Doing away with the Clergy-Laity Divide

The religious matrix of clergyman has been the gatekeeper to keeping the truth hidden from us. The keys of Peter’s revelation that Jesus is the Son of God echo’s in the heart of those who have this light in them. We are to walk in the light as He is in the light. Each member of the body of Christ are partakers of his divine nature. The light of Christ is restoring us to himself.

In the book of Samuel, the people cried out for a king. They rejected God and instead wanted a human to lead them. Samuel warned them that if they got a king, the king would take ten percent of their wealth.
This is happening in many institutional churches today. People have set their pastors above Christ. They are paying men to mediate or interpret scripture for them, and the pastors are taking ten percent of their wealth, in the form of a “tithe”
The Biblical NEW COVENANT model for the church is one in which ALL believers are equal. The early church shared everything such that NO ONE had any needs. Today, we see church funds being funneled to the “top” of an unbiblical hierarchical system.
Christ is to be our sole mediator and teacher. We are meant to help one another along, but Christ is meant to the Head of His Church. Instead, many people have elevated a man to take the place that should be reserved for Christ, alone.
In the same way that kings have the rule, many pastors today are ruling their congregations with an iron rod. They are told to remain docile and unquestioning. They are remaining infants in Christ and not reaching spiritual maturity because their leaders want them to stay put. Jesus did sit under a religious leader to hear a sermon every week. He went out and He shared the Good News, Himself. The priesthood of all believers says that we are each equipped to do the work of Christ.

The Below Videos should serve as an eye-opener for people who think truth can also be said by people other than TPM Clergy.


29 Comments on “Doing away with the Clergy-Laity Divide”

  1. Interesting to see how the captioned “Removing the mask” falls back on the same team where all are trying to unmask the masked team. Hahaha.




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    1. Buddy, you do not even realize that we are not at all afraid of bringing out the false doctrines and practices of TPM in the Open. We have thoroughly exposed the Doctrinal issues of TPM and TPM is just caught naked.
      We have got nothing to hide. BUT TPM is shit scared that they could not even mention our names while bringing out a FATWA against our site. Ayatollah Khomeini had more guts than your fake Chief Pastor who could not even sign on the document.




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  2. I’m sure these guys will also start believing very soon that Jesus was like any other avatar but was married in India, had kids, etc ad many claim and try to bring the nakedness of bible.

    One thing is sure, TPM is a school of thought. Indeed there are many schools and TPM is one amongst them with high teaching.

    One studying in Cambridge and you studying in kerala government school will make some difference. I’m not judging here but showcasing the difference. Same is with all churches.




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    1. Haha..TPM Is a school of thought. You said that Right.
      Unfortunately, this school of thought has all elements borrowed from Catholicism and Buddhism and Jainism But Nothing From Christ and his Apostles.
      Of course they do masquerade as Apostles.
      2 Corinthians 11:13 For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ.




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    2. //Indeed there are many schools and TPM is one amongst them with high teaching.//

      Is the teachings of TPM higher than the teachings of the 1st century church?




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  3. Study some philosophies. All are borrowed from here and there. Jesus too quoted the Jews from their own books. Many sages too quotes from their scriptures and point to one God.

    Every one has their own school of thought. If you have a family that you oversea, you will build your own school of thought.




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    1. Wow..You telling this to me is not surprising…PHILOSOPHIES…Yes TPM Doctrine is that which you have intended. What more proof do we need to attest that you are deceived?

      Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.




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      1. These emotional outbursting of yours doesn’t spill over me. I’m quite neutral person. Don’t know from where you came to know that “you have intended”. Seems to be like I’m speaking to some stiffnecked teenager. Anyways, that doesn’t bother me as long as I have few hours to respond from airport.

        I said you to read philosophy where it speaks of all different world religion and how it states there that all are borrowed from here and there. You claim your base that this church is like RC and that temple is like Vushnu, etc. I’m not biased on these vain things.

        Indeed TPM is a school of thought just like you build your school of thought to run your family (if you loved it genuinely). Disciplines are must for any organisation. Have toy seen anything haywire? Even the land of Sodom and Gommorah was disciplined in sinning. You may be disciplined to create and hack an institution. Likemanner, TPM as a church is an institution teaching and admonishing.

        I hear lot of people across the globe carefully mending their life by walking with God and with the fellowship of TPM ministers. Few and to be very precise 1% including you and your team is against which is fine. Even Jesus had to undergo such scenario.

        Anyways, I’m not justifying anything here. If wrong is there, the institution will correct it. If God has sent you as a mouth piece or a WWW person to teach, God will work. Your (self) work to change is vain.




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        1. Son, you are trying to cover up your dirt but in reality spreading it more . LOL

          You said the following


          Indeed TPM is a school of thought just like you build your school of thought to run your family (if you loved it genuinely). Disciplines are must for any organisation. Have toy seen anything haywire? Even the land of Sodom and Gommorah was disciplined in sinning. You may be disciplined to create and hack an institution. Likemanner, TPM as a church is an institution teaching and admonishing.


          Our Reply


          So friend, when you could not defend the PHILOSOPHY Part, you had to jump to Discipline.

          So what is this TPM Discipline? Can these be substantiated based on the Bible? Please do substantiate it.
          1. People should not take photos of Pastors because they are the Holiest Folks and If someone sees them, they will be Killed.
          2. Wear White dress when you come to the Faith Home or else you will not be caught up in the coming of the Lord.
          3. Remove Whatsapp groups started in the name of TPM or else disciplinary actions will be taken.
          4. Pay money and cover up murders done by TPM Ministers
          5. TPM Believers are not supposed to talk about sexual adventures of TPM Pastors with the Sisters/Mothers.
          6. If TPM Pastor’s sexual adventures become public, the said pastor will be transferred to far off place so that he can continue to be a SAINT in the new place and continue his old habits with the new sisters
          7. If the TPM believer takes treatment because the TPM Pastor is not able to heal the believer, the believer gets excommunicated.
          8….Many more things like that can be seen in this site..Please browse and you will find it.





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      1. A blind will lead the blind. Your boss seems blind in understanding and so does his members. Happy rocking and crackling stars. ?




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    2. So is there objective truth? Or is truth subjective? You sound as though there are many paths to salvation and you happen to be on a “TPM path” to salvation.




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      1. ROLF…..

        You another band wagon of the 3 blind mice.
        You guys take decision as if I’m from TPM or Christian. As far as I have learnt, Jesus is said to be the path to heaven. This itself is a great truth. Humane mind will not understand these. In part you will know here. Truth can be objective only. Do you doubt it? If so, sad to see you amongst the blind.

        Best of luck guys.




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        1. You said — “Study some philosophies. All are borrowed from here and there. Jesus too quoted the Jews from their own books. Many sages too quotes from their scriptures and point to one God.Every one has their own school of thought.”

          I do believe truth is objective. But from your post I gather TPM has a different “School of thought” from the rest of Christianity.

          For a NT Christian there must be only one “school of thought” that must be relevant and that is the scriptural one.




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  4. Every single orgnisation draws inspiration from multiple places.

    The problem with this site is that it merely dictates what should be.
    There is no real debate among equals here.

    On the one hand you have the owner of this site and his group who seem to have mastery over scripture (or access to a fantastic research system that allows them to find and quote verses at will).

    On the other hand are a bunch of poor souls like me, who do not have such mastery of scripture, but merely look at it from a logical point of view.

    From what I understand, logic and reason have no place.
    The admin and his team would have us believe that everything should be taken literally.
    If so, then we should perhaps discard portions of the old testament which support slavery and cruel punishment.

    Going by their logic, cigarette smoking and alcohol consumption are all ok, because there is no specific word that says “Do not smoke” or “Do not drink”.
    Through out the Bible, there is reference to consumption of wine.

    What I fail to understand is why it is not understood that the days of the old and new testaments were different times and eras in the history of mankind.

    If there is to be no clergy or organised leadership, then I cannot understand what sort of structure is being proposed.

    I understand that Christ is the head of the church.
    Nobody disputes this.

    Surely, seeking the counsel of spiritual men and women cannot be a bad thing.

    If some individuals elevate their ministers to a position of respect and authority, then it is for them to answer for it.

    With my limited knowledge and ability, I came across two verses in Romans that could shed light on my position:
    Romans chapter 2:
    Verse 10 says “But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:”
    And verse 11 says “For there is no respect of persons with God.”

    Are we wrong to respect others for their good works, if that is what St Paul says?
    (By the way, I hope I am not sinning by giving the apostle Paul the title of “saint”)

    Interestingly, the very first verse of Romans 2 says “Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.”

    Verse 2 says “But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.”

    My knowledge of the English in the King James version is limited, but from what I understand that all men, good or bad, will be judged by God and he alone has the right to do so.

    Interestingly, since the admin and his team follow the KJV, I would like to point out some historical “facts” about it:
    – The KJV was primarily ordered by King James in order to counter the effects of a previous version. So, it seemed as much a political move as a spiritual or religious one.
    – The KJV was translated by 17th century scholars from the original Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic texts. So, it has been done not just with their knowledge of these languages, but perhaps also influenced by their political masters’ ideology.
    – Not to be negative, but history reports King James to have been interested in witchcraft and considered that it should be part of theology.
    – He was also considered to be what the word of God calls “immoral” and “abomination”. You can guess this.

    Now, are we to judge the KJV because of the potential partisanship of the authors or the lifestyle of the man that ordered it to be compiled.

    I don’t think so.

    God works in mysterious ways and he may use unconventional means and unconventional people to do it.

    That is not for us to judge, as Romans 2:1-2 tells us.

    Doctrines are interpretations and by that very same token, all the content on this site is based on an interpretation.
    The interpretation may be literal or figurative, but it is nothing but an interpretation.

    The admin and his friends merely disagree with the doctrine, as taught by TPM.

    However, it would be disingenuous to paint all the thousands of TPM workers (past and present) and the hundreds of thousands of believers (past and present) as ignorant, uninformed and spineless.

    I find it hard to believe that in the 90 odd years of it’s existence, only a handful of people have been able to “expose” the “truth” behind TPM.

    In any case, this is not going to go anywhere.

    We’ll just satisfy ourselves that we’re standing for and arguing for our position.

    Nothing is going to change until and unless God Almighty wants it to and makes it so.

    What is left of interest is to understand how the admin proposes to “fix” TPM.
    What structure, if any, does he propose?
    What should the doctrine be and how should it be taught?

    That would be an interesting argument/debate.

    This is just a case of he-said-she-said back and forth.




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    1. Vik, I’d like to address one point in your comment.

      //I find it hard to believe that in the 90 odd years of it’s existence, only a handful of people have been able to “expose” the “truth” behind TPM.//

      The Roman Catholic Church traces its history to the 1st century. They evolved from a church that Paul wrote the “Epistle to the Romans” to a church filled with false doctrines. Do you know when the reformation took place? THE 16TH CENTURY. That’s more than 1500 years since its alleged inception. In comparison, the size of TPM is miniscule compared to the Roman Catholic Church. It took ONE MAN out of the millions to point out the truth. Of course there were other people before him like Wycliffe and the Waldensians. The point being those who opposed the doctrinal errors were not even 0.1% of the total followers of the Roman Church. So it does not surprise me even a little that those who see false doctrines in TPM are such a minority. I don’t say this as something to boast about.

      Now, why is it such a minority? Don’t every TPM believer have a presupposition that God has given special revelations to TPM ministers? (Similar to the millions who believed for hundreds of years that God speaks through the Roman bishop and gives him special revelation). Now if THAT is what our belief system is rooted in (the belief that God has revealed “deep truths” to TPM ministers), it is not shocking to see the majority not question any of the doctrines. Coz how will they? To question something one needs to have a HIGHER AUTHORITY to compare those teachings to. In TPM the highest authority (after God) is the pastors. There is nothing in the TPM system one can use to compare the teachings heard in TPM. Those of us who do point out the false teachings, will confess that God is the highest authority and after God, scripture is the highest authority since they are the very words of God. So when we compare everything we hear to the word of God, we do find these TPM specific doctrines to be false. It’s not a matter of “interpretation” here. Like I said in another comment, the epistles and the gospels were written with the intention that lay people could easily understand them.




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    2. For the first time, I feel you’ve made a point by saying this:
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      That would be an interesting argument/debate.
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      But argue with whom? Who would take the responsibility of thinking about the proposed changes, forget about implementing them? Because the changes we’d propose would have ramifications across the world (tpm ministry) and would not be easy to implement. Please share your views.

      Regarding KJV, you’ve somehow got us wrong. Please go through the previous posts once again and tell us one place where we have favored the KJV? The political agenda that you’ve pointed out has already been discussed before. Sorry, we’re not quite into it.




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      1. As far as i think, nobody from TPM leadership is going to dignify any of this with a formal response.

        So, in effect, you are barking up a tree.
        (Please note that this is a figure of speech. I’m not calling you dogs.)

        As for the KJV, the basic premise of this whole site is to take the words of Jesus Christ literally.
        You also propose that the word of God ends with the book of Revelations.

        So, in the debate, I am saying that
        (a) if the word of God ends with Revelation and the KJV is your point of reference, then before arguing the word as you know it, you must establish the credentials of the KJV. Who compiled it? Why did they do it? How did they do it?
        If the writer of book has a political agenda, then it should be highlighted as a caveat before discussing the book.
        Only then can we truly give the book it’s due weightage.
        As an example, since most of you seem to be in or from India, if a retired politician from one party wrote a book on a person from another party, it would be treated with some suspicion and everything he says in the book will be weighed on a political scale.
        However, if the same book was written by an academic person far removed from the world of politics, it would be deemed as a much more credible piece of scholarly work.

        So, I believe that the KJV was divinely inspired, despite the political and moral baggage of the person whose name is attached to it.

        In the same way, I believe that certain Christian movements are divinely inspired.

        (b) if we are to take everything in the Bible literally, as has been suggested here, then it is only fair that you take what everybody says literally as well.
        The beauty of human speech, writing and language is that on one hand it can be quite literally and means exactly what is said/written and on the other hand it can be quite nuanced and needs interpretation.

        In every civilized debate, the credentials of the debaters and the subject must be established.

        What you all seem to be losing track of is that, the Creator – the ultimate caretaker of this world, can choose anyone and everyone he wishes to propagate his message.

        Interestingly, you are not the only detractors of TPM.

        If you step outside, you will find plenty of people willing to give you a public platform and protection to voice your views.

        So, in that sense TPM is the 0.1% minority that you refer to.




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        1. Vik, you won’t hear any of us say the KJV is divinely inspired. The KJV is just ONE of the translations in ONE of the languages of this world. God isn’t English. The original writings of the NT were in GREEK, so we claim God inspired the original writers. The KJV is by no means a bad translation. But since most of the manuscripts were discovered after the KJV was translated, you’ll get a more accurate reading in later translations (Like the NASB and the ESV). The KJVO group are a cult that I want nothing to do with.
          I don’t understand where you get the idea that we take everything literally. We certainly don’t believe Christ was a literal vine or a literal door when He said He was the vine and the door.

          a) No, the KJV is NOT the point of reference when we say divine revelation ended with the book of Revelation. I don’t get where you got that idea from. What we say is that those TEACHING must learn greek and hebrew (not the KJV) to better understand the original texts.

          b) NO ONE suggested you take everything literally.

          //What you all seem to be losing track of is that, the Creator – the ultimate caretaker of this world, can choose anyone and everyone he wishes to propagate his message.//

          Of course, and he did that. IN THE 1ST CENTURY. And anyone he chooses today will be chosen to propagate the SAME MESSAGE he gave the early apostles in the 1st century. So if you have a different message, you didn’t get it from God. That’s the basic litmus test.

          //If you step outside, you will find plenty of people willing to give you a public platform and protection to voice your views.
          So, in that sense TPM is the 0.1% minority that you refer to.//

          I’m sorry, but that doesn’t make any sense. Nobody would give a platform to the Jehovah’s Witness, The Mormons or the Westboro Baptists in the Christian world either. Does that make them right? TPM is the minority in the way that JW, Mormons are the minority. Not because they are right. I said the dissidents of RCC were a minority not because they just HAPPEN TO BE IN THE MINORITY, but because their cry was to go back to SCRIPTURE as the authority. That is what made the minority right.




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    3. Brother Vik
      You are digressing from the topic of the Article. Nevertheless, I will make an effort to answer you for each points.
      You Mentioned the following


      From what I understand, logic and reason have no place.
      The admin and his team would have us believe that everything should be taken literally.
      If so, then we should perhaps discard portions of the old testament which support slavery and cruel punishment.

      Going by their logic, cigarette smoking and alcohol consumption are all ok, because there is no specific word that says “Do not smoke” or “Do not drink”.
      Through out the Bible, there is reference to consumption of wine.


      Our Reply


      You need to know that there is no specific instructions against smoking and drinking though you will get instructions against being drunk. Do you know why I do not smoke or get intoxicated by such things? NOT BECAUSE OF TPM DICTATES. It’s because my body is the Temple of the Holy Ghost and I need to keep it pure from those things. Do you know eating unhygenic food that could effect the body adversely is also wrong according to the same principle.
      Romans 12:1 Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God–this is your true and proper worship.


      You Mentioned the following


      I understand that Christ is the head of the church.
      Nobody disputes this.


      Our Reply


      Brother, it’s easy to tell words…But hard to implement. Jesus says the following
      If ye love me, keep my commandments. John 14:15
      Do the TPM Ministers keep his commandments?
      There are so many of Jesus Commandments that is thrown under the bus and you tell no body disputes?
      Calling Jesus Lord, Lord…is meaningless unless you do the will of the father.
      Luke 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not do what I say?”
      Matthew 7:21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
      TPM has broken so many of the Lords Commandments..It does not even fit the basic structure of a Christian Ekklesia.


      You Mentioned the Following


      Surely, seeking the counsel of spiritual men and women cannot be a bad thing.

      If some individuals elevate their ministers to a position of respect and authority, then it is for them to answer for it.

      With my limited knowledge and ability, I came across two verses in Romans that could shed light on my position:
      Romans chapter 2:
      Verse 10 says “But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:”
      And verse 11 says “For there is no respect of persons with God.”

      Are we wrong to respect others for their good works, if that is what St Paul says?
      (By the way, I hope I am not sinning by giving the apostle Paul the title of “saint”)

      Interestingly, the very first verse of Romans 2 says “Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.”

      Verse 2 says “But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.”


      Our Reply


      Nobody is saying anything about Respect here. But I should point out…Please do not learn respect from TPM Ministers. They start out with dishonoring their parents because of which most of them die prematurely. But have you also noted the condescending tone of TPM Ministers when they refer to other ministers and even they do not have the courtesy of talking with them. I request you not to get started on that as TPM ministers will score an “F”

      Respect People, but do not start worshiping them. TPM Ministers are not worth worshiping. Question them for wrong doctrines and practices. Respecting them as a BROTHER/SISTER is what needs to be done. Nothing More- Nothing less. PERIOD.





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    4. Bro Vik Gant,
      You said you have got limited knowledge of scripture. I don’t think it is the fault of admin. What he/she has to do with your biblical in-capabilities. Take the bible, spend some time in prayers, remove the TPM mask, meditate the word for some time, then I can assure you, you can be better than this admin. I think admin is doing a fabulous work. He/she has good knowledge of scripture and at the same has good experience of TPM’s unbiblical doctrines. He/she presents everything perfectly. He/she asks many questions, no one from TPM had the audacity to venture into answering those querries. Why? Either all his/her claims are right or anyone in TPM has the temerity to counter him. I think it is meek surrender in a different way.
      One thing I would like to mention that, even though I am not a TPM die hard I know many many people left this organisation during the last 50 years purely on doctrinal and moral issues. Sarah Navaroji, Daniel, Conductor Johny etc are a few.
      ADMIN kudos to you. You have the courage and sincerity even to moderate and publish even the bad and filthy comments against you and your team (if something like that is available). Great work, continue to do it. May GOD bless you in all your endeavours. Amen.




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  5. Everybody has limited knowledge in this earth. Including YOU, but if you profess you are WISE, be thou as your carnal desires. In part you will know here and the full will be revealed soon when you leave this mortal body. You group seems like CARVAKA to me. If you don’t know its meaning, find out as you profess to be wise. Sad agnostic group.




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    1. Friend, We are not professing to be wise. If you see the about us Page, we have clearly said that we are willing to correct if adequate scripture references are provided for your stand. But try Correcting the TPM Preachers and do tell me what is your experience.




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  7. You are not only responsible for what you say, but also for what you do not say.
    Martin Luther

    A dog barks when his master is attacked. I would be a coward if I saw that God’s truth is attacked and yet would remain silent.

    John Calvin

    God Bless you




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