learn when your children do that to you and by that time it will be too late…

        If you had guts you would have identified yourselves instead of using moniker names…

        Hiding behind a cloak of darkness … you claim to be Christians…..

        1. Sorry, Richie…Shall we confess this sin to the Pastor in the sanctification meeting so that he does not pull the rug under our feet on our way to New Jerusalem?

        2. Dear Admin (Ashamed that you are not revealing your name)

          Looks like you were not the correct way of confessing your sins.

          You dont confess your sins to any Pastor but to God. Please do so that you can escape the terrible judgement.

          Luke 8:17 – When these secrets of your mis-deeds are revealed, not only but your family also will be affected and put to shame. Why? and then regret.

          If you are sensible enough provide your name as you have been addressing me by my name.

          I believe you all are from respectable families, if so, you need to reveal your names so that we start addressing by names otherwise it proves that you are guys from the street.

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        3. Dear Richie
          Is not this site revealing the hidden secrets of TPM? So is not Luke 8:17 applicable to TPM now in this case?
          As far as the identity of Admin is concerned, as promised in many earlier posts, it will be revealed. But It will not be revealed prematurely. So do not get any more confused. We are not purposely hiding our names for nothing. But this is a lesson to TPM Pastors who Hide the author names of their publication.

          If Sins are not supposed to be confessed to the Pastor, why did Alwin start such a practice and it continued with others? I know now it is in the diluted form of a wishy-washy testimony. But in originality TPM Insisted on Specifics of the sin from each individual to be disclosed to the concerned pastor. Please ask some oldies of the Church, you will know.

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        4. Shame is on you Richie that you have not learned yet even after your brother was murdered by TPM’s Unbiblical Divine Healing Doctrine. Truly Brainwashed.

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        5. Shame on you admin,

          workers of dark….. The very fact that you are working without revealing yourselves shows that you are bound by the powers of darkness and only bastards would do that…

          Trust in God and be liberated from the bindings of the devil and be called as the SONS of GOD.

          I shall pray for you all to be liberated…. and called as SONS of God

        6. Brother Richie,
          The choice of words used by you are not going to hurt us but please remember that there are many people in Mumbai, Pune and Middle East seeing this site. They know your family well and such words would be an insult to your parents who brought you up. So please do not put them down.
          Regards
          Admin

        7. Dear Admin,

          What about your sibling in the TPM ministry for more than 30 years.

          Why havent you liberated your sibling?

          Its easy to talk the walk… but walking the talk is difficult because you know the impact and thats the reason you dont want to reveal your name to every one.

          What is your sibling is asked to leave?

        8. Dear Richie,
          I suggest you stop all such guess work as that will just lead you to a wild goose chase. But I can exhort you to read the scriptures for yourself and understand it without a TPM Lens.

        9. Dear Admin,

          Its not a guess work but the truth…and let me explore and see what happens.

          Secondly, till date I havent got a TPM Lens… may be I wasnt as worthy as you people to receive it. I have a lens provided to me by birth by my God which I am using to read the scriptures daily. So this purely a guess work from your side.

        10. RG, you irrefutably demonstrated that you have a TPM lens yesterday when you were unable to come up with scriptural support and just repeated a standard answer from TPM pulpit.

        11. Brother RG, your lens provided to you at birth is just as useless as your TPM goggles.

          You need to discard both and be regenerated by the washing of the water and the word.
          True change will be visible shortly and that will reflect in your word-choice and adjectives.

          I hope not to hurt you as I gain nothing. I want to caution you as in brotherhood that none of the New Testament saints engage in rowdyism.
          Stephen in Acts is a good example for us to cross-check.

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        12. RG
          He is backslidden tpm minister who fell directly from Zion. I know him because he had said many of the things said in website earlier to me to entrap me before he left ministry. But I refused to hearken him and be deviated from the truth revealed to saints. He was bright shining star in tpm in those days but devil cast him down to earth. Now he is trying to cast other stars by his tail. This website is his tail. I have seen this tail before.

        13. //..without revealing yourselves….only bastards would do that..//

          Jesus went in disguise to feast – John 7:8-10 because Jews were seeking his life (verse 1)…….His brothers tried to entice him to reveal himself (see verse 3-5). So it seems devil through his brothers was asking Jesus to reveal himself ….

          Heb 13:2 says angels sometimes come in disguise…In Genesis triune God came as men… (Gen 18). Two angels came as men to destroy Sodom …(Gen 19). Angel of the Lord came to fight for Joshua and israel and Joshua asked him are you for us or against us… so Joshua didn’t knew he was angel….(Joshua 5:13-15)

          Moses sent spies in disguise in canan . Joshua sent spies in disguise to Ai…

          All of these instances have various reasons why Godly appointed beings sometimes appear in disguise… there may be various reasons….

          Yes devil also hides in white clothes and appears as angel and his ministers as ministers of righteousness… This case cannot be applied to us as we are not deceiving people by our looks… we are just a voice… you need to pay attention to voice and judge it according to scriptures rather than taking us by our names and accepting all that we say without comparing it with scriptures.. Thousands of times we have asked people to take bible and refute us if we are wrong, unlike TPM who teaches to believers not to ask questions and simply nod their heads to the so called deeper revelations…In this case TPM members get decieved by looking at their white clothes….

          So bro RG do not try to teach us scriptures by saying you are workers of darkness because you don’t reveal your names….. Bible is very clear that even God and Godly appointed beings sometimes need to act in disguise for some reasons…

        14. Dear Nath,

          There’s no need for you to justify yourselves.. I dont care about it…

          The truth is very clear….

          The devil works in deceptive manner and all those work in a similar manner are the children of the devil

        15. Brother Nath, the truth of RG i.e. one of those “deeper truths” are very clear that those who try to question anything in regards to TPM abomination are workers of the devil. Hope you got the point!!

        16. RG I know you dont care about what Scriptures say. You only care defending mindless baseless so called deeper truths.. Keep going..with devilish deceptive tpm..

        17. Brother RG,

          I have no problem with you using a moniker… I do not wish to know you personally, but for the fact that you have been using vulgar language on the site.

          I do not know why the admin has not spammed your abusive comments, perhaps out of respect for your towering personality in Church… or for the fact that you have a sibling in the ministry.

          Anyways, the point I am making is different- We do not make personal attacks.
          We only wish to highlight evil doctrines under the guise of ‘Holy Reproaches’ or ‘Eternal Weight of Glory’ In bringing these to light, names were called out. That is all.

          Are you keen on knowing my identity? If I divulge, will you go ahead and recommend sweeping changes, within the domain of your conscience?

        18. For your information, I am a nobody in the church but I have towering God who is with me.

          The fact that you all are hiding and doing the the excellent work of the devil is open for everyone to see.

          Only the devil works deceitfully and I am sure its written in your bible too……

        19. RG, from where did you get your vocabulary that you used with such zeal yesterday? Did you even apologize to the ADMIN and few others?

          I understand that you are trying to say that we all need to mind our own business. But should we wink at sin, just because sin is everywhere?

          The fear of the Lord teaches us to rebuke these filthy dreamers who defile the flesh, who corrupt their souls like brute beasts, who adopt religion like Cain, who are pastor-chasing prophets like Baalam, and are ambitious like Korah.
          But you are clearly upset and you have durst bring a railing accusation against fromtpm because it questions the TPM system and its eastern mystic powers.
          Should you show reasonable humility to change the atmosphere of blindness, I am sure the admin will be willing to engage you with full identity.
          Are you game?

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        20. Dear Denzel,

          I dont care about TPM System or its easterm mystic powers.

          I know there’s living God and I trust in that living God.

          I dont care who has got what system and what powers. If they have it, good for them but I know its bad for you, God help you……..

          You dont need to wink at SIN and commit SIN but you need to run away from SIN and keep yourselves.

          1 Timothy 6:11-12 – But as for you, O man of God, flee these things. Pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, steadfastness, gentleness. Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called and about which you made the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

          Philippians 4:8 – Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.

        21. Wonderful verses brother RG- Glad to see a real change in the tone and verbatim. Atleast there is a common ground now for a healthy debate.

          Are you ready?

        22. No RG,

          I am not blindly criticizing you. I am only making an observation that you don’t feel shame in outraging the God-given modesty to the Eaves/ feminine gender, by referring to the mammary glands.

          Are you still not ashamed? Forget about being a Christian… am sure the women folk of Adam’s race, and without TPM lens, will be embarrassed at your lack of netiquette.

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  15. Romans 16:17
    Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.

    2 Timothy 2:16
    But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

    1. RG, who wrote the epistle to the Romans? Paul, not TPM pastors. So when you read Romans, read as though Paul is saying that, not as though TPM pastors are saying that.

      So when Paul says “cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned” he is referring to the doctrines and teachings which PAUL HIMSELF taught. Did Paul teach those who take medicine will not be seen at the rapture? NO. Did Paul even mention the word “comsecration”? NO. Did Paul not let people who take medicine from taking part in the Lord table? NO. Did Paul teach fantasies about Zion, NJ, New Heaven and New earth and allot places for people based on denomination? NO. I can keep going on…

      So my answer to you is, it is TPM that causes divisions and teaches doctrines contrary to what he taught (as demonstrated just moments ago by your lack of scriptural support for the point you were making). It is about “churches” like TPM that Paul is asking you to avoid.

      As for the second verse, nothing in this site is profane or “vain babblings”. I’m guessing you added that just because you didn’t get any other verse to post.

  16. Here’s another reference which is quite apt for this web site and the authors of this web site….Who to expose before the time of God

    1 Corinthians 4:5 – Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

    1. Looks like RG is on a hotline with one of the TPM minister or perhaps his worker sibling and pounding verses out of the blue. When we say quoting verses, it meant quoting in reference to the discussions and not otherwise. And, by the way all the verses which you have quoted are apt only for you and your white clad saints.

    2. Brother,
      If you promise not to run away as you did earlier, I can try to engage with you.
      OK. Brother, You are a classic case of Misapplying context.
      When TPM says they will go to Zion and Their Believers will Go to New Jerusalem whereas other Christians May possibly land in New Earth, is not that Passing Judgement before the TIME? (The Bible does not Give anybody any Gate Pass issue rights except for Jesus)
      When TPM Says that they will prepare the Perfect Bride while other cannot, Is not that Judgement before time? (The Bible does not give any such rights to any organization)


      Whereas what we are doing is TESTING the TPM Doctrine (1 Thes 5:21) which is a command in the scripture.
      We are Exposing the Evil works of Darkness (Ephesians 5:11-13) which is a command in the scripture
      We are testing the False Apostles which is commended by Scripture (Rev 2:2)

    3. That’s really funny, RG. Look at the hypocrisy here. It is TPM that passes judgment before time. TPM passes judgement on all the OT saints and say they can only go as far as “New Heaven” but they themselves will go to “Zion” (both fantasies and unbiblical). It is TPM that says people like Stephen who was STONED TO DEATH for their faith hadn’t reached their level of perfection and therefore have JUDGED HIM before time to be allowed only to New heaven. So yes, tell that to you “saints” to not pass judgment before time.

      NOBODY in this site passed judgment on anybody’s eternal destiny. Maybe you should read before coming to wrong conclusions.

    4. Wow RG! Thank you for your exposition.
      The context of word “judge” in 1 Corinthian 4:5 is about supremacy and exaltation done by members of Christian community in Corinth, about who is great Paul or Apollos or Barnabas (Refer I Corn 1:12) just like TPM compares themselves with other churches and tries to establish their supremacy. Paul starts dealing with this issue from 1 Corinthians 1:12 onwards and then he continues it through 3:5 and finally he arrives at 4:5 (see 1 Corn 1:12, 3:5, 3:22, 4:5 it is same theme). The judgement was passed by believers of Corinth comparing true apostles as to who belongs to whom. Therefore Paul says “Do not pass your judgment before time”…. “each man will have praise (as to who did better service) from God.” Thus 1 Corinthians 4:5 is not about discerning between false prophet and true prophet. Otherwise all other places where Paul asks believers to expose rebuke exhort will become contrast to his this statement.

    5. Bravo…. keep fighting your good fight of faith…

      In the last days men who walk after their own lusts and mockers will arise who will cause many to deviate from the faith.
      This page’s admin and all his followers are of such group it seems. Let’s pray that God may save them or give them the fruit of their works at the soonest.!

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      1. Dear Rohith
        Your comments clearly speak the frustration. You don’t have scriptures to prove the contents of the articles. You and majority of TPM bhakts are more in love with the cult organization than the Lord Jesus & the pure scriptures. I personally feel that you need to be saved; therefore, pray to God that He might show mercy to you & the brainwashed people like you.

  17. Dear Denzel,

    Even Jesus when He had to address King Herod, Jesus called him a fox.

    The way you all have been dealing in secret (exactly the way devil works), I dont think there are better words to use than I have used.

    Those who work the works of the devil in secret needs to be addressed in that manner.

    Again you have proven that you are enslaved by the devil… because as per yourself “your lens provided to you at birth is just as useless”. So this lens given to me by God is useless as per your great teachings and theology.

    REPENT and COME BACK FROM THAT FALLEN STATE…….

    1. Dear Brother RG,

      When you say the lens provided by birth, you are referring to the carnal wisdom of your natural state. It is called nature of sin. The serpent beguiled the first couple, and their natural knowledge was corrupted. This is what I was referring to.
      Using a reformed mindset and being armed with the foreknowledge of being born again through grace and faith alone is what I was recommending.
      Thanks for the patient read.

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  18. RG – concerning:

    #1 Corinthians 4:5 – Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.#

    Do you consider that the quite open, yet unscriptural practices and the openly taught, yet false teachings of TPM, (as described to us on this website), and also the open, revealed sodomite sin of a TPM leader, really come under “HIDDEN” things in this scripture you have quoted?

    No, it can’t be so, because ‘these open things’ are there for all to see, and have been discerned through the Holy Spirit by the brethren to be outside the teachings of Christ, which are given to the church in the Word of God.

    A loving God has to waken people up who have been subverted, and seduced away from the simplicity that is in Christ by that old serpent, the Devil. The Devil and his lies are what you should be in opposition to. Not the fellow believers.

    There is a falling away from the truths of scripture, as you have already mentioned in your comments. But this does not mean that you take off the armour of God, and not take a stand against Satan’s wiles.

    Paul wrote, “Do you not judge them that are within [the church]?” 1 Cor 5:12.

    “And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.” 2 Thess 3:14.

    And what do you think when Paul wrote in Titus 3: 10-11: “A man that is an heretick after the first and second admonition reject; Knowing that he that is such is subverted, and sinneth, being condemned of himself”?

    Do you see the reason why we should “Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment”, that this is what God expects of us all?

    1. Hi Prem,

      Welcome back, the Admin and his Chamchas are doing great by the grace of God.

      How is the slave if TPM doing? What business brings you back? Last time you shouted your way out of this site, surprised to see you back?? Are your TPM lords abusing you that you have come back for some truth. Well you are in the right place. Please read the articles and hope that God will have mercy on you and free you from TPM’s bondage and take you into the glorious liberty in Christ.

      Good reading my friend Prem!

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  19. Dear Commenting believers and readers,

    Do you really think abasing fellow christians is doing the good work of our Lord. Im not talking about the post. Im talking about the comments. Christianity is not a religion. It doesnt matter where we go to church. Coz the church is not going to take us to heaven, Only Jesus and His grace can. When you people are talking and fighting about churches, there are some talk ill of the bible and Jesus. Start fighting against that.

    According to you, You are doing a right thing by exposing the lies and false doctrines, and the others who are supporting the exposing. But the others rebuking also are doing a good work according to them. Either way, it doesnt matter. You people are forgetting the one reason. We are christians to follow our Lord Christ and not the churches.

    The Leaders are here only to give us Gods word. Even if they are bad, God will speak to us. Remember, the Lord speak through the old prophet even when he lied. He wasnt a good person nor a prophet. Anyway God spoke through Him. One of the reasons why God loved David was he didnt touch the anointed one even when he had the chance and even when he had a reason to.

    Dont get me wrong. I am neither supporting the TPM nor am I against it. I request you not to lose your grace by a silly reason of fighting amongst ourselves. Please.

    God must be our focus in the church. Take what is acceptable provided it must be according to the bible. Our Yardstick is not what one preacher says or another saint says. It is what the bible says.

    If church doesnt seem right for you, go to another church where you can worship better. coz we need to be in a congregation. Bible says if your hand is a hindrance for you to go to heaven cut it off. Its better to go to heaven in a small church than to be in a big church and go to hell.

    We must strive to go to heaven and to be with our Lord.

    So please keep love (charity) in everything as ” I Corinth 13 ” says.
    God bless.

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    1. @JW
      // The Leaders are here only to give us Gods word. ……//
      Whose leaders ? Secondly it would have been nice if they would have given Gods word. But unfortunately they give their own teachings which is all twisted umbilical and many a times blasphemous. Please go through all the articles.

      //God must be our focus in the church. //
      Absolute spot on! But unfortunately in Tpm, focus of workers is their own high calling and their own glorification. They have left Christ at mount Calvary at first step and have climbed six steps higher into place if their own exaltation.

      // If church doesnt seem right for you go can worship better…. .//
      Why did Paul went to jews/ gentiles to try to convert them.to truth ? According to your advice he should have sat in one building saying praise the Lord ,,, sotharam.. and would have filled with unintelligible tongues to prepare himself for second coming of Jesus. That would have been sufficient! Why did he fight with Pharisees , false teachers and why did he visit city to city ? Why does he say I am jealous for I have espoused you to one husband ? Why did he strive to protect church from false teachers ?

      //So please keep love (charity) in everything as ” I Corinth 13 ” says. //
      Yeah agree ! That is why people here are spending their time energy money , out of charity to bring people to truth. Don’t you know Bible says that that correction is charity ?
      Proverbs 23:13-14
      Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell.

      Thank you for lively advice. Please start reading some articles and let us know whether you agree with them or whether you would like to correct us in charity !!

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        1. Apart from the typical annoyance, why don’t you read your scriptures and respond back with relevant scriptures in context? When it comes to spiritual things, an emotional response like this is just telling on the work done by TPM. God is not into any number game. A single Elijah or Noah or Gideon is more than enough for God’s purpose.

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