First off, let’s define “medicine”.
The Merriam-Webster defines medicine as “a substance or preparation used in treating disease”.
- Paul says to Timothy to “use a little wine FOR the sake of your stomach and your frequent ailments.” (1 Timothy 5:23). Is that not medicine?
- If the answer to the above question is a “NO”, how do you say a wine for stomach ailment is not a medicine but a tablet is?
- Did God give you a list of substances that are considered “medicine” in His eyes?
- If God didn’t give you that list, aren’t you being self-righteous when you categorize certain things as “medicine”?
- I don’t know any TPM believer who doesn’t do a salt water gargle for a sore throat, doesn’t brush their teeth to maintain the health of their gums and teeth, doesn’t drink water treated with chemicals to kill germs etc. Do you?
- Contrast what Hezekiah did (Ointment of figs to treat his boils, a medicine which God told to use) to what Asa did. Both used medicine, one sought the Lord, the other didn’t. So shouldn’t the lesson we must take from Asa’s life be to seek the Lord at all times?
- TPM says “He sought not the Lord, but the physicians” means Asa did not stand for divine healing. Was Paul asking Timothy to do the same as Asa?
- Did Paul and Timothy not have enough faith that God can heal his stomach ailments?
- Our God is Jehovah-Jireh, the Lord who provides. There are hundreds of verses in the bible where God says he will provide our needs. So is seeking employment in contradiction to God’s promises of being our provider?
- God miraculously provided food for Elijah using ravens. He miraculously provided for the widow in 2 Kings 4 with oil. Can I then make a doctrine saying those who work for their living don’t have enough faith that God will provide for their needs?
- TPM bans believers from sitting at the Lord’s Table if they’ve taken medicine when there is no such rule placed on any believer in the New Testament. Isn’t that an unbiblical practice?
- Do you realize that the field of medicine is always evolving? In the NT things like wine and oil were the medicines of the day (In the parable of the Good Samaritan, the wounds were treated with oil and wine. Wine has antiseptic properties)
- In James 5:14, the elders of the church were supposed to pray for the sick. If you read the preceding verses, it reads thus
“Is anyone among you in trouble (kakopatheó)? Let them pray. Is anyone happy? Let them sing songs of praise.” (James 5:13)
Kakopatheó: endure hardship, suffer hardship, suffering.
If you are going through hardship (let’s say financially), do you not do anything other than pray? When you are joyful, do you not to anything other than sing songs of praise?
- James 5:14-16
“Is anyone among you sick? Let them call the elders of the church to pray over them and anoint them with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise them up. If they have sinned, they will be forgiven. Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.”
To borrow a few arguments from Zac Poonen, the verse clearly says when an elder prays in faith, the sick person will become well. Isn’t the obvious reason for a sick person to not be healed after prayer, the lack of faith on the part of the one praying?
- Does James say if one doesn’t get healed, he has to die even when there are alternatives available?
- What scripture can you provide to support the notion that medicine defiles the body?
- Can you give one scripture that puts medicine in a bad light?
- What scripture can you provide to support the idea that the physical bodies of those who take medicines will not be found worthy at Christ’s second coming?
- 1 Peter 2:24, Peter explains the “healing” talked about in Isaiah 53:5 was our spiritual healing. Matthew explains in Matthew 8:17 that Isaiah 53:4 was fulfilled before Jesus died on the cross. So can you give any passage from scripture that says Christ died on the cross for our physical sickness?
- Matthew 9:12 “When Jesus heard this, he said, ‘Healthy people don’t need a doctor–sick people do’”. Wasn’t it a given that the sick needs a doctor? (Yes, Jesus is talking about sinners needing a spiritual healing. The fact of the matter is Jesus using a GOOD real world example to make his point)